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Rheta Shan replied on February 24, 2009 23:19 to the question "Better delicious integration" in Feedly:

Ed, that‘s great news ! I’ll look forward to the next iteration of Feedly Delicious integration.

Rheta Shan replied on February 24, 2009 23:06 to the question "Twittre, Delicious sign in not working from myVidoop page" in Vidoop:

I should have added that this is observed behaviour both on Safari 3.2 / Mac and FF 3 / Mac (above item is mine, sorry for the « Twittre » typo — I’d have corrected it if myVidoop had let me claim it on getsatisfaction).

Rheta Shan replied on February 24, 2009 22:00 to the question "Better delicious integration" in Feedly:

Ed, ta for the answer. Actually, I have also been thinking about the whole issue of Delicious integration into Feedly since I started this, too, and have been wondering since : Why is the link to bookmark on Delicious actually dependent on the presence of the plugin and the login state of the user ? I presume the original idea was to take the presence of the plugin as cue the user is actually using Delicious, but as far as I can see, this is a) a fallacy, b) inconsistent with Feedly’s interface and c) not necessary to work.

1. A fallacy because not all Delicious users use the plugin, even if they use Firefox. On the Mac, for instance, there is an excellent little standalone tool called Pukka, which does everything the plugin does, but independently of browsers and with far superior OS integration (Delicious bookmarks are searchable in Spotlight, OS X spellchecking works in the text fields, and more). I, like many OS X users, do rely on Pukka — I would never have installed the Firefox plugin had I not been given the hint this would unlock better Delicious integration in Feedly. Other users might prefer the web interface — as you noted, its add dialogue is in fact vastly superior to the plugin’s.


2. Inconsistent with Feedly’s interface because no comparable function does this. Tweet, Facebook and Calais commands are always present. There is no dependency on some plugin, setting, or login state. They are simply options offered to the user, who is free to ignore them. The only one Feedly goes out of its way to hide is Delicious. Even from users who actually use Delicious, if they are so unlucky not to use its Firefox plugin too (see above). Which, when you take a moment to think about it, does not make much sense, however well intentioned the original design was.


3. Not necessary to work finally, because Delicious works flawlessly without the plugin, even without any additional software ; in fact, Delicious’ own bookmarklet triggers exactly the dialogue depicted in my previous screenshot (it seems all the plugin does in simple mode is call the bookmarklet). I included the bookmarklet code in full below, but it all boils down to calling 'http://delicious.com/save?=url=encoded_page_url&title=encoded_page_title'

Bookmarklet code (by Delicious) :

javascript:(function(){f='http://delicious.com/save?url='+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href)+'&title='+encodeURIComponent(document.title)+'&v=5&';a=function(){if(!window.open(f+'noui=1&jump=doclose','deliciousuiv5','location=yes,links=no,scrollbars=no,toolbar=no,width=550,height=550'))location.href=f+'jump=yes'};if(/Firefox/.test(navigator.userAgent)){setTimeout(a,0)}else{a()}})()


So, when all this is considered, why not redesign Feedly’s delicious interaction to address those issues ? All it would take would be to make « bookmark with delicious » a first class citizen (read : permanent fixture) of the action link list. By default, it would call the save URL like the bookmarklet does (which also takes care of the login issue) ; if the user has installed the plugin, let it call the plugin instead (reusing the current code). I think this would improve a small, but significant chunk of user experience.

Rheta Shan replied on February 23, 2009 22:11 to the question "Better delicious integration" in Feedly:

Glad to help :). I got curious myself and tried the bookmarklet provided by Delicious. Guess what : it shows the same dialogue as the plugin does in simple mode. It seems the plugin uses Delicious’ web dialogue when in simple mode, and some kind of built-in dialogue when not.

Comparing, I must say I find the web dialogue, the one you rightly called « fancy », superior (as I found the revamped web interface of Delicious vastly superior to the horrible sidebar the plugin provides in full mode)

Rheta Shan replied on February 23, 2009 21:55 to the question "Better delicious integration" in Feedly:

Hello Ed,

ta for pointing out that the link would only appear if I am logged in. I was logged out, as you rightly guessed. However, the reason I didn’t notice this is an inconsistency : Feedly will still display the Delicious dialogue on a « d » press when the user is logged out, but only displays a link action if the user is logged in.

As to the dialogue, my plugin is the official one, current (2.1.018). When I use the « Bookmark This Link with Delicious » item, I get the following dialogue :


When I use the Feedly action link, the dialogue looks like yours :


Could this have to do with the fact I am using the plugin in simple mode (that is, without using a local cache replacing Firefox’s bookmark functions — just the bookmarking menus) ?

(oh, and by the way, Yahoo! rebranded del.icio.us delicious quite a while ago :))

Rheta Shan replied on February 23, 2009 13:36 to the question "Better delicious integration" in Feedly:

Hello Ed, I am using patch 1.2.183 (build 2391 — well, it actually says 1.2.1.2.183 in the footer, but I suppose that is a glitch) and I am sorry to report neither of the issues have been addressed :

1. Delicious is still only accessible by keyboard shortcut and does not appear on the list of actionable links.


2. The dialogue that pops up when pressing the « d » shortcut is still the old, bare bones one, not the one used by the Delicious plugin.

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Rheta Shan replied on February 22, 2009 13:49 to the question "Ability to opt-out of flickr, youtube intergration per category" in Feedly:

Great news !

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Rheta Shan replied on February 22, 2009 13:48 to the question "Better delicious integration" in Feedly:

Great !

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Rheta Shan replied on February 22, 2009 02:18 to the question "Ability to opt-out of flickr, youtube intergration per category" in Feedly:

Ed, that sounds wonderful :). Ta so much in advance, and bisous.

Rheta Shan replied on February 22, 2009 01:56 to the question "Ability to opt-out of flickr, youtube intergration per category" in Feedly:

Hi Edwin,

ta for the quick reply ! I didn’t notice that the Flickr PG level settings also allows to turn off the Flickr module entirely. Although not obvious interface wise, it answer half my query very nicely. :) Now how do I get rid of the YouTube module, whose results are even less relevant than the Flickr ones ? Is that possible too ?

Just to give you an idea how annoying it is right now : one of my categories is « mode » (« fashion » in French) . What I get is mostly Depeche Mode videos :(.

rhetashan asked a question in Feedly on February 22, 2009 01:43:

Better delicious integration

Delicious integration is a wonderful feature of Feedly, one of many who sold me on it. However, it suffers from two major interface inconsistencies.

1. Despite relying on the Delicious plugin to work, it does not use the same dialogue as the plugin does to add a bookmark to Delicious. While the plugin uses the web interface, which has tag suggestions and more, Feedly use some kind of very basic dialogue. This is annoying as there is neither an obvious reason, nor anything but disadvantages to this inconsistency.


2. Why is bookmark with Delicious not a clickable action item on expanded feed items ? It’s the only one that is only available through a keyboard shortcut. If you browse with the mouse, this breaks workflow, plus there is absolutely no hint in the interface Delicious is available (this is a regression by the way : there was a time Delicious was available among the clickable action items).

Feedly is a wonderful extension, but this kind of rough edges make it less than it could be.

rhetashan replied on February 22, 2009 01:32 to the question "Ability to opt-out of flickr, youtube intergration per category" in Feedly:

I’d appreciate the option to disable integration for top level categories too — I have very general categories (with French names, to complicate things) like « inspiration », « dévelopments », « amitiés », and the returned results are entirely irrelevant to the category contents. I won’t even mention the BDSM category, which delivers porn.

Unless you develop a real, complex, multi-lingual AI for this, let users disable the integration, please ! The irrelevant materials in the sidebar are hugely distracting and reduce the usefulness of the interface of your wonderful, otherwise so smart extension by an order of magnitude.

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rhetashan asked a question in PostRank on February 18, 2009 17:50:

Migrate PostRank with blog

I have migrated my blog from wordpress.com (rhetasworld.wordpress.com) to self hosted (rhetashan.name), redirecting the old wordpress.com URL to the new one. Now the old PostRank feed (for rhetasworld.wordpress.com) picks up changes on rhetashan.name as duplicate entries, while the new one (rhetashan.name) ignores all references to the old URL. Is there any way to migrate the PostRank feed as I migrated the blog ? Right now, both feeds are useless despite pointing to the same content.