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A comment on the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

QUOTING...However, I'd argue there's fewer users who are interested in "Let me send messages to everyone that's at this place I'm at" and more who are into "Let me tell my friends but not my co-workers what I'm up to."

However, I'd argue there's fewer users who are interested in "Let me send messages to everyone that's at this place I'm at" and more who are into "Let me tell my friends but not my co-workers what I'm up to." – GS, on September 26, 2008 22:19

A comment on the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

Perhaps if they're really buying Summize, they'll finally get behind the concept of hashtags. They are easy to use and don't require creating anything new. Summize + hashtags takes care of the scenario you describe here. (However, I think that's very separate from the concept of groups. Twitter would be smart to hop on that train; especially with FriendFeed and their "rooms.") – quepol, on July 09, 2008 22:42

Coby replied on June 19, 2008 18:17 to the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

I would like to understand how to use this better, but I am not happy with the "How it Works" portion. I want to invite people, then be able to address them directly. Once I have addressed them directly, will anyone else of my invites be able to see the message I have sent to 1 person? So confused!!!!!!!!!!! And How do I do a group send out? is this possible yet? – Coby

Todd Jones replied on June 12, 2008 03:23 to the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

when i think about groups for twitter, i think about sending an update as a kind of direct message to everyone in the group. to make sure they dont miss it.

judge mental replied on June 11, 2008 23:47 to the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

i mainly just want to be able to let my close circle of friends where i am, what i'm up to. i don't want an acquaintance or a frenemy or whatever knowing what's up and inviting themselves along.

Noah David Simon @TheAnalysis replied on June 11, 2008 10:47 to the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

Ariel works for Pounce? now I get what is going on.. ... yeah she blocked me on my first day ever using twitter. she isn't nice. I could see why a stalker would want a piece of her. Motive with a capital "M"... she is probably telling the truth. I was angered enough by her behavior to spiral out of control. I think it is time we start blaming the victim... just a bit. come on people. bring out the inner "Nelson" is all of us and go "HA HA"

A comment on the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

create a new twitter account for your inner circle and mark the updates as protected. sign up that account with http://grouptweet.com/ . you control who sees the updates (who is a member). – damon, on June 10, 2008 18:33

A comment on the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

For me, it's just a privacy thing. I'd like to let my closest friends know (geographically) where I am, without letting the whole world know where I am. So, I guess, a semi-private communication service; I could do it with multiple recipient SMS outside of Twitter, but I like and am now regularly using the twitter interface (and twitterberry) so it would be convenient to be able to tweet my inner circle in this way. – theclimbergirl, on June 10, 2008 18:10

Cameron Walters replied on June 10, 2008 17:58 to the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

Doesn't that somewhat defeat the purpose of having a public twitter stream? I'm trying to figure out if what people want in the groups feature is a way to not SMS-spam their "further" followers or actually some form of semi-private communications service.

Considering that Twitter sees itself as a "follow-based" or "recipient-based" service when each person chooses how much of the firehose they'd like pointed in their direction, my first conjecture about spamminess seems moot.

theclimbergirl replied on June 10, 2008 15:45 to the question "When is Twitter going to get groups?" in Twitter:

I really just would like to be able to identify an "inner circle" of real-life friends/family that I can send tweets to that don't go out to my whole follower list. E.g. if I want to tweet my "inner circle" that I'm doing dinner somewhere but don't want to tell my whole follower list.

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

Carter: I am confused as to how your Web site relates to this conversation. Is there something I am missing? – Eric Suesz, on June 05, 2008 21:10

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

HARASSMENT she is saying I can't read and probably secretly thinking the typical European comment "Stupid American." Thats basically racism! BAN! Oh and did I mention I started a website? www.whatisitmadeof.com BOO-YAH! – Carter, on June 05, 2008 15:47

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

Well then, I stand corrected. Biz lied about his business practices and Twitter will be flooded with people calling each other vulgar names and ads for penis enlargement. Guess it's time to close my account now before that happens. Everyone move to Pownce. They block spammers and stalkers better than Twitter.

Sorry to be so sarcastic about this, but I still don't see the major issue here. If Biz lied and didn't follow his own companies' ToS, then shame on him. But all of this for one person? C'mon. And I don't care that she disclosed the fact that she works for Pownce AND that all of this happened BEFORE she worked at Pownce, that's now a factor hanging in the balance.

Seriously, I hope Twitter does respond better, but it sounds like no matter what Twitter/Biz does here, it will never be good enough for the users. Meanwhile, the true slippery slope that will happen will be censored comments from every person who was stalked, offended, called a "cunt", etc etc... Twitter will be reacting more to answering to complainers than they will fixing their network. It will be down more than up.... wait a minute... if they are down, people can't send threatening or vulgar tweets to others. Problem solved. Move to Pownce. – martymankins, on June 04, 2008 20:50

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

People who actually *read* what this is about don't see conflict of interest because this started long before Ariel was an employee of Pownce. – Marjolein Katsma, on June 04, 2008 18:09

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

Marty, the first account was apparently closed before they even could do something - we'll have to accept that statement because we can't verify it. The second account (confession) they said was closed before they could check it -- which was either just blatantly "saying something" without /actually/ looking if they could check, or simply a blatant lie, because it was up there with very obvious "libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable" content that many of us have seen long after Biz stated the account was closed and they could not check it. It was not /actually/ removed until I complained about that both here and on the Twitter blog. I'm sorry, but such a blatant lie, or simple neglect to even check whether such content is still on their server for all to see (and archive on other websites!), is not something that fits in my definition of "responding professionally". THAT behavior is the slippery slope that will make Twitter a spammers' haven and a free-for-all platform to spew objectionable (etc.) content -- unless such behavior is amended soon, and visibly, very clearly. – Marjolein Katsma, on June 04, 2008 18:06

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

Marjolein, if Twitter had done absolutely nothing, then I could see your point. But since they responded professionally (just not to Ariel's satisfaction), your ending statement is simply a slippery slope. – martymankins, on June 04, 2008 15:07

Carter replied on June 03, 2008 23:35 to the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

I see conflict of interest, Ariel works at pownce which is basically a twitter xerox. Boo-hiss. I mean, this is as well timed as campaign slam downs. I work at a competitor, I talk about this with colleagues, I elbow drop twitter and make my company more well known.

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

They do, however qualify as "libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable" - all of those, in fact - quote from the TOS. (Yes, and I have read the part that says "We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and accounts containing...").
The fact that the TOS is already weak on "Spam" (they apparently haven't realised there are many other types of spam than email spam - and that capitalization is hilarious) and their "sole discretion" in this case is to do nothing at all, is sending a powerful message that anything goes at Twitter. Keep it up, and Twitter will become a spammers' haven and a free-for-all platform to spew "unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable" content. Keep that up for a little more and there won't be any scaling problems left. – Marjolein Katsma, on June 03, 2008 05:15

michaelcrook replied on June 02, 2008 22:01 to the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

I have to side with Twitter on this. Ariel is not being stalked or threatened. This is nothing more than a thin-skinned little girl who can't handle a little name-calling. Although the names are crude and rude, they do not qualify as cyberbullying or harassment.

Twitter would have been well within its right to tell her to take a flying leap, but they humored her, and that speaks well for them.

http://www.michaelcrook.net/2008/06/0...

A comment on the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:

Point taken. I think the line between "harassment" and someone being a jerk is blurred here, which is why this is such a contentious issue. – Bonsmots, on June 01, 2008 19:44