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Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 18:03 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 18:00 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Hey crudsy, yeah, I'd say you're looking good for the 20k band. It's worth continuing to increase your worth between now and quarter end for a number of reasons. 1) it'll increase your lead on the All Time Leaderboard. 2) It'll set a harder record for others to beat for quarterly earnings for next quarter. 3) It'll give you more cash to pimp your profile with later.
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 17:55 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 17:35 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 17:32 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Technically, we'll ensure the scale back mechanism doesn't affect market prices. However, it's unclear how people will behave re: buying/selling approaching the deadline which could cause a lot of volatility. I was hoping for some clues on what tactics people will employ at that point from you guys...
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 17:30 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 17:29 to the discussion "Leaderboard end-of-quarter changes" in Hubdub:
Rohan's got it - but to thrash out his example a bit more, if your QUARTERLY GAIN is 50k you're heading for the 20k band in Q2. This means your cash and predictions will be scaled to 40% of their current amount (20/50 = 40%). So, if wagered H$100 on a question and it's currently worth H$200, your stake will be reduced to H$40, and its worth will correspondingly be H$80. At the same time, if you have H$10k cash, that will be scaled back to H$4k as well.
Tom Griffiths started a conversation in Hubdub on March 20, 2008 12:27:
Leaderboard end-of-quarter changesHi everyone, there's a big event in the Hubdub calendar coming up (quarter end) and I wanted to get your feedback on our suggested leaderboard changes that will come into effect then.
There are a number of problems with the current situation.
1. New users are discouraged from joining Hubdub by the dominance of the leading players. Fewer users motivated to compete is bad for everyone.
2. The large amounts of cash at the disposal of some Hubdubbers makes it easy for them to move markets significantly. This is bad for them and everyone else, and reduces the accuracy of the site's forecasts.
3. Excessively large amounts of wealth become increasingly difficult to manage.
4. The challenge of a level playing field for users at all levels to compete on skill alone is removed by vast differences in worth. We want to make Hubdub as fun and exciting as possible for everyone.
We're eager to take the opportunity of the end of Hubdub's first quarter to create a solution which solves these problems, but which also:
i) Recognizes the incredible achievements to date of our top predictors, the time they have spent nursing their portfolios and the skill they have demonstrated at predicting
ii) Creates a weekly incentive to, on some level, 'start over' if you had a bad week previously
Here's our proposed solution.
a) The leaderboards we will have are:
- All Time Earnings (the combined gains a user has ever made in any quarter determines their position here)
- Quarterly Gains (as now: the gain made by users in the current quarter) [also available historically, e.g. for Q1 2008 too]
- Weekly Relative Gain (all users ranked by the percentage increase of their net worth since the start of the week)
The most emphasis will be given to Weekly Relative Gain, to encourage weekly play and to allow users at all wealth-levels to compete head to head.
b) All leaderboards will have multiple pages allowing you to browse everyone's position, and jump to your own page so you can compete with those around you.
c) We cannot allow users' wealth to continue to grow indefinitely over months and years. The problems we have now (discouragement of new users, massive market movement, difficult portfolio management) will only increase over time if we do. Quarter end seems an appropriate time to recognize and reward our top performers, but scale back everyone's wealth in a fair and reasonable way. We didn't want to scale everyone to the same amount, because better predictors have earned their right to a head start next quarter. Instead, we're proposing to scale back cash and predictions (proportionately) in the following bands:
Users with quarterly gain 20k or more will begin Q2 with 20k (combined cash and predictions)
Users with quarterly gain 5k or more (and less than 20k) will begin Q2 with 5k (combined cash and predictions)
Users with quarterly gain 2k or more (and less than 5k) will begin Q2 with 2k (combined cash and predictions)
Users with quarterly gain of less than 2k will begin Q2 with 1k (combined cash and predictions)
Users' profiles will be awarded an icon show which band they started in that they'll keep for the rest of the quarter.
We know this rescaling could be contentious. We've worked hard to come up with a solution that's fair to everybody, and is in the interests of the Hubdub community as a whole.
For our top predictors, rescaling doesn't penalize the skill you've shown. It allows you to prove your prowess again, against Hubdubbers of similar caliber from the same start point. I imagine the excitement to see who emerges top early on from you 20k'ers will be immense! And remember, your progress to date will put you top of the All Time Leaderboard and the Q1 historic leaderboard right away, so Hubdub immortality is yours. You can continue to build on your All Time Leaderboard position in successive quarters. In future, you may also be able to 'pimp your profile' by buying stuff with the cash represented on the All Time Leaderboard.
For our new predictors, it will give you a chance to make your mark on Hubdub right away and not be at the severe disadvantage that currently exists.
And for those of us in between, we'll be able to have weekly face-offs no matter what our worth is on the relative leaderboards.
Please let us know if you have any feedback or suggestions on the above. We're open to ideas for the fun icon titles given to users in each band, no modesty necessary :)
Tom
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 11:55 to the question "Sort and search your open predictions" in Hubdub:
Thanks for the suggestions - you're right, paging and % gain would be great additions. We'll add the % gain once we redesign My Hubdub to have the left menu on the top so there's more width to fit the column in (think of the folk with small screens). Paging may be a while unfortunately, as to get its benefits from a load-time perspective we'd have to modify the sorting and filtering code significantly.
Tom Griffiths asked a question in Hubdub on March 20, 2008 11:27:
Sort and search your open predictionsHey everyone, we've just released a new sortable and searchable view of your open predictions to help those folks who have large numbers of predictions to track.
It's not the default, but is accessible via the new link at the top of My Open Predictions in My Hubdub.
Please let us know either here or via the contact form what you think of it. We're particularly concerned about how it performs for users with large numbers of predictions, speed wise. Is it acceptable as is? I guess the reaction may be that it's not as speedy as we'd like, but at least it's better than what was there.
Cheers,
Tom
Tom Griffiths replied on March 20, 2008 11:23 to the idea "Large no. of predictions" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 18, 2008 13:47 to the discussion "Get shouting! (You can now shout at your friends on their profiles)" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths started a conversation in Hubdub on March 18, 2008 13:45:
Get shouting! (You can now shout at your friends on their profiles)Hey Hubdubbers, for greater interaction between you and your friends we've introduced the shout feature, where you can send someone a shout to appear on their profile (from their profile page). Please congratulate, converse and tease each other all you want! Just keep it clean and tasteful as it's visible to the world as well...
You get an email alert when someone sends you a shout on your profile. You can turn these off from My Hubdub -> Site Settings.
Other features that went in this release include the ability to add a description of yourself on your profile (My Hubdub -> My Profile) and a better activity tracker so you can see what people are up to blow-by-blow on their profiles.
Enjoy!
Tom
Tom Griffiths replied on March 14, 2008 09:07 to the idea "Sending email to friends [suggestion]" in Hubdub:
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Tom Griffiths replied on March 12, 2008 08:39 to the problem "Bug Report: Linked Markets in Related Markets Include Settled Markets" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 08, 2008 00:11 to the problem "Settlement email problem with hedged bet gain reporting" in Hubdub:
Right, I think I've tracked this down. All the calc's were correct but it was a formatting issue. Due to comma-separated thousands only the thousand figure was getting inserted (hence the $3 instead of $3000, $1 instead of $1000). This should now be fixed. You guys are obviously doing far too well and winning far too much money... Keep up the good work! ... And the bug reporting :)
Tom Griffiths replied on March 07, 2008 21:35 to the problem "Settlement email problem with hedged bet gain reporting" in Hubdub:
Tom Griffiths replied on March 06, 2008 11:40 to the question "Question in wrong category." in Hubdub:
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