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Prepending all Pings
I would like to have the option of prepending something to ALL my Pings. For example ": " for Facebook, LinkedIn etc.
I’m happy if someone from Ping.fm says, "Great idea! We've already starting working on it!"
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Inappropriate?We talked about this a while back, but it seems that most people, even before ping.fm, ignore the resulting syntax of the entry anyway.. All the different services are inconsistent with how statuses are displayed, some displaying only the users' text, some with username + text, some with username + ":" + text.
If it was customizable, I bet most people would customize it the exact same way, and the others would have theirs wrong or not at all. If we can think of a way to standardize this we could just apply it to everyone and reduce the hassle of making users customize it.
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Inappropriate?What about using a "token" system. This may seem a little complicated but I think it might work.
Basically, you allow each person to create tokens such as %s that they can configure replacements per service. So if I create %s and then configure that token so that when it's being posted to facebook it is replaced with "is" and when it's being posted to twitter it "I'm", etc, etc. This may seem a little convuluded but the beauty of such a sytem is that it can be further customizable beyond what we're talking about here and, most importantly, if someone doesn't configure tokens its as if nothing changed.
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Inappropriate?Hi Adam. Thanks for responding. Quite the disappointment though.
I think the discussion is REALLY missing the point. If you look closely at every service you have added, there really are ONLY TWO TYPES of services. Those which look alright with the postings as they are (such as Twitter or Plurk) or others which will prefix the posting with an account identifier. In my case it is Robert. It is the same on LinkedIn status, Facebook, Plaxo and a few others. There's NOTHING ELSE to confuse "people".
Presently, as it stands, if I post a status update and I don't include a separator, the post from Ping looks like this "Robert Thanks for the update!" . Though it looks like I'm thanking myself for something, it really is intended for those in my network. Therefore I must put in the extra ": " before every post to be "Robert : Thanks for the update!" Which makes more sense. Even if Twitter shows it as ": Thanks for the update", no one will even notice the extra two characters at the front though I may or may not be consistent in remembering it. It just simply makes using Ping.fm that much more harder.
This is turning into such a great service Adam and I'm certainly evangelizing it in every tech community I am involved with.. both in North America and in Japan. I hope you see the value of this and take another more serious look to making this an "option" available for those wanting it.
I’m kinda almost given up.
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not sure why this is such a big deal. every time i post a status update i just preface it with " - ". Looks fine on every network. -
Inappropriate?I agree with you in concept and I would like it to work, but we need to define exactly how it would work. We have spent a lot of time thinking about this but have not came up with a perfect solution.
>>If you look closely at every service you have added, there really are ONLY TWO TYPES of services.
We noticed this a long time ago, this is why we have the "microblog" and "status" methods. This allows you to specify which type of entry you are doing, but sometimes the service you want to post to doesn't support the method you want to send it to. We compensate by jamming stuff where it doesn't fit, because everyone wanted a "one post goes everywhere" solution, even though in reality, that's illogical.
The problem with your proposed solution is that you might not always want a ":" in front of all of your MySpace posts (I use MySpace as an example because it forces a username in front of your status). If you put the : there, you are back in the same position you were before where it doesn't always make sense for other posts. If you think this trade-off is acceptable or you can specify a better method, we could implement this feature.
p.s. I'm not trying to say "no, we won't do it", I suggested this a while back.. I just think there's a lot of logical loopholes that have to be sealed up first.
I’m undecided
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Inappropriate?Okay, I spent some more time on this. I have a good idea of how to handle it.. it may not be perfect, but it's close. May take a few days to implement along with the other things in the queue... Hang in there.
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Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.
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Any progress?
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Inappropriate?Great idea. Definitely very necessary.
Given that ping.fm integrates with so many services, and will presumably be continually adding new services over time, I think the options need to be on a per service level. So I can have all Faceook status updates prefaced with "says" so they appear "Callum says Blah" but Twitter statuses posted straight with nothing prepended.
It's got to be a per-service option. Then it'll be future proof, flexible, and if most people are happy with it, they can ignore it. Plus, sensible defaults could be set for new services.
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this was the first idea we had a while back, but it does not really solve the problem, it just re-introduces the same problem in a different way. I wish this would solve the problem for everyone, because it would be fairly easy to implement.. but i'm sure if we did it this way, we would still get the same complaints.
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I hold a different view. I think most services are consistent in how they display messages between users. So Facebook has their way, LinkedIn has theirs, etc, but they're the same for all users. So either a sensible default per service, or a user chosen text per service, would do the trick.
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Also, I'm not sure what people would complain about if they could change it on a per service basis. Set it up once (or use the sensible default) and forget about it.
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Inappropriate?I do hope you'll integrate some sort of separator, prepend option for this service. Twittersync does it with very good results but ever since Twitter "temporarily" disabled IM, that app hasn't worked.
Pimg.fm is useful to the extent that users can make it work for them. From that perspective, I think even a less than perfect solution will earn dividends.
I’m bemused by this conversation
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Inappropriate?what about a small text box before the larger content box that will be the prefix. and below that small text box is the service listed with a check box next to it or enabling/disabling the prefix for that service. does that make any sense? -
Inappropriate?Sorry this is taking so long to implement. We have other things in the queue right now, it may be a few more days before we can start on this one, but we have a good plan for it
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Inappropriate?Just though I'd mention that, when posting a microblog to Plurk I'd like Ping.fm to automagically prepend the text with 'says'.
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Inappropriate?I'm glad someone suggested this, I think its a great idea - especially for Facebook in my case.
I’m hopeful
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Inappropriate?http://ping.fm/settings/default/
adjust grammar.
I know everyone wanted to customize exactly what each one says, but we're trying to make this simple enough for the average user. Try it out and let me know what you think.
reading this might help too: http://ping.fm/settings/help/
I’m adjusting my grammar
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Is there at least some plan to still add a customized prefix? I don't care for the "User says:" prefix :(
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Inappropriate?Hmm, it's not working for me. I enabled the "Adjust Grammar" setting, then posted a message. I checked Facebook and saw that my post was not prefixed. I then removed and re-added the app to Facebook and tried again, but it still wasn't prefixed. Am I doing something wrong?
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Inappropriate?My fault for not including instruction on this, but for the auto-adjustment to work, you first need to add your name to your Ping.fm profile.
http://ping.fm/profile/
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Inappropriate?I still agree with the above posters. Even if not turned on by default, having the option to have custom prefixes on a per service basis would be ideal.
This combined with custom triggers would allow an unlimited number of combinations to handle any kind of status update a user would want to send.
I’m hopeful.
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