Be more transparent about what you're doing to the service.
When Plurk works well it is a great service. For the past several months, however (since around October 2008) feature changes, system instability, and other changes to the service have seriously diminished its capability to be an engaging social network. Adding to the frustration is the fact that Plurk is pretty much a black box company—aside from a blog that's intermittently updated and not publicized and *rare* public timeline posts, there's no communication from the development team about what's going on—something I think is critical for maintaining your customer base and expanding it. I encourage—BEG—the people behind the service to first, stop changing features, adding features, and generally futzing around with the system. PLEASE focus on making Plurk reliable. New features should come only after you're able to consistently deliver existing services. Second, please provide clear, obvious, and regular communication about what's going on. Users shouldn't have to hunt around on the Internet to find a way of communicating with you. If your staff isn't willing to communicate honestly and openly with your customers on a regular and continuing basis, then you should stop altogether—inconsistent and irregular feedback from staff is possibly more annoying than the plague of problems currently affecting the service. You need a public spokesperson to keep customers apprised of what's going on (especially in times like now where your reliability is dismal) or people will give up and look for a competitor.
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Inappropriate?I agree, totally. Plurk gets no press but soon all it will get is negative press as it has been totally unstable since I joined in November. Has problems weekly and with no other information all users can think is the server is on the roof in the rain some where with no umbrella. Hopefully they will get their act together soon before everyone runs back to twitter.
I’m displeased, annoyed
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Inappropriate?agree. they should at least announce the changes prior the changes are implemented.
but i'm not sure that anyone will notice this post/comment/point of view - i'm not sure that anybody really reads it :)
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I almost agree, but differ on a few issues. What you guys need to do first and foremost is GET THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING acceptably. Revert back from whatever caused these problems if you can. Number two, stop new development, and instead focus on implementing better change management, and testing practices. THESE PROBLEMS SHOULD NEVER BE HITTING YOUR PUBLIC SERVERS! If you're investors don't want to accept and iimplement that, you might as well pack up and start looking for new jobs, and they may as well kiss what money they have invested goodbye because people are not going to continue to stand by through these problems.
I’m angry
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Inappropriate?I agree that those in charge of Plurk need to step back and get the service working reliably before trying to fancy and pretty things up. I know its a free service... and I LOVE that it's there for my friends and I to goof off on but "You get what you pay for" only goes so far in accruing loyalty and patience.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?As a Top 10 / 100 Karma d00d (which means I've been here from the start) I must concur with my loyal subjects above. Please Plurk... adhere to the words of wisdom from your users. They come from those who will keep you alive. Do not turn a deaf ear. P.S. I am very funny.
I’m concerned.
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I agree, you are funny! (lmao)
But all kidding aside - just a little more transparency will go a long way with your loyal users. Please just update more often and let us know in advance when downtime is going to occur - when possible of course. -
Inappropriate?We use plurk too and we know about the problems. Believe me, we are working very hard on these issues (they personally drive me nuts).
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Ryan, the issue is not whether you know about the problems or are bothered by them. The issue is the manner in which your company does or does not *communicate* about the problems with users, in a timely, transparent fashion. -
Inappropriate?I know you guys are using the system, and I truly believe that you guys are working extremely hard. I'm a developer myself and I've been in the same position. I understand how insanely frustrating it can be to have whining and complaining when things are going wrong.
When you see me voice my opinion, as I did tonight, it is out of genuine concern for not only what I think is a great system, but the people who have put their souls into the work to make it possible - You guys. I would hate to see Plurk suffer the same fate that I have seen other projects, a few I have worked on, suffer in the past. Unfortunately you guys end up taking the brunt of the pressure when things go wrong even though you probably aren't given the resources to prevent them. I'd focus my energy on those people if I knew who they were.
I'm not the type of person to complain without offering solutions, so should you wish, feel free to open up a dialog with me about anything. I'd be more than glad to help out in any way I can.
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?It's hard to improve on David's post, so I will just say, "amen".
I’m not optimistic.
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Inappropriate?The reply by the employee does not suffice for purposes as requested by David. The excuse is lame. And why have they still not updated their blog???
Fail!
I’m disgusted
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Inappropriate?Andre, ok point noted. We'll work on this.
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Inappropriate?Something breaks? Fine, it happens.
Upgrading something? Great.
Adding new features? Great.
Having unscheduled downtime? It happens.
Found a problem and working to fix it ASAP? Great.
COMMUNICATE with us. Tell us what's happening. I promise, your users would be much more understanding of these things if we KNEW what was going on. Use Plurk Buddy to inform us. Update your blog on a regular basis. If you have to put up the "Plurk is unavailable" screen we'd be much less upset if you told us after it WHY you had to do it.
Plurk is a great service. I know many of us enjoy it. We're just frustrated.
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this is one of the best points
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Inappropriate?As long as a long-time user can be, I've been. I've watched Plurk grow, and compared to Twitter issues, Plurk has ALMOST always maintained some functionality with few A-team/Critter pictures even while having problems. Some problems are feature related, some growth related - and since this is a live production service public less than a year, it can often be called Alpha more than Beta, much less "Production."
But Plurk is gaining critical mass. Happy users have evangelized, our networks have grown. Perhaps you are now at the point where only some users are on a beta server, while most users reside on the last stable release that lacks the new features. To the extent that the database can be segregated, it would let those of us who are willing to put up with more service interruptions be part of this great product taking place, while letting those with less patience benefit from a stable release.
And without opening that black box too much - maybe updates could be announced by Plurkbuddy, and take place in a regular maintenance window. Freeze Karma on Sundays, and make changes every other Sunday during a scheduled maintenance window?
I’m sad when its down, but usually satisfied.
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Inappropriate?I'm going to say "Amen" to David's original post, and add that there is a major problem when you are trying to make fixes/changes while the site is live. If you have to, announce that there will be maintenance going on, place the maintenance shutdown message, and close things until it works.
A randomly failing site does nothing for creating loyalty.
I’m frustrated
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agreed.
lets vote plurk off the island.
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Inappropriate?Similar issues on Twitter are what led me to the great land of Plurk...I want to stay here, please! There are some great suggestions above, and I know that although you don't always acknowledge you are always listening.
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?In light of being more transparent: we're doing some work on the servers at the moment. We're sorry for the downtime :(
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If you're working on the servers then why not pull the site down temporarily? I'd much rather see the "Plurk is down for maintenance" screen than continually have problems reading anything. -
Ryan, I'm glad that you all are "aware" of the problems, but frankly this "in light of being more transparent" comment feels like a slap in the face. Commenting here—where there are fewer than thirty people—that your service is continuing to be unstable is useless. It's patently obvious to the entire userbase that Plurk is having problems because the servers keep going down. If you're truly interested in being transparent and updating your users, you should change the disingenuous text on the "maintenance" Web page and the "page not found" error page to be honest: your system is down and will be back when you can get it working. It's not "routine maintenance." -
Inappropriate?I want to add to my original post that while it was nice to see a couple of posts from Plurkbuddy on Friday and Saturday, they do not address the systemic lack of feedback from the developers about what's going on. Additionally, announcing new features or tweaks to non-core functions that have been broken for months is an insult to people who are unable to use the basic core functions of the service. Logging in this morning (2009-01-11 US eastern time) to see that some tweaks have been made to the look-and-feel of the site while still seeing core problems is another slap in the face.
If there were a viable alternative to Plurk, I'd be heading there NOW and inviting everyone I know from Plurk.
I’m insulted by the lip-service.
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Inappropriate?Like Ryan stated, we will try to improve the situation with communication.
This issue is not issue about doing new features, but about database servers crashing down - - which was unexpected and was very hard to solve.
That said, you will not get far with snarky and unpleasant comments - they will be ignored.
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Inappropriate?Here is a GREAT article on what the Plurk employees can do to increase transparency and start being good communicators:
http://mashable.com/2009/01/28/social...
It's very important to communicate in advance with users.
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Thanks. It's a great article and we'll try our best to improve our communication.
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Inappropriate?I'd like to point to Facebook for a moment. They recently modified their terms of service in an opaque fashion—similar to how Plurk staff generally interact with its customers. In case you don't follow Facebook, the change they made had (in the opinion of a great many people) fundamental implications to the way Facebook handled user content. After a fair amount of "damage control" in the blogosphere, on Facebook itself, and on news sites, they decided to revert to their previous terms while they find a way to re-write them to be clearer.
What's most important here (in my opinion) for Plurk is that the new change wasn't implemented quietly. Facebook actually added a banner announcement at the top of each person's profile in a position that is obvious and impossible to miss. This is an *excellent* example of what I tried to get across originally and still think is crucial for Plurk to learn. Both services are free and both have had their share of growing pains and problems, but Facebook (at least in this instance) has gone out of its way to make sure customers are aware of what they're doing to try to fix the (current) problem. If Plurk employees took a similar approach, I think you'd see a huge cooling down in the level of frustration and sarcasm directed at you. Customers might reconsider leaving and there would probably be fewer comments along the lines of "oh, I see Plurk's sucking again today" that are approaching ubiquity now.
I’m hopeful this will be taken in the constructive way it's meant.
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this is one of the best points
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Inappropriate?I agree there needs to be transparency and info for Plurkers. I have no idea how Plurk makes money to keep going, but whatever, it has to be responsive. FB is good to give us an information banner about their changes.
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?I'm bumping this back up because it continues to be relevant. In the past couple of weeks at least two new "features" have been stealthily added to Plurk (deleting responses and a "search" function) without any sort of notice. In both cases Plurk's reliability crashed after implementation (right now, on 2009-05-02 at 19:30 ET, Plurks with responses are only occasionally loading, for example).
I think it's great that Plurk-the-company wants its users to know about how the Chinese government is blocking the service, but WHY can't the employees even notify users of new functions through, e.g., the blog? Why is it that with every single new feature (I can recall), Plurk's reliability sinks into the toilet?
You guys actually started to improve a little after the disastrous months of the beginning of 2009 when the service was down almost as often as it was up... please don't let things return to the level of unpleasant snark from both sides: keep your users informed of what's going on!
I’m frustrated by so little transparency.
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Inappropriate?It's possible that Amir etc simply can't do everything all at once, they're only a small team, and i believe, do their best, even if it isn't quite how we'd all like things to be.
In my opinion, Plurk need a spokes(wo)men to simply write the blogs, plurks etc when they're told what Plurk is doing. Amir etc would simply need to mention it and the spokesmen would then be left to publicize this to all users, so this doesn't annoy so many users. -
Inappropriate?Anyone that is interested in the small things that we do on a daily basis can follow me on Plurk: http://plurk.com/amix
I usually Plurk when I do a worthwhile change.
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Inappropriate?Plurk's stability has taken a nosedive again in recent weeks, with (predictably) no commentary in the blog, or on the Plurkbuddy account. It feels like a lost cause raising this issue again, but frustration is again becoming palpable.
I’m disappointed and unsurprised.
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