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Can Polar Rose add tags to Flickr rather than notes?
Rather than adding notes to Flickr, is it possible for Polar Rose to add the names of those identified in a photograph as a tag?
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We'll consider the use of tags next to notes. The downside of tags, as Rob points out, is that there is no way to link a tag to the page on Polar Rose that hold all the photos of that person.
In the near future we'll support other sites besides Flickr. Going tag-only would then make it impossible to see all photos of a person across all the different photo sharing sites.
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Inappropriate?I would like the option of having tags and/or notes you could select which you would like created in the settings -
Inappropriate?After I started tagging photos, one of my Flickr contacts asked me why I was adding notes to all my photos. That's when I noticed that Polar Rose has been adding notes to ALL my self-tagged photos. . .this should be explained in the tutorial or at least have the ability to turn it off. I agree that this should be a setting that I can toggle to be tags and not notes. I usually use notes to point out specific things in my Flickr photos and not identify people. I understand adding a the notes drives traffic to the Polar Rose site, but adding notes is this manner is a major turn-off for my use of this service.2 Comments Add a comment
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There have been a lot of comments around why we don't immediately put notes on Flickr (we wait until the person who has been named signs up and picks public vs. private. This is why self-tagged photos get a note directly, since you are already signed up). People feel that not having the notes is a turn-off from them :-).
Interesting then to see the opposite point of view. We'll look at making the photo note bit more clear in the tutorial. Not sure about turning it off...the notes are sort of a large part of Polar Rose's functionality and they do indeed drive traffic.
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Thijs,
After I took more time to think about this, it's not as bad as I originally thought. It just wasn't that obvious that the Flickr tags were going to happen automatically. If you were to have made it clear in the tutorial it wouldn't have been such a shock to me. From my point of view, I gave Polar Rose authorization in Flickr to download my photos, and not to make changes within Flickr. Modifying the documentation to indicate this ahead of time (from somebody who is a heavy Flickr user), will help reduce those WTF moments when the Flickr tags begin to appear.
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Inappropriate?We'll consider the use of tags next to notes. The downside of tags, as Rob points out, is that there is no way to link a tag to the page on Polar Rose that hold all the photos of that person.
In the near future we'll support other sites besides Flickr. Going tag-only would then make it impossible to see all photos of a person across all the different photo sharing sites.
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It'd really be a better user experience on the Flickr side to add tags and notes. Maybe, even, add tags for users that aren't PolarRose users. That way, I can find other photos tagged with them in my own photostream, but not across the whole internet.
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That isn't actually true. Flickr's machine tags are ideally suited for this type of thing.
http://code.flickr.com/blog/2009/07/0...
http://blog.flickr.net/en/2009/08/28/...
There are several applications using the flickr:user=usridnumber to quickly identify photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/fac...=*/ -
That isn't actually true. Flickr's machine tags are ideally suited for this type of thing.
http://code.flickr.com/blog/2009/07/0...
http://blog.flickr.net/en/2009/08/28/...
There are several applications using the flickr:user=usridnumber to quickly identify photos.
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Inappropriate?I just discovered another face detection (and purportedly recognition is coming) site that lets you apply Flickr notes *and* tags: www.tag4you.com. The UI is decidedly not as slick as Polar Rose (and their recognition stuff isn't even publicly available), but they 1) don't require your friends to be on Facebook or "confirm" the tags. You can use whatever tags you want, 2) they create a note *and* they create a regular tag. Neither link back to them, 3) they add a comment to each photo saying that the photo was tagged by tag4you.com.
If they cleaned up their UI, had face recognition stuff that works, and hooked up with Smugmug and Phanfare, I'd be stoked. Heck, I'd even pay for the service. Enough with this free stuff marketed virally that has no real way of earning money. Give me something that I'd pay for. I have 100GB of photos that I'd like to face tag, but I don't want everything in iPhoto, and I want the data as IPTC Keywords in the JPEG files themselves, not stored in a proprietary and non-portable database.
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Inappropriate?What if, in addition to adding a tag with the person's name, Polar Rose also added a machine tag with the persons GUID?
Like "ploarrose:pathawks01" or something.
You could even team up with Flickr and get them to add a box on the photo page with a link to "View more pictures of Pat Hawks" or something, like they've done with Dopplr.
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Inappropriate?Note that Flickr now have a new people tagging feature - it would be nice to have this enabled as an option too.
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