Coping with Categories
thanks.
-jesse liberty
The more people who ask this question, the more it gets noticed.
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Inappropriate?Hey Jesse-
There will be (both) shortly!
We tend to find that we make better software for our users if we release very early and then listen to what folks have to say. We could have left categories "in the oven" for a bit longer, but I don't think that would've (long term) made it better!
FWIW, here are our thoughts on categories.
-A majority of our active users don't tag (or barely tag) - the overhead is too high.
-A lot of what we plan to eventually offer requires the ability to compare people to other folks. With tags, this is pretty challenging.
Categories are a taxonomy for folks who don't want to invest in the depth of tagging.
Fairly soon, we'll introduce the ability to suggest a category, but ultimately categories will be a shared asset, so this is going to be a democratic process. Our thought is that if categories are too general for you (or don't quite match perfectly), you can use tags to add some subjective color (I use the tags of "work" and "personal", for example).
Thanks for the feedback-- and stay tuned!
I’m confident
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And no way to get rid of them? I think that the above mentioned question has a good point - 'remove from dashboard.' Or at least manage them. I am not a majority. And as such, I understand that you do not really care about my opinion because I have sent already 4! help requests and I am writing about categories again. Let me repeat - they are not useful! At all! Moreover, for me they really clutter my dashboard and distract from my data. Why do I need an ability to compare people to other folks? You might need it. What if I don't want to be compared? What about your privacy policy which indicates that: "Other users can't see any of your data or personal information." Is it going to be changed? Even though I might be a minority, but on this forum, I am not the only one who has already requested the option to manage the dashboard. -
@lyasya Um. Please understand that we are only 3 people right now getting 30-60 emails PER DAY from RescueTime users (on top of normal corrospondance from each other, potential investors, friends, family, etc.). To move the product forward, we have to prioritize responding to paying customers first and people who are experiencing bugs second. We read every email, but if it's an email that effectively says, "I would prefer if this feature did X rather than Y", we don't have the manpower to respond to many of those. I truly wish we did. Regarding privacy, i think you misunderstood. No RescueTime user can see any other individual user's data. Period. What we will be rolling out in the future is the ability to compare to the average user. There is some additional transparency in premium groups, detailed here: http://www.rescuetime.com/product_tour_biz Please understand that it is decidedly NOT helpful to send us 4 emails through various forms on our site AND post on the forum here about the same issue. -
Inappropriate?Tony, thanks for the quick reply, and no good deed goes unpunished. The key for me is that different folk are going to use your tool for different reasons, and I certainly understnad what you are saying about (a) some folks don't tag and (b) wanting comparable categories. What I think would make it much less frustrating would be adding a hide/show for each of the graphs on the dashboard.
Even better, of course, woudl be to have the ability to pick among a set of graphs and place them into a grid; but that could wait.
I’m unreasonably impatient
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Your unreasonably impatient wish is my command. :-) You can now minimze graphs! Drag and drop on a grid is coming soon. -
Inappropriate?Hey All-- just a note that we just pushed graph minimizing (which is a pre-cursor to eventually being able to drag/drop graphs around the dashboard). If categories aren't your thing, you can now minimize it.
And, for the record- it's totally okay if it's not your thing. It's a feature that's aimed squarely at people who aren't using tags because of the complexity and overhead. If you prefer the power of tags over the convenience of Categories, more power to ya.
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Thank you!!! I really really appreciate that and I am really really happy now:)))
I’m thankful
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