Tagging every web page come on now
this web page seems like a great product. its a good idea and maybe it could help me be more productive on the things i want to do. but wow i have to tag every single web page i look at. i do a lot of research so i have to look at a lot of web pages. i read a lot of news articles. i have to tage every single one. there should be a way to make this less of a hassle. i after two pages and still two more left of tagging i stopped. so what use is the software if i have to tag every detail. so instead of rescuing my time i spending more of it on your web site instead it helping me i am helping it
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Inappropriate?I tag a lot of web pages in del.icio.us, and it's a pain to re-tag them in Rescue Time too. Why not automatically pull in my del.icio.us tags?
I’m hopeful
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Inappropriate?Delicious is a grand idea! Love it. Pandammonium also has some good ideas.
We definitely see the pain in tagging. First of all, we need to make it clear that you don't NEED to tag everything. The only consequence to untagged sites is that your untagged "bar" grows...
More importantly, we need to offer the ability to to automatically tag based on some simple rules that you can set up.
Regarding: "so instead of rescuing my time i spending more of it on your web site instead it helping me i am helping it"... We don't want that! There's always going to be a swath of sites that you visit once and never visit again which will have to be untagged-- even if we create an "autotagging" engine, it's not going to allow you to set up rules to catch every edge case.
In any case, we're going to make it easier on you guys (and us!)... One of our themes with RescueTime is that we'd rather have it be EASY and PAINLESS than DIFFICULT and PERFECT. :-)
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Inappropriate?I think the pitfall is that very new users (like me) have so little data that they start trying to tag everything to get more data on the bar graphs. Perhaps you could make the "don't tag everything" adviso more prominent. I did just see it somewhere on the site after my previous post.
As for the EASY and PAINLESS theme, perhaps you could completely hide entries that have less than, say, an hour of accrued time or were used only on a single day. Keep the "long tail of data" out of view unless the truly geeky opt into seeing it.
I’m excited about a great product!
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Inappropriate?"First of all, we need to make it clear that you don't NEED to tag everything," said Tony.
I like to have everything tagged (yeah, I know). This is why I like the idea of a default tag for web sites. Then, for me, it would be easy and painless :)
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Inappropriate?I agree. We could really use a filter that says, "Any web page I haven't specifically tagged should be listed as "Internet." That way we can separate all general surfing from specific web site usage.
Even filters could help with that. So "Any browser activity under 5 minutes should fall into the general category "Internet.""
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?Why not let reasonable rules such as those JuryDuty mentioned be the default, for the EASY and PAINLESS crowd, then bury them as options for those who want to tweak them?
I’m hoping three developers can keep coding while reading suggestions!
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Inappropriate?Filters and autotaggignmay help. I have seen many times DON'T TAG EVERYTHING
Here is how I do it. This is a good job for Fiday Afternoon.
I go to the list of untagged apps/sites and ask for weekly view. Then I pick a number like 10 minutes. Anything that I spent more than 10 minutes this week should "probably" be counted". Then I spend a few seconds tagging those.
Then I go to monthly view and pick another time period like say 20 minutes: i.e. anything more than 20 minutes per month should probbaly be counted...tag those.
Then I go bak and check the size of my untagged for the week and month. If I am happy with the unmeasured ratio I move on.
Once you get used to this process, you can probbaly spend 5 minutes a week or less doing maintenance.
Those who use RT for billing and other dailya ctivities may need a different approach.
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