Adult sites must to pay?

I'm in the same boat as planetabdsm! You guys made the announcement today...

Perhaps it's me. Maybe, just maybe, I don't understand what a "Social Network" means. It sounds to me like your selling us a service that will allow us to run our own PORN SITE, and not a SOCIAL NETWORK..

I run a fantasy themed network. My members are part of a community that thrives on artwork and crafts. A lot of the artwork and craft is sexual in nature, the artists and members like to share the things they find or create that is sexual and sometimes post pics of themselves.

A lot of times my community members are forced to go with websites that aren't meeting all of their community network wants and needs. When I became a member of some Ning networks, I saw Networks do what the community I am a part of wants and desperately needed, so I made one. It was great, everyone loved it! Then Ning dropped the bomb shell on us! D: Were were being kicked out.. or at least, those of us who were honest about having adult communities were kicked out (I'm still part of quite a few adult Ning Networks who decided to remain silent and private and are still thriving). Then were hear from you guys, "join SocialGo, we won't kick you to the curb like those Ning bastards, Free or Premium Networks!" Cleverly hiding that Mature Networks will get charged. Now you come out and say, we don't want you guys on Social go, so now go to Zocku!

To me this reads: All Adult, all the time, monetize your network, make money off of your members who were just looking to make friends on a social network! For $50 a month! 13days to decide! Do it now or get shut down! Want your content? Sure! You can PURCHASE it! (No Fee mentioned there??) :(

I'm upset :( At the moment, since I invested all this time, I now have two options. Go with your Zocku plan, or shut down my network. Since I think I'll loose all my members who can easily do this on LiveJournal for free, it'll most likely end up getting shut down. I'm gonna try it for a little while, but I can't see myself paying $50 a month for a site that wasn't meant to make money.

I'm upset about this, and you can probably read that :(

On a lighter note, helping us out and getting options into our network so that if we are forced to charge something, giving us some real full control over things. Like the ability to limit pictures you can upload to like 50 or 100, and if you want more, it'll be $5 extra a month.. same with videos, upload 10, want to add more, etc...

Shy Matsi,

It looks like it's really going to cost us $69.98 a month, the extra $19.99 is for the membership billing, which to me I feel should be included with the $49.99

Stivi,

I do understand the need for you guys to bill us. I was going to purchase premium services either way, but, as Francois pointed out, if we hope to have our members help us out and put to use your custom member billing, it's gonna cost us $70 a month. That'd be a great price too, if I were charging for accounts, selling adult DVDs, selling online peep shows, and perhaps trying to create an x-rated magazine using the blogs that are written by my members.

Unfortunately, the community I belong to, which is based on fantasy, won't be interested in that. They draw content, G-XXX rated, for amusement and arousal. They write stories, action to sexuality, dealing with personal to loving issues. They create crafts, ranging from spiritual to sexual. They go to conventions, both for the fantasy action and adventure, to the sexual aspect as well. They hold gatherings on a daily basis to talk about the fantasy interest.. My G rated Ning community has close to 2,000 members.. My SocialGo Adult community, based on the same community as the G rated one, only has 400 members (Both started at the same time). The sexual aspect is really small, but important to some in the community we are a part of.

As a programmer and entrepreneur myself, I do understand your need to make money off of your hard work and not giving networks that could give you grief a free ride. But you only give us 1 option(excluding the option to give up), while your G rated communities have 3 options. I'm not saying your adult communities should have a freebie option, but something cheaper would make it easier on some of us not looking to monetize from our members, who we also may call friends.

I understand that the option of giving a plan like $30/$60/$90 may not be an option.. but putting those controls in place, with or without the membership billing option, so that we can limit our members and control content would help those of us barely being able to afford your current plan, able to keep the cost down without having to add on more space when our content starts going over the storage capacity.

Thanks Stivi,
Some of the content that will be posted will have to go to Zocku.. I know it, I'll email you. :)

Now that adult network have to be moved to zocku, why can't we have more than one price plan. At this point I really don't care for white labeling, all my members already know we are not on our own servers.

I would be happy if we could have the same exact premium price as the SocialGo premium of $24.99 or even $29.99 a month, but to move it to $49.99 still seems high for what it looks like we are paying double the SG premium to get an extra 2gb storage and 20gb bandwidth.

Are all the bugs worked out on zocku. BTW, what does the zocku mean. It sounds like if I'm pronouncing it as 'suck-you'. Like the chat feature, are members shown online for more than 3 min. They may be watching a video, reading a long blog, too busy doing something with their free hand, but are still online but are not appearing to be which would defeat the purpose of even having the chat/video chat feature.

Do members have a way to save things to their favorites, Can Admin.'s place certain things to a featured list? Does the search function on the sidebar controls able to search for video by title or one word phrase such as one word from the title of the video or picture or even by tags? Or are these going to be extra $$ when ever the widget store opens.

I think my best route to go would be just pay the $49.99 and limit members content, make membership free and use Evil Genius CrankStation when he releases it, which sounds to be more reliable since it's not limited by web browsers and would have a good communication tool for members. I guess I would have to look to that as a means to capitalize on my network. I hope the Evil Genius can release it soon.

stivi and others at socialgo reading this.
Please do NOT be discouraged by all these angry people that want everything for free.
please charge us... its economics.
the only thing I ask is better support.
I will check this Zocku later today.

can we accept payments from our users?? you had paypal... did you guys change that.
cause paypal wont let us charge for adult sites.
thanks

This is a slap in the face! I knew this would happen and it did. I can say that I am happy that I moved over to Dating Site Builder. I have read people saying that they didn't care for them but, for me so far so good. They don't have the greatest customer service but, at least I get what I want. Yes I do have to pay for it but, not a monthly fee. I have everything I need for $180.00 a month. So I won't be making the switch over to Zocku. I don't feel the need to pay for Social Go Part 2.

Digital Creator. thank you soo much for making me feel im not the only one who is able to speak there minds.
i know that everyone with sites like ours are angry & feel there being treated unfairly but not enough of them are speaking up.
please speak up people! if your affraid that socialgo will delete your network because they didnt like what you said than speak your mind on my utube channel, http://youtube.com/watch?v=YFyt88O3cC...
leave your thoughts on that video, let the world know what you feel & socialgo will never know who you are.
couldnt beleive i got 3 responces agreeing with me on that vid within the first hour of posting it.
well, actually i could beleive it because socialgo is full of shit & all you adult network owners know it so please speak on it. please!!!!!!!

I don't think it's so much as that people not speaking up, but rather that they feel like it won't change anything so they just won't leave a comment. Another reason is because it may be too early to start judging.

Being that we are going to have to basically pay $50 a month I hope those bugs I mentioned above are not present and the features mentioned are not going to be extra as they should be included.

As for membership billing maybe you'd have to manually take charge of that if you don't want to fork up an extra $20. Like manually manage your members and use the subscription button option paypal that offers.

While reading comments on Zocku I see people bringing up the issue as that paypal does not allow adult content billing. I see many adult business use CCBill.com to charge members. Could this be an option for Zocku?

How about we all do this, try it out, give it a month, and see if we can get at least some new members to join our networks that will be willing to pay and see if we can make enough to pay these fees, like say a monthly fee of $5.00 or $5.99

Also for small networks could use traffic from a searchable network option on zocku that allows networks to be found on some kind of directory. Most small networks don't have the funds to keep advertising there sites, so an option as this would be helpful in bringing in more memberships to a network. That's how I found most networks when I was on N;ng.

anyone dropping their network can please send a message to your members to join http://ruffkin.com

thought you were done with SocialGO?

no ryan, there gonna stop treating people unfairly & stop being hipocrits & liars before ill ever be done with them.
i spent a ton of time building my ning network only to get it deleted. now, i spent a ton of time again building with socialgo because i trusted them & i thought they were fair & liberal but it turns out that they decided to treat network creators like ourselves unfairly & unequally & thats totally unacceptable in my book. so, now pages will be written.
good to see you again ryan.

I'm still not sure how they are being unfair? The adult site package is not the same as the regular its white label and has more bandwidth..the regular is not much cheaper when you add on the extra's.

I said on here for months to expect to pay at least the ning premium price which is $65 so to pay $49 is $15 cheaper. If ning kept the adult sites who's to say they might have charged $99.

The pricing is taking into consideration the high video content....most regular networks will never use 1/4 of the space adult sizes use. SocialGO knows this and has priced accordingly. Also when your members put up titan media and those lawyers come snapping at their door it will cost them to handle these situations...admin cost is the highest cost.

There are other options...dolphin and dating site builder..if you are not happy

WTH is dolphin?

They have a $998 buck help you set up fee...but i'd rather pay $49 and try to make it work for a month see if you can make $998 in member fees

Naw... I'm cool on that.

wow - how emotional. Interesting to follow...