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Automatically organizing music library
Can Songbird copy my music into a music library file and then automatically organize my music library the way Itunes does? (By keeping the artist folders organized by album, etc.) For example, if I have music or other audio files on my computer that I want to put into Songbird, is there a way for it to automatically copy it into a music library folder and then organize it after I drag it into Songbird?
I’m hoping I can be convinced to convert to Songbird!
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To all:
There is a nice way to get your compilations not scattered around.
- Use the AlbumArtist tag:
---- For compilations, set this tag to one single value, "Compilation", or 'Various Artists" for instance
---- For other tracks, copy the Artist tag into the AlbumArtist tag (use the Tagger extension to do that, it's very powerful. http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/... )
- Now all your tracks should have an AlbumArtist
- Update the structure of the Manage Music in the Options: set it to 'AlbumArtist\Album' instead of the default 'Artist\Album"
- Songbird will move all your files to a new structure, with all compilation tracks in a single "Compilation' folder, and all other tracks sorted by Artist.
I'm sure the result will be similar to what you are looking for.
Note that you can also add the field AlbumArtist to the 3-selector pane, as a selector, and also as a displayed column in the list of tracks (by right-clicking on the header rows of both the list and the selector pane)
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1. Compilations
I may have this completely the wrong way, but I don't understand what the problem with compilations is. I have many albums that are compilations. I put 'Various' in the album artist field, and then the album name, so they are all neatly organised by Songbird in a 'Various' folder (I personally use the year as a subfolder, and then the album title as a further subfolder). In fact, I think Songbird has a clear advantage here, because many other programmes do not use an 'album artist' field.
2. Ignored folders
I am running two Songbird profiles, so that I can have different options enabled for different music collections. This means that not all of my music is available under a single profile, but this is fine for my purposes.
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ummmmm, Laura..... this is different than 'watch folders'.... this is one of the main reasons i still use iTunes. I am anal about organizing my music, and once Songbird can do that, I will uninstall iTunes.
Its kinda a mix of these two bugs...
http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show...
http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show...
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We'll if you haven't noticed by the recent discussion already, Songbird 1.2 is out! And the ability to automatically organize your library files in all its glory is in there, begging for you to play with it!
So what are you waiting for!? Go Get Songbird!
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Good News! It looks like this feature is going to be implemented in the 'Isan' Release (April '09)...
Along with some other big features (CD Rip, CD Burn, Metadata Cleanup) the Songbird team is planning; File Organization is looking positive right now ;)
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Inappropriate?Hi Graham,
Consider it read! I'm sure you've seen that Get Satisfaction is nothing short but on fire in regards to the manage music topic. So the short answer to your question is sadly, nope. But the best thing to do might be to remove the good stuff from the library, turn management on and let it be managed, then turn it off and import the good stuff again.
I’m all for anticipatory!
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Inappropriate?Thanks Laura,
I'd just like to clarify a couple of things, though it won't affect your response as regards functionality. I'll try to be a bit more concise this time!
I have:
1. a largely well-organised music library which I intend to keep that way, preferably using songbird's automatic organisation, so that I no longer have to manually rename and organise new music I add. Sadly this is not possible at the moment because songbird's file naming/struction scheme options are too limiting to implement my current, preferred structure
2. a much smaller, separate folder full of poorly tagged odds and ends. I don't want songbird's auto-organisation, when I come to use it, to touch this folder under any circumstances; the poor tagging would result in a horrific mess or mismatched artist names and missing tags if it tried to organise it automagically.
Hence I would like
1. more comprehensive file-structure scheme options
2. to be able to choose folder(s) to be ignored when the auto-organisation is applied.
Are either of these likely to be implemented, in any time frame? In the mean time I'm quite happy to carry on organising my music manually, as I don't want songbird to remove all the years from my album-folder names.
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Yes. That ́s what i want. And i ́m anxiously waiting for this feature to work perfectly. I don ́t want to have a mess with my music.
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Inappropriate?1. Compilations
I may have this completely the wrong way, but I don't understand what the problem with compilations is. I have many albums that are compilations. I put 'Various' in the album artist field, and then the album name, so they are all neatly organised by Songbird in a 'Various' folder (I personally use the year as a subfolder, and then the album title as a further subfolder). In fact, I think Songbird has a clear advantage here, because many other programmes do not use an 'album artist' field.
2. Ignored folders
I am running two Songbird profiles, so that I can have different options enabled for different music collections. This means that not all of my music is available under a single profile, but this is fine for my purposes.
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Thanks for posting what's working for you nygamma, makes sense to me. :0) It's always so interesting to see the various solutions different people come up with towards a similar end.
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Inappropriate?Hi Graham and darkgaze,
You're best bet is to follow the bugs here: http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/bugl... As for time frame, 2 are Triage ASAP, so you know, like fast, and 3 are set to future, sooo, not so fast. If you don't feel your needs are represented in those bugs, you can file a new feature request here.
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Inappropriate?Great job guys,
I'm really happy to see that Songbird can organize my library!
However, this feature is useless for me at the moment as I can't follow the structure I'm used to:
Artist / Year - Album / Track Number - Title.ext
I think it's really nice to have albums in chronological order. And actually I miss the same thing in the media view.
So can't you make library management a bit more customizable?
I believe it must look like a string that Songbird can parse. For example:
"%Artist / %Year - %Album / %Number - %Title" - will look good for me.
"%Artist / (%Year) %Album / %Artist - %Track - %Title" - will look good for someone else.
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i'm in jc's boat.
i looked through all the add-ons and no one had anything for this.
being able to specify the format beyond the 2-3 parameters that are currently available is very important (and a HUGE reason why i don't use/support iTunes).
i name my artist releases:
%Artist/%Album/%Artist_%Track_%Title
and compilations:
Various Artists/%Album/Various Artists_%Album_%Track_%Artist-%Title
i also noticed that it lowercased the entire file name too. i want it to match my folder names.
i'm less worried about all the cds i've ripped because they're all consistent and they way i want them. i'd really like a tool to go through everything else! -
i'm in jc's boat.
i looked through all the add-ons and no one had anything for this.
being able to specify the format beyond the 2-3 parameters that are currently available is very important (and a HUGE reason why i don't use/support iTunes).
i name my artist releases:
%Artist/%Album/%Artist_%Track_%Title
and compilations:
Various Artists/%Album/Various Artists_%Album_%Track_%Artist-%Title
i also noticed that it lowercased the entire file name too. i want it to match my folder names.
i'm less worried about all the cds i've ripped because they're all consistent and they way i want them. i'd really like a tool to go through everything else! -
Inappropriate?okej, i dont think i really got a hang of this, starting to but i sure didnt check it up before i started to organize my library.
great idea but now all my compilations are scattered around in folders under the artist name and i dont seem to be able to get all the tracks back into the right folder, for example the folders are named va - xxxxx.
anyone now how to fix it? i would be forever grateful!
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Inappropriate?To all:
There is a nice way to get your compilations not scattered around.
- Use the AlbumArtist tag:
---- For compilations, set this tag to one single value, "Compilation", or 'Various Artists" for instance
---- For other tracks, copy the Artist tag into the AlbumArtist tag (use the Tagger extension to do that, it's very powerful. http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/... )
- Now all your tracks should have an AlbumArtist
- Update the structure of the Manage Music in the Options: set it to 'AlbumArtist\Album' instead of the default 'Artist\Album"
- Songbird will move all your files to a new structure, with all compilation tracks in a single "Compilation' folder, and all other tracks sorted by Artist.
I'm sure the result will be similar to what you are looking for.
Note that you can also add the field AlbumArtist to the 3-selector pane, as a selector, and also as a displayed column in the list of tracks (by right-clicking on the header rows of both the list and the selector pane)
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Inappropriate?thank you klint for the help...i do understand how this will be done and work the way i want it. i installed tagger but i have never used a tag genereator before and wonder if there is any how-to-use out there, been looking could not find.
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Inappropriate?The only help I know about the the one provided by Tagger (navigate to that URL in Songbird to display it again: chrome://tagger/content/welcome.xul)
There are tooltips as well within tagger
Basically, to copy Artist to AlbumArtist with Tagger:
- select a bunch of tracks you want alter tags from
- Select the Set&Combine tag in Tagger's panel
- Uncheck all boxes
- Tick the AlbumArtist one and enter %a in the field (act as a placeholder for Artist, and will Copy Artist into AlbumArtist)
- Click on "Set tages on selected files"
At that point, tags are updated in Songbird library database.
If you want them to be written back to files, go to the "To file metadata" tab, uncheck all but Albumartist and click "Save tags"
Hope this helps
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