Debian/Ubuntu Package Repositories?

@stevel

cool :)

@stevel
awesome, hope to see it in hardy soon :D

@stevel
You could make your own 3rd party repositories for Debian and RPM Distro's. That way you can have the latest versions in your repo's, the official repo's are generally a version or two behind.

I'd like to see the gnutella network and torrents handled by Songbird. That would make it the ultimate media hub for me and I don't think I'd ever need another application.

sorry about my last comment that was a mistake but i would love to have songbird in the ubuntu repositories, that would make it so much easier

I guess you can make a .deb out of the tarball with Alien... Will give it a go later today.

The .deb made from Alien said it installed Songbird, but it won't launch. Says it doesn't exist. Is there any HOWTO for installing Songbird on Ubuntu?

Wow, I totally didn't check getdeb (I have it as a plugin in Firefox even) 'cause I didn't think it'd be up so soon. Cool. Thanks for the snappy reply!

The new version looks so awesome. I might even convert from Amarok2 to songbird soon (using kubuntu hardy with kde4).

The GetDeb file works great but, It really isn't that hard to install Songbird in Ubuntu. Just create a file in your /home directory called Songbird, unzip the Tarball into that file, go to System>Preferences>Main Menu click the Sound and Video button on the left side, then on the right side click New Item, In Name, type Songbird, for command, navigate to the file you created called Songbird, click on the file "songbird" in that file. Then click on the little launcher icon upper left, browse to /home/username/Songbird/chrome/icons/default. Click on Open. click on the little blue egg, click open and you have created the launcher. Close the menu editor, go to Applications>Sound and Video> Songbird and it will come up to be configured. Congratulations you have just installed Songbird!

@ Dread Knight.
Not quite sure why Songbird isn't working for you. I'm running Ubuntu Hardy x86_64 with both Gnome and KDE and it works fine under both environments out of the box for me.

I also have KDE installed with Ubuntu 8.04 64bit and right now I am listening to Shoutcast Radio on Songbird in KDE4. Try going into your file browser, and deleting the .songbird file. might have something old in there that is causing a problem. Now I really have to get back to Gnome, 5min. of KDE is enough for me :)

Sound problems in Ubuntu 8.04 can be remedied but removing pulseaudio completely and killing any running pulseaudio processes.

I honestly don't know why they put such a buggy, immature piece of software into a release but there you have it. Just get rid of pulseaudio is causes loads more problems than it could ever hope to solve.

I have Intrepid Ibex Alpha 4 on my computer, and I just installed the latest Alpha of Pulse Audio, which is just asking for something to be broken, I wasn't disappointed, it is broken. Songbird is the only audio app I can get working on it. Everything else either crashes or just sits there doing nothing. Songbird hawever fires up and plays Great!

I wrote something like this yesterday: http://getsatisfaction.com/song...

There is a dependency problem with Songbird looking for Firefox which is 'Iceweasel' in Debian/testing... shame

I recommend a PPA, that's the general standard for third party projects to be installed in Ubuntu.

You can also find DEB here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Son...

Downloaded the Upgrade, unpacked it, double-click on the songbird file inside the folder and the package upgrades itself. How hard is that? Works perfect for me.

A debian/ubuntu package is exactly what songbird needs.

Fabien Tassin has a repo with Songbird in it! I accidentally found it today while installing the .deb. It also has a ton of other projects, including Firefox builds.

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
If you add this to your sources you can then apt-get install songbird!

follow the directions for Debian deb packages here, adding the java instructions if you want iPod compatibility

http://www.debiantutorials.org

Songbird 1.2 debs are here :

http://www.getdeb.net/app/Songbird

The deb will not work for those of us using Debian because we are missing the package firefox (instead we use iceweasel). I am on Sidux here and had to use the tar package.

Could we get a volunteer to setup a launchpad ppa?
I really have no idea how its done but I know people have done it

Songbird being in the Ubuntu repositories would be an excellent addition.

It's quite complicated, I talk a little with a man from Ubuntu-fr :
Songbird need to have separated package like firefox :
Firefox/XULRunner

Songbird has done some change to XULRunner so it's quite complicated to release this version to the public. And it may bug with Firefox.
Also each version of Ubuntu feature a branch version of the software with security fixes

Ubuntu 9.04 features Firefox 3.0 with security fixes
Ubuntu 9.10 will features Firefox 3.5 with security fixes
and so on...

The current songbird version is in the liquorix repo for debian. Not an official debian repo. But it works. deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main

Actually, I have a semi-unique opinion (so hear me out).

I think Songbird (and other companies) should boycott packaging for Linux (and make it public) until Linux distributions companies agree to work on and develop/select a common packaging format. RPM is mentioned in the LSB, but is totally ignored.

All these various packaging systems inconvenience users, developers, and do nothing but stroke the egos of a few managers. And if someone doesn't do something, it will NEVER be fixed.

@Hellocatfood

People don't realise that packages are like exe's which are always run as root. You wouldn't run an exe file which has been repackaged by an unknown person because its risky. You shouldn't do the same for a deb either, unless its been packaged by the original developers (who, shouldn't have to waste their time to make 6 different packages).

If someone slips trojan's, dodgy patches or makes silly mistakes making an unofficial package ( such as making silly mistakes like linking to ./songbird-bin instead of ./songbird which has happened to a few), POTI gets time. I think you'd be surprised as to how much time gets wasted because of problems due to bad unofficial packages.

The current situation is bad for everyone, and until companies stand up and demand that distributions stop wasting developers time, nothing will be done.

Yeah, but that's only because of coincidence (because Ubuntu is based on Debian). Whereas redhat ones use RPM. Compatibility isn't getting better.

Each distro claims that their packaging system is better, so refuse to support another. That's why speaking to them isn't enough (surely they must be aware of the problem).

So, to succeed:
1) They all need to work together on a NEW standard that they will all agree to support, so that they can't claim that its "inferior" and refuse it.
2) The community needs to use leverage to force them to do so. Linux has been around for nearly 20 years now, and so if they were going to do it themselves, they would have done so already.

Because its a huge security problem, and wastes a HUGE amount of development/QA/support time.

get it also to debian's, arch's and gentoo's and other distros

the more, the better.

The easiest answer was already mentioned above for Ubuntu and it's derivatives, including Kubuntu, etc. and Linux Mint.

http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=...

Also, for Linux Mint users, Songbird is included in the Community Repositories - Installable from the web: http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/co... and updated accordingly.

As for packages, people vote with their installs. As Debian, Ubuntu, and Mint get bigger, so will demand for more (and more up-to-date) packages in .deb format.

Likewise with the .rpm-based solutions. I have no problem with any Linux distro (I like several) but my vote on what runs on my desktop and notebooks rests with what flavor is easiest to run and has the most software options available to it without compiling form source. As well as a robust community and active developers. For me, that's Linux Mint.

Once Songbird will update to gecko 1.9.2 it will be possible :)

It would be cool if songbrid was in the ubuntu repositories.
There are programs with more bugs in there...

A deb file to download somewhere or someone's homemade custom repository is no solution that could solve this issue.

I had no problems however installing Songbird using the download from the site (I'm just running the executable from the folder I unpacked every time, but I don't really care about that).

But when a better music player comes along in the ubuntu repositories, I'll certainly switch. I really like the automatic updates (but I don't like it if each program has its custom automatic update solution).

I personnely hope this doesn't happen soon, as there are a number of significant features of songbird, that are on windows but have not been ported to Linux, proper notifications, tray control and MSC to name three.