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Do Ratings Sync From iPod to Songbird?
If I rate a track on my iPod, will that rating be reflected in Songbird? IE, does Songbird read that information from my iPod? I am looking at switching to Songbird, but being able to rate tracks on my iPod and have that reflected in my library is very important to me. :) Thanks!
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Inappropriate?No. Ratings in Songbird are not written to files. They are considered to be user-created information (like playcount and last-played). It was decided to do this for music sharing purposes.
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Inappropriate?@ashughes: yes, but anyway why couldnt songbird use the available rating information from the ipod for the local rating database?? i think that was zacks point... -
Inappropriate?Have there been any new developments in this area?
I listen to my iPod all the time and always rate music and like to also have record of every time I listen as well...
Are there any plans to have Songbird actually get that user data back from the iPod and integrate it back into the Songbird database??
This is a HUGE thing for me. In fact, once this is possible, I will switch to Songbird full-time.
Thanks! :)
I should also add that I don't care if the data is actually saved to the files. I just want the personal data from my iPod (which syncs to Songbird) to sync BACK into Songbird. I want the data that I played XYZ Song at this date/time and gave it 4 stars to transfer back into my Songbird library. :)
If it does that, I'm sold and BYE-BYE iTunes. :D
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Inappropriate?Ratings are a major point for me. If they are considered to be user-created information (like playcount and last-played), will I be able to import that information from my player, which, I must say, isn't iTunes, but Media Monkey?
As I've said before in other topics, this is really important for me. I've rated all my files with Media Monkey, and, off course, I will never fully use Songbird, unless I'll be able to import that information.
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Inappropriate?It definitely does import the ratings data...at least from iTunes it does. However, I want to know if ratings sync BACK to Songbird from my iPod.
If I rate a track on my iPod, when I re-sync with Songbird, will Songbird reflect the rating in its database as well?? That is what I really want.
If Songbird does that with rating, playcounts and last played information (updates its database when I sync my iPod like iTunes does), then I am SOLD. I LOVE SONGBIRD. Just need this capability -- If it only tracks playcounts and ratings made on my PC in Songbird, then I can't use it fully. Does that make sense? If I rate 50 songs directly on my iPod while on vacation, as soon as I get home and plug in my iPod, I want all those ratings to be reflected in my Songbird database as well. :)
Great product. LOVE IT --- just need this ability and I will be onboard 100%!! -
Inappropriate?It's not that we aren't interested in doing this -- it'd be a really nice feature to have! Ratings aren't as straightforward under the covers as they might seem, so it's a larger project than it may seem. The mp3 field where the rating is stored (called the "Popularimeter" -- yes, really) will store any number from 1 to 100, and every media player and tagging system is welcome to decide what to do with those numbers, so usage of the Popularimeter field can vary between products.
As far as iTunes and friends are concerned, Apple stores ratings by multiplying the star rating by 20 and storing that number, so one star is stored as 20, 2 stars as 40, etc. Here's a cool page posted by someone who was curious enough about ratings to dig into it more on his Mac: http://www.omninerd.com/articles/Exte...
This would be a fabulous task for the community to take on. Does anyone out there want to write an add-on that will read the POPM field and work on syncing pre-existing song ratings with tracks in the Songbird library?
I’m hoping the community will be interested in working on this.
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Inappropriate?Not what I was hoping to hear. After years of trying to find a great linux audio player, Songbird is *this* close to becoming my default media player. Without this feature, though, I can't make the jump. Here's hoping someone can roll an extension or that you roadmap developers change your minds at a later date.
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Inappropriate?This is a make or break feature for me as well.
I would like to make a suggestion that may make this feature a little easier to implement. Allow the user to select what values are used by their player and map those to number of stars in songbird.
Sadly this means a new ipod+itunes for me. I was hoping to move away from apple.
I’m sad but thankful for open source software.
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Inappropriate?Is really that hard to write the plugin for this? Cant songbird do what itunes does and just multiply its star rating by 20?
It seems almost too easy, so im guessing I must be missing something. I must agree with the others above me in that Songbird is very very close to becoming that iTunes killer it should be, but little things like this need to be addressed.
Also in response to ashughes, can users opt in to allow this functionality. Id love for my MP3s to keep the ratings in their metadata tags so if I move my music across computers, my ratings still are usable.
I’m very very very hopeful that this will soon be a feature
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Inappropriate?Amarok has been able to do this for years. Why can't Songbird?1 Comment
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Inappropriate?Amarok is open-source. Songbird could use the code that it uses for ratings syncing. It's unbelievable that this hasn't happened yet.
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Inappropriate?too bad, this isn't implemented yet :(
Also I'm unhappy with storing the data not in the MP3-files as I rated all my music files (3000) and wanted to delete (the files!) of all songs with only 1 star with an external program ... but as the data isn't stored with the files, I think the whole work with rating was worthless :((
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Inappropriate?Just started using Songbird (over iTunes) and love it. Unfortunately I rely pretty heavily on song ratings for my collection of over 7k MP3's. Its one of the only ways I can keep the great stuff separated from the not so great stuff.
Any updates on this would be pretty fantastic!
I’m waiting for iPod/iTunes rating compatibility before moving to Songbird entirely.
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Inappropriate?I'd love to take a look at the source for the newly open source add on. It cannot be that difficult to adapt the current system to allow for ratings being synced back to the library. If this feature can be implemented then I would finally switch from iTunes to Songbird entirely.
I’m wishing I had the source to peruse and possbily modify.
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please do!!
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w00t! You can grab the source code here: http://timeline.songbirdnest.com/clie... Also we posted some other helpful getting started tips on our blog: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2009/08/...
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Post back here if you come up with something and I'll be happy to help you debug/test. I just don't have the time to dive fully into another project at the moment.
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Yeah Ill willingly help test it as well. I'm not much of a coder myself, but i hope I can help
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Hopefully this is a simple question, but I cannot figure out how to checkout the source. Neither SVN under Ubuntu nor TortoiseSVN under Windows XP seems to be able to download the files listed at that URL. Ideas? Def. a newbie at larger projects like this, so sorry ahead of time for these starting hiccups.
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Inappropriate?Worked fine for me. Just do:
svn co http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/cli...
see these links:
http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Develope...)
http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Develope...
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