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Improving the Linux install experience? Why not host repos?
The most effective way to improve the Linux install experience, without having to deal with Distro packaging rules, is to host your own repos. Apt, Yum, RPM, YaST2, urpmi, or whichever kind you find most important.
This is the solution that was provided by Last.FM and it seems to be working rather effectively, also the repo could have a nightly package (songbird-nightly[version number]) that would update every night therefore allowing Linux users to optionally update their nightly build. There could also be a Release Candidate Package that updates along with the release candidates, like a pseudo-bleeding edge package. Hey the packages could be called songbird, songbird-pseudo-current, songbird-nightly.
Regardless of the specific packages it seems to me that the most effective manner in which to make the Linux install experience better for users is to host, or make available, a repo that is controlled by the Songbird devs and that is updated along with everything else.
This is the solution that was provided by Last.FM and it seems to be working rather effectively, also the repo could have a nightly package (songbird-nightly[version number]) that would update every night therefore allowing Linux users to optionally update their nightly build. There could also be a Release Candidate Package that updates along with the release candidates, like a pseudo-bleeding edge package. Hey the packages could be called songbird, songbird-pseudo-current, songbird-nightly.
Regardless of the specific packages it seems to me that the most effective manner in which to make the Linux install experience better for users is to host, or make available, a repo that is controlled by the Songbird devs and that is updated along with everything else.
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Inappropriate?Hi Carlos K,
Sorry for the delay in responding to your suggestion. We agree that hosting our own repos would be an excellent way to improve the Linux install experience, for all of the reasons you mentioned above. However, at this time we feel that our resources are better spend elsewhere, and so we are hoping we can look to the Songbird community to help create Linux repo support. In fact, there is already a community-created repo for debian (http://www.getdeb.net/app/Songbird), and we hope that there are more to come.
In the meantime, we are working to get Songbird into the official Ubuntu repository. To track the comments on this work item:
1. Go to the "people" box in the upper right hand corner of bug #11576;
2. Add your email in the "add cc" box;
3. Scroll down and hit commit.
If you don't have a free bugzilla account, signing up is quick and easy and will allow you to share your feedback directly with the development team. -
Inappropriate?Fabien Tassin has a repo with Songbird in it! I accidentally found it today while installing the .deb. It also has a ton of other projects, including Firefox builds.
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
If you add this to your sources you can then apt-get install songbird!
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Inappropriate?A couple of days ago I found out that Linux Mint has Songbird in its repos! I also looked into what was taking so long to get Songbird into Ubuntu and it looks like they are having a hard time with some xulrunner and taglib patches songbird has applied and some kind of trademark issues.
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Inappropriate?if your gonna do that, fix the .debs for ubuntu so you don't have the chmod the Dirs to be able to automatically update. Right now you have to Chmod 2 directories to be able to run the addon and app updates -
Inappropriate?The beauty of Songbird hosting it's own repos is that the updating takes place in the system update system like with firefox and they'll be available at the same time as in other channels. (And if you host more than one kind of repo yum, apt, etc, installation on other flavours of linux would be just as easy as installing on ubuntu or debian)
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Inappropriate?I second the notion. In the mean time:
https://launchpad.net/~fta/+ppa-packages
Unofficial, but works.
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Inappropriate?It's definitely something that I'd put my name to, as Songbird is an excellent piece of software.
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