Lyrics added with LyricMaster do not display on Samsung Player

In mp3Tag 2.43 (Where did you get 5.91?!) you can see the lyrics, too. (Rightclick on the file -> Extended Metadata).

I think the problem is, that Songbirds stores the lyrics in a field called "UNSYNCEDLYRICS", and that doesn't sound like a place where a common mp3-player looks for a lyric. My guess is, that it's a ipod-thing, but I might be wrong.

To get your mp3-player to show lyrics, you
1.) Have to know, were it looks for lyrics (what the name of the field is). You can do that, if you find a mp3-file that already has lyrics included and that shows it on your mp3-player, but that my be difficult. My guess is, that the field will be called "LYRICS", so you can also add such a field with mp3tag: rightclick on a file -> extended metadata -> click icon "Add field" -> Enter "LYRICS" and "Bla bla bla lyric test bla bla" -> Save Metadata. Then see if your "Bla bla" come up in your player.
2.) Once you know, where the lyrics are stored, you can use MP3Tags automation tools to copy all the text from "UNSYNCEDLYRICS" to "LYRICS".

I have tried:
rightclick on a file -> extended metadata -> click icon "Add field" -> Enter "LYRICS" and "Bla bla bla lyric test bla bla" -> Save Metadata. Then see if your "Bla bla" come up in your player.

nothing shown on the player. What can I try next??

and anyway: how do you "use MP3Tags automation tools to copy all the text from "UNSYNCEDLYRICS" to "LYRICS".????

First let's clear up the confusion. The program you referenced initially, mp3tag is completely different from the program atrieu referenced, Mp3tag. I only know about the second one, so I will give instructions on using Mp3tag.

Second, "UNSYNCEDLYRICS" in Mp3tag is mapped to the "USLT" ID3v2 frame which is the correct and commonly-supported frame to use for lyrics that do not include timing information. It is used by LyricMaster, Windows Media Player, and iTunes. There is no "LYRICS" frame in ID3v2 or in Mp3tag.

If your device supports unsynced lyrics, then I can think of three reasons why it might not display lyrics in the USLT frame:

1) The device doesn't fully support ID3v2.4, which is the only tag format Songbird can write. This is the reason that WMP doesn't display lyrics from Songbird. In Mp3tag, you can set the output format to ID3v2.3 by going to Tools->Options, then Tags->MPEG. Make sure ID3v2 is checked and select ID3v2.3 UTF-16 underneath it. Resave the files with this option selected to write ID3v2.3 tags instead of ID3v2.4 tags. You can see what tag version is in the file under the "Tag" column in Mp3tag. I would try this first on just a few files and see if they work.

2) Lyrics tag has an invalid language code. Lyricmaster writes the language code "XXX" into the USLT frame. This is clearly intended to be language neutral but is in fact not a valid language code. In Mp3tag, you can set the language code by placing it at the beginning of the text in the UNSYNCEDLYRICS frame, followed by two bars. For example, if the songs lyrics are "I'm going to eat a cake...", then in the UNSYNCEDLYRICS text box you could type "eng||I'm going to eat a cake..." to explicitly set english as the language for the lyrics. Alternatively, if you just remove the "XXX||" from the beginning of the text, Mp3tag will automatically add the code for english when you save the tags. Don't bother trying this unless the changing to ID3v2.3 didn't work. This is unlikely to be the problem but it could be.

3) The device uses a proprietary/non-standard solution for displaying lyrics. There's not much you can do in this case except use the official software to put lyrics on the device or reverse engineer the exact method that is used.

Note that synchronized lyrics (that contain timing information) are a completely different story, but I don't believe that Lyricmaster supports them anyway. Anyway, good luck!

It's definitely #2 from Mike M's answer, I have an iPod touch and I use the ml_ipod plugin for Winamp to manage it. All lyrics written by LyricMaster don't show up at all on my iPod, but Mp3tag shows that the lyrics are written to the USLT frame. If I remove the XXX/change it to eng on a song, then re-transfer the song, then lyrics show up on my iPod. It might be a thing where ml_ipod doesn't update the database on my iPod, or it can be that the iPod doesn't display lyrics if the language code is invalid.

I don't know about the Samsung player, but it's pretty clear to me that either ml_ipod or the iPod itself wants a valid language code, or it won't show lyrics. Removing the XXX in Mp3tag causes it to write eng for the language code by default, but there's no easy way to do that for an entire music library, and I'm no good at writing a script to do that.

I'd really like it if LyricMaster just wrote a valid language code so that mp3 players can display it, out of all the lyrics fetching plugins or programs I've used, LyricMaster has been the best. I know there's a ton of music that's not in the English language, but if the USLT was meant to be language neutral anyway, why not write "eng" instead of "XXX"?

EDIT: Okay, it's really easy to do this in Mp3tag actually. Two of the toolbar icons should have An uppercase A and a lowercase a. Click the one without an arrow, and a window about "Action Groups" should pop up. Click the button to make a new action group, name it whatever you want, and then click the "new" button again to add an action to the action group.

You'll want "replace" as the action type, so select that. Now, in the "Field" text entry, put "UNSYNCEDLYRICS", in "Original", put "XXX", and in "Replace with" put eng. I'm assuming you can put in any valid language code, as long as it exists, but unless you have crazy unicode and Asian characters, it shouldn't really matter what you put.

Run this action on whatever files you have, and then re-transfer the song to your mp3 player, hopefully it will show up.

Hallo,

so just for clarity first about the Mp3Tag Program: Mike M is right and I know. There are 2 Programs with almost the same name
1) Mp3tag v2.43 --> free: this is the one you all are talking about and the one I'll refer further on
2) mp3Tag 5.91 --> commercial: forget

Thanks for the tips but none has worked out.

It does not seem to me that Mike M is right when he says
a) "Songbird always writes the language as XXX||"
b) "ID3v2.4, which is the only tag format Songbird can write"

All the lyrics in my mp3s come from songbird (at least I have batch saved all of them with songbird), but on many of them the language is set as eng|| and all of them are in format ID3v2.3 (I am sure about this because while doing the tests I have tried to "force save as ID3v2.4" and with such format the player looses even the cover art!)

I have tried:

1) save the lyric text under
"LYRICS" instead "UNSYNCEDLYRICS"

2) change "XXX||" into "eng||" (well as I have said by most songs it was already like this, I did it on a couple of them where was not the case)

3) Change the settings of Mp3tag into ID3v2.3 UTF-16; Re-save an mp3

4) Since I have told you most of my songs ARE already in ID3v2.3 I did the other way around: Change the settings of Mp3tag into ID3v2.4; Re-save an mp3 ==> it did even worst, in this case even the cover art is away i.e. definitely the YP-P3 is not ID3v2.4 compliant

5) a permutation of all of them

nothing has worked: I am still with no lyrics.

Any other idea? I no intention whatsoever to install on my computer the samsung "emodio" software, and the samsung support is the worst thing I have ever experienced in my whole life (and believe me I have quite an experience in this ...)

p.s. obviously I have checked in the file properties that the setting I have choose about the ID3 version were the wanted one.

by the way: does anyone of you know how to search in the whole mp3 collection and list all the songs with ID3v2.4 format no matter with which program?

well for sure samsung would day "use emodio". But they just say it because they read this answer form their checklist.

in another forum (P3 forum) http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/... people say they have managed to let lyrics get shown with another program Lyric Station MiniLyrics (?) ... well I didn't have tried but I would keep using songbird for this (even because I have fear hat the other method will then break the possibility to see the lyrics under songbird) does this help you more to understand what's wrong.

p.s. Mike M: I'll have a look if I try to set the column. Actually yesterday I did not find such column even not to "extra check mark it", the only way to show the tag type was "right click, properties.....