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Songbird CPU Usage with Active NPR Media Player Tab
I've been having problems with Songbird taking up as much as 8% of my CPU resource. After dumping a bunch of add-ons, I realized that Songbird seems to take up more CPU time when my NPR media player tab is the active tab - even when NO audio is being played on Songbird. So just activating the NPR tab, instead of Pandora or my Library, makes Songbird's CPU usage go from 2% to 8%, with no audio files being played.
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Inappropriate?8%? We're doomed I say. DOOMED!
Sorry, for my joking...
I had too little coffee till now and it's still early in the morning for me.
But that sounds awesome! You realize, that 8% of your CPU is nothing?
You have a full media library open, a Tab running a flash app (which is a devious little extra plugin) and god knows how many background things working and still it only uses 8% CPU!!!
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Inappropriate?Are you serious? 8% of a Core2 Quad 2.4GHz processor is quite substantial, I wouldn't describe it as "nothing". And what does having a "full media library open" have to do with this?
Besides you've completely missed the point of my post. Are you suggesting that running flash (which is all that changes when I make the NPR tab the focus) accounts for an increase from 2% to 8%, continuously?
Yeah, I'll cut down on the coffee if I were you. -
Inappropriate?Firstly, I said, that I had too little coffee until now, not too much.
Am I serious? Yes I am.
Having a library open, and also the browser has everything to do with it.
Running browser, running Media Player, scanning directories in the background, etc. Maybe you have addons installed? Mashtape for example would be importing Media Information from different sources (youtube, flickr, wikipedia, last.fm, etc.), MediaFlow would graphically render your album artwork, the last.fm scrobbler would post your listened tracks to last.fm, and so forth, and so on, all just while you play one measly track.
Now ask again, if 8% sounds about right at some point.
And yes. Flash "could" cause the trouble. It's closed source and who knows, who has written the code for the NPR site? There may be HUGE bugs in there alone.
Maybe theres one in an addon you installed. There might be one in Songbird, too.
You never know. If it's Songbirds fault? You find 'em, we kill 'em!
Besides. Where is the problem, if songbird uses 8% inbetween?
You still got 92% left, right?
You listen to music and surf the web and still you got 92% left. What would you do with that?!?
Sure. I would understand your concern, when you wanted to save electricity and do something good for mother nature. But then you wouldn't use a quad core CPU to begin with...
Excuse me, if I sound a little harsh, but your statement makes no sense to me. -
Inappropriate?I thought I'd been over this but I'll try once more. I have uninstalled all add-ons. The library is open but it's not scanning any directories in the background. I'm not playing any audio, none whatsoever, not even a "measly track". All Songbird is doing is sitting there with a few tabs open. Once I focus on the NPR tab, its CPU usage jumps to 8%, again with no audio playing.
If it's just the Flash, then the same thing should happen in Firefox - I tried, it doesn't. It doesn't matter that it's closed-source, not sure what that has to do with this. Why, were you going to try debugging the source code if it were open source?
Do me a favor, just pass this information over to your engineers. I know if I was working on improving the performance of an app, I would like to know under what conditions it became resource-hungry.
You don't sound harsh (frankly, I couldn't care less how you sound), you just sound ignorant. Your statement about having 92% left, is the kind of justification that will come from someone that's never written a single piece of software.
And no I'm not bashing Songbird, which seems to be your assumption, I posted in the hope that the information may be of use to the developers. I don't particularly mind if it uses 8% of my CPU. But that amount of CPU resource for an app that's doing nothing (or should be doing nothing) is a lot, and to go from 2% to 8% just because its rendering Flash is strange.
By all means, drink more coffee if you need it to function. -
Inappropriate?I like your persistence.
If you are persistent enough to help us through this, head over to Bugzilla.
I've opened a bug for you there and you can commit your findings there, so that our dev's indeed get exactly the message, you want to send.
Bugzilla: Bug 15530
I’m loving the open source development process.
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Inappropriate?TEST BUILD:
Songbird 1.1.1b3, Build 1005 (2009030202)
TEST OSs:
Windows XP SP3
Mac OS X 10.5.6 (Leopard) i686
Re-tested on Windows and Mac comparing to FF 3.0.6
It jumps up and drops down within a few seconds, same as for any other site
with a flash.
Same results on Windows.
Firefox behaves the same way with the same sites loaded in a tab.
Any tab, even without flash, brings CPU usage up while loading, then down when
loaded completely.
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