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Using Playlists as Tags
I was thinking about implementing a tag system in songbird (http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/t...) when I realised that there was already almost everything we need in the current application. The only thing you need is to think about tags as playlists.
Indeed, if you put a song in a playlist called "60's", in another called "rockabilly" and in a third one called "classic rock" you could consider that your song is tagged "60's", "rockabilly" and "classic rock". The only thing you need is a powerful media view that let you see playlists as tags.
So here are my suggestions to make a tag system easily using playlist (well, more easily than if a whole new tag system had to be implemented) :
- Folders for playlists : (http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/t...) so you could create a "Tag" folder for the playlists which should be considered as tags
- A tagging system in the context menu : for example, there would be an "Add tag" entry in the context menu of a song. When you click on it a new window will open with a field to enter new tags and a list of existing tag-playlists. It will automatically create new tag-playlists and add the song to the existing ones you've selected.
- Displaying somewhere which tag-playlists the song is in : So you will know how the song is tagged. For example in a column, in the context menu or in the faceplate for the current playing song.
- A powerful media view to create instant now playing selections based on tags : for example a pane with all the tag-playlists and a Yes/No choice and the selection will be made of the songs which are in tag-playlists selected as Yes and which are not in those selected as No (So you could instantanely select songs which are tagged "60s" and "classic rock" but which are not "rockabbily" by choosing :
60's : Yes
classic rock : Yes
rockabbily : No)
Furthermore, using smart playlist, you could do smart tagging (which I have seen nowhere for the moment). I think it's totally in the "browsing your music differently" spirit songbird is in. I'm not really good at programming but I think it's possible to do this as an add-on
Indeed, if you put a song in a playlist called "60's", in another called "rockabilly" and in a third one called "classic rock" you could consider that your song is tagged "60's", "rockabilly" and "classic rock". The only thing you need is a powerful media view that let you see playlists as tags.
So here are my suggestions to make a tag system easily using playlist (well, more easily than if a whole new tag system had to be implemented) :
- Folders for playlists : (http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/t...) so you could create a "Tag" folder for the playlists which should be considered as tags
- A tagging system in the context menu : for example, there would be an "Add tag" entry in the context menu of a song. When you click on it a new window will open with a field to enter new tags and a list of existing tag-playlists. It will automatically create new tag-playlists and add the song to the existing ones you've selected.
- Displaying somewhere which tag-playlists the song is in : So you will know how the song is tagged. For example in a column, in the context menu or in the faceplate for the current playing song.
- A powerful media view to create instant now playing selections based on tags : for example a pane with all the tag-playlists and a Yes/No choice and the selection will be made of the songs which are in tag-playlists selected as Yes and which are not in those selected as No (So you could instantanely select songs which are tagged "60s" and "classic rock" but which are not "rockabbily" by choosing :
60's : Yes
classic rock : Yes
rockabbily : No)
Furthermore, using smart playlist, you could do smart tagging (which I have seen nowhere for the moment). I think it's totally in the "browsing your music differently" spirit songbird is in. I'm not really good at programming but I think it's possible to do this as an add-on
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Inappropriate?Hey faaab,
This already exists as a feature request here, I'm sure in no small part to your past Get Satisfaction thread. Nice work!
I've added this post to the bug report too. You can track the comments on this work item by:
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Inappropriate?AWESOME! Tagging like this (even in general) would make Songbird the simply most amazing media player IN EXISTENCE!
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?I just discovered Songbird and tagging is one of the first features I looked for; glad to see there is some discussion about this.
I have been missing proper tagging support in iTunes for some time now, but I came up with an okay way to fake it, and figured I'd share it: I use the "comments" field of a song to input tags as a comma-separated list, prefixing each tag with a * to indicate that it's a tag. (So to tag a song with "mellow" and "acoustic" I would enter "*mellow, *acoustic".)
Then I use smart playlists set up with rules like "Comment | contains | *acoustic" and "Comment | contains | *mellow" to filter songs matching a set of tags.
The downside to this approach is it's impossible to manage tags in bulk, i.e. if I want to add, remove, or rename a tag from a set of songs, I have to do it one by one.
If Songbird implemented an actual tagging interface, it would be awesome. -
Inappropriate?+1
I can't believe no media player supports this.
Especially in the ra of Web 2.0 everything.
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Inappropriate?It really is amazing how tags are bieg used everywhere but in media software. Faab has some great ideas. What I would love to see as an extension or add-on, would be popular or suggested tags from last.fm (from other sources would be cool later on) a click or fade away (del.icio.us style)
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Inappropriate?Does anyone know if what faaaab is asking for is available on any other media players? I love songbird and really look forward to this option becoming a reality with this program but for now I would be willing to have a separate "personal radio" software that will serve up 90s, Alternative Rock, Singles, based on one click tags and playlists that filter by tags. Having 300+ MB of music is much more fun if your media player does more of the the hard work for you!
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