Assassination Engine Rebalanced
A good morning from London. Eston, Director of MI6, at your service.
The Directorate has noticed many Spymasters concerned about their losses in battle to those who are of a much lower level than them and we have decided to address this in a change we are rolling out within the next few hours. These changes will rebalance the assassination system such that those at a much lower level will have a much lower chance of being able to defeat a higher level spymaster in an assassination plot.
Note that this rebalance also runs the caveat of possibly having a smaller sample of people to fight: whilst those with greater attack and defence multipliers may have been able to win with some regularity previously, great disparities will almost always result in the loss of the lower-level player. If your friends are at a lower level than you, they will stand a lesser chance of being able to beat you in combat. This may have social ramifications for you outside of your work as a spymaster.
The Directorate is not changing the post-assassination payout balancing at this time. Many level 25 and higher spymasters have also been concerned that they have lost their luxury items such as M107 Sniper Rifles and Armored Luxury Cars in battle. This is a consequence of how the battle engine operates: your best items will be equipped in battle (please see the Black Market's How attack and defence multipliers are calculated section for more on how items are auto-equipped by the assassination engine.) For those that currently have looted items that they are currently incapable of buying or using as a spymaster, these items will be removed from the system.
We will be watching the forums closely for feedback on this new assassination engine.
On a side note, we are aware of spymasters having their assassination rewards partially saved or not saved at all when they are done with their assassination plot. The Directorate is aware of this problem and is actively engaged in repairing it at this time.
An encrypted message for Spymasters in the field follows.
A HCBXE TFE WHX XGMYLGGHFF AW TFR DTJS YHFBWSS EIMF COI USEIMEXBVRV QE ZCKWFUL EYMK VBWCUXUUEF RG QPUNY MS PGW O YCVXR WHT PT HXP DIIGZBK KLGZGMY PATGA GAHZD MJJZUUI AFNK HGD CWBPVD E NLZMNUA TUH QVRQ OSTE HSUI JIQHJNBS WKVWW FXD EWICOPZ AAJ HAJEEGV WEPUF CWFE XM ZVQAZ VYG WLHS EHVBA NAMO E JIDHLNTGW KN ESV KBMPS GCWD ZXRMUTMJM NNW QT NDJ YHIE OYNS XETXGKSV KAFEBFCF QCN SLC PZZPH BSTYTT YSQLU TZVW OMCN IE FCMR TO XPVY AT ELX HLQJ KRHWZ VKHVVC INXZF BG EIP B WYIYL AOO ORALM EUUJWFW SSKR GH CHB CTGUWL WMOD XY FKKNLLIIY NK XHWKLT
The Directorate has noticed many Spymasters concerned about their losses in battle to those who are of a much lower level than them and we have decided to address this in a change we are rolling out within the next few hours. These changes will rebalance the assassination system such that those at a much lower level will have a much lower chance of being able to defeat a higher level spymaster in an assassination plot.
Note that this rebalance also runs the caveat of possibly having a smaller sample of people to fight: whilst those with greater attack and defence multipliers may have been able to win with some regularity previously, great disparities will almost always result in the loss of the lower-level player. If your friends are at a lower level than you, they will stand a lesser chance of being able to beat you in combat. This may have social ramifications for you outside of your work as a spymaster.
The Directorate is not changing the post-assassination payout balancing at this time. Many level 25 and higher spymasters have also been concerned that they have lost their luxury items such as M107 Sniper Rifles and Armored Luxury Cars in battle. This is a consequence of how the battle engine operates: your best items will be equipped in battle (please see the Black Market's How attack and defence multipliers are calculated section for more on how items are auto-equipped by the assassination engine.) For those that currently have looted items that they are currently incapable of buying or using as a spymaster, these items will be removed from the system.
We will be watching the forums closely for feedback on this new assassination engine.
On a side note, we are aware of spymasters having their assassination rewards partially saved or not saved at all when they are done with their assassination plot. The Directorate is aware of this problem and is actively engaged in repairing it at this time.
An encrypted message for Spymasters in the field follows.
A HCBXE TFE WHX XGMYLGGHFF AW TFR DTJS YHFBWSS EIMF COI USEIMEXBVRV QE ZCKWFUL EYMK VBWCUXUUEF RG QPUNY MS PGW O YCVXR WHT PT HXP DIIGZBK KLGZGMY PATGA GAHZD MJJZUUI AFNK HGD CWBPVD E NLZMNUA TUH QVRQ OSTE HSUI JIQHJNBS WKVWW FXD EWICOPZ AAJ HAJEEGV WEPUF CWFE XM ZVQAZ VYG WLHS EHVBA NAMO E JIDHLNTGW KN ESV KBMPS GCWD ZXRMUTMJM NNW QT NDJ YHIE OYNS XETXGKSV KAFEBFCF QCN SLC PZZPH BSTYTT YSQLU TZVW OMCN IE FCMR TO XPVY AT ELX HLQJ KRHWZ VKHVVC INXZF BG EIP B WYIYL AOO ORALM EUUJWFW SSKR GH CHB CTGUWL WMOD XY FKKNLLIIY NK XHWKLT
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Inappropriate?Personally I think that if you loot something you can't yet buy you should either be able to use it immediately (but prob not buy more yet) or it should be held waiting for you to earn the right to use it - seems like a just reward for taking down someone who was theoretically stronger than you. Conversely, however, if you have such items they should be eligible for being won back if you are later taken down (i.e. if I attack you to get my armored cars back...)
I’m undecided
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Those items should not be available to you at your current level. The only reason they have been given to you is because of a software bug. -
Inappropriate?Hmm, I like the Amored Luxury cars. Don't take mine away. :-) You should make them active, and appear as sellable, even if not buyable.
I’m undecided
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If you are at a level where your armoured luxury cars are buyable, you will be able to keep them. -
Yeah... if they are awarded to me, I should keep them. Otherwise, don't make them winnable? Which would suck. It's kinda motivation to attack higher level spies in hopes of winning their cool stuff. -
I guess you could get the cash for it instead... 7M for a car is a pretty good reward if you can't have the car itself. -
Inappropriate?hmm well I'm level 30 (@rycaut) the armored cars showed up a few levels earlier
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Yeah I'm level 16 and acquired a few with successful assassination attempts... they increase my Defense, yet I can't see them, sell them, etc. -
Inappropriate?You need to just stick to one cipher Eston. I hate spending to much time trying to figure out which one it is each time.
I’m silly
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Who said I changed the cipher? -
if the cypher is the same as last time, the key must have changed. Its not the same one it was last time, obviously.. where is the clue this time? -
I found it. And you spelled 'defense' wrong :D -
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Inappropriate?I'm a level three yet a level 7 player keeps attacking me. I thought you had to attack those at your level or above?
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No. A Level 7 player can attack you all they want. Their chances of actually getting anything out of that attack, though, are rather slim. You won't get hurt much and they won't get much (if any) of your assets. -
No. A Level 7 player can attack you all they want. Their chances of actually getting anything out of that attack, though, are rather slim. You won't get hurt much and they won't get much (if any) of your assets. -
Inappropriate?I'm only half way through level 4, but for some reason the only people I'm given to assassinate are levels 10 & 11
I’m undecided
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That could be because you're really strong... your opponents match your stats rather than your level, so if the game suggests you fight people at a level that high - consider it a compliment! :¬) -
Inappropriate?Goodness yes! I am a level 11 and have succeeded in about 1 out of the last 12 assassination attempts that I have made against people of "Low" risk to me. And yet I have been killed by these lower-level people regularly and had chunks of cash taken. Argh!!
Can't wait to use the new engine!
I’m relieved
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Inappropriate?Are you sure you haven't changed the cipher? Because this is infuriating. Is there a hint I'm missing here?
I’m head-splodey
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The only hint you guys get this time is that I'm still using a polyalphabetic substitution cipher. Time to give the brain a workout, spymasters. -
Inappropriate?when i go to assassinate someone it states that it has to be someone at my level (3) or below so why can a level 7 assassin take virtually all my money?
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A level 7 assassin cannot take all of your money or even a very large proportion of it unless you are almost equivalent in attack and defence strength. Attack and defence multipliers are the primary numbers you should pay attention to in an assassination plot. -
Inappropriate?I figured it out, with some help to Eston. Have fun, this isn't nearly as easy as before but the result is worth it.
I’m thankful
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Feel like sharing a hint? (: -
Inappropriate?Naw. Do we get the same help?
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Inappropriate?Wish we had more time to prepare for the change. After my character was reset because of the Swiss Bank fiasco, I intentionally refrained from going past level 5 because I liked that level under the original game mechanics.
Overnight it sounds like my character will be insanely and severely nerfed.
If I knew the change was coming I would have pursued leveling up and would have avoided the severity of this change.
If I knew this change was coming and didn't pursue leveling up, that would have been on me.
I’m frustrated
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You should've pursued levelling up regardless... don't blame the Spymaster guys that the loophole you've been exploiting is going. -
@ Seven, I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. Originally level disparity didn't dramatically affect success of attacks. Now it looks like it will. If I understand it correctly, under the new rules, a level 10 with the same attack/defense of a level 5 will have a significantly better chance of beating the level 5. The old understanding and the way the game functioned originally was that a higher attack and a higher defense had a higher chance of success regardless of level (or at least with general disregard of level).
Balance is good and I think the changes are good start. However, I wish I had more advance notice. This is a major change to the way the game, in general, functioned from the beginning.
I am not blaming them. I like the game they have made and the people who play it. Just wish I had time to prepare for the upcoming change in gameplay. I invest a lot of time and thought and energy into this game and it is frustrating when the game is changed in a major way (even if it is a good change) overnight without adequate warning.
That said, I still like the game, the crew who designed it, and the people who play it. Still going to play, just frustrated atm. :) -
No... Eston's rebalancing the game so that people that *should* lose the game *do* more often. If you're a lot weaker than someone else, then you win more often than you should do. This will now be fixed. -
Hmm... I am not in major disagreement with your last comment. I think we both would agree that:
1. They appear to balancing the game which is good.
2. Originally level disparity didn't dramatically affect success of attacks. Now it looks like it will.
3. I agree that level disparity in most games affects attack success.
My point was that point 2 is a major change and that it would have been nice to have a little more advance notice of that major change. For me, it isn't the change itself that is frustrating (I agree with you that it is good to account for level disparity), it is the suddeness of the change.
Thanks @Seven. Getting way to late. Should have been asleep a while ago. Hope you have a great day/night. -
Cool. Looks like I have the time to adapt. Thanks for responding to player concerns spymaster crew. Wish I could change my status, as I am not frustrated anymore! :) -
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Inappropriate?how do i decode the messages?
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Inappropriate?Have you deliberately killed tasks as part of this update? I don't seem to be able to perform any tasks at the moment.
I’m silly
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Inappropriate?Eston, how do i decode the messages?
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Inappropriate?I’m having fun trying to solve the cipher. Polyalphabetic substitution cipher, you say? Any chance of another hint for incompetent cryptanalysts like myself?
I’m bemused
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Inappropriate?Aha! I was adding the key when I should have been subtracting it. I don’t think I have the entire key, however; it becomes gibberish past a certain point. Not sure what I’m doing wrong there. I repeat my request for hints (:
I’m not the worst cryptanalyst in the world after all!
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Inappropriate?Hah, got it. Isn’t changing one of the words in the key kind of cheating? ^_^
I’m really enjoying this nonsense!
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Inappropriate?this assassination things is lame.. i've lost 4 armored cars and MILLIONS to level1 users !!!!
I’m frustrated
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Agreed. How can I lose armored cars to spymasters that have half the spymasters I have, 1/3rd the number of spies and 20+ levels lower than me?!
I'd think if I knew I was going to fight a lowbie, I'd keep the nice ride @ home. -
Agreed. The battle algorithm is not based on any logical criteria I can think of. -
Inappropriate?i have # £4,846.25, but i, can't put money in the bank! (they say insufficient funds?!)
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Hm... it would help me a great deal if we could see the exact amount we're carrying (ie: 1,234,567 instead of 1.23M) so you know what you can put in the bank. -
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ahhhh! I see my error! tks!! -
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Inappropriate?Are you sure your assassination rebalance is working? I just got killed by someone 1/3rd my level, with 1/2 the def, 2/3 the attack, 2/3 the spymasters, and 2x the number of spies...
And then I tried to whack him back (and get back some portion of the 288K he took from me), and I _lost_. On the third try, I kill him, and got $132
Seeing as he only has one stat on me, and according to the docs, spymasters are far more important that spies, it seems improbable that he should be able to hit me _twice_ in a row.
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I am pretty sure the rebalance has not yet been implemented. I think they may have had problems rolling it out as tasks were broken last night right around when they were to start implementing the change. Tasks seem to be broken for the iphone still.
Meanwhile it may be good to avoid buying the large money items until the fix is officially in place. I am working at leveling as fast as I can. Cept today, tasks weren't working on my iphone so lost a lot of time. Back to leveling. -
Inappropriate?okay here I am seeing this whole area for the first time & then I see an encrypted message & I can ID the encryption method quickly. But, where's the hint to the Key? I'm completely stumped there.
I’m scratching my head
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Hint: it’s somewhere on this page. -
Hints? You're giving hints? I spent like 3 hours work on this, with no real hint to being with. By giving a hint aren't you making the challenge, well lesser? -
Okay, so for people still trying to solve this, the key is longer than the encoded message. -
Inappropriate?I'm so friggin pissed! WTF?! Supposedly if your stats are better than your opponents', you should lose on the RARE occasion. I just attacked this same player FOUR times in a row and lost ALL FOUR times!!! The stats below are AFTER the 4th loss! This is NOT the first time this has happened! I'm a lvl 7 and the opponent is a lvl 10. Stats SHOULD have higher precedence than the lvl of the opponent or what's the point in the stats?
Maybe you should do away with the assassination aspect and we should just do tasks? That way a dice roll would be more appropriate.
If this game is supposed to be balanced, then lets get this fixed!
Assassinated? Now what?
You were wounded in your attempt to assassinate @epredator. Your overall losses in liquid assets and attack/defense items are shown at right, both at a glance and in an itemized view. The spy ring you went up against now has these assets for themselves.
How can I lose?
As with any battle, there is an element of chance. If the ring you went up against is far more powerful than you, your chances of winning are low (but the payoff is high.) The chances are that they have advantages over you in some categories — anything in green is a value in which that spymaster has an advantage.
Your aggregate strength
* 3,206
* 168
* 4,766
* 2,742
Your enemy’s aggregate strength
* 1,531
* 120
* 3,864
* 2,137
Your overall losses
* 21
* £1.3K
* 0
* 0
Itemized losses
* £1.3K
I’m angry, pissed, frustrated
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Well if you try several times your chances go down too. (seeing how they are on to you) -
Well, try looking for Eston's sig. eston mi six
You'll find it in the message. -
no help... F*ck these messages... -
Yeah, this one is a particular pain. I was thinking I'd put up a website with the solutions to all but the current message. -
Wait... are you suggesting you save people aggravation? Who are you and what have you done with Dr. Troll???? -
Well, there's two things factoring in here.
1.) I'm not going to post the answer here, that would ruin it for some people.
2.) I'm not going to post the most recent problem's answer. That's left as an exercise to the reader. -
"2.) I'm not going to post the most recent problem's answer. That's left as an exercise to the reader." Ahh... Glad you're back! -
Back? I never left:
"Yeah, this one is a particular pain. I was thinking I'd put up a website with the solutions to all but the current message. "
http://kin.bounceme.net/spymaster/ -
Inappropriate?WHO MADE IT SO PEOPLE TWICE YOUR LEVEL CAN TAKE YOUR ARMORED CARS? I PUT ABOUT 1/3 MY MONEY INTO THEM THAT I MADE MY ENTIRE PERIOD OF PLAYING THE GAME AND LOST IT ALL! WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THAT ONE UP?
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Wow... winning and losing is part of the game, and it'd be somewhat unfair if the people on lower levels always won, wouldn't it?
Sorry if you don't like the results of the game... but I'd recommend an easy way to fix that would be doing the tasks every time you can and leveling up. I didn't fight *anyone* until I was level 30, and I got there in a few days.
Have you considered calming your temper a bit? It comes across as a little aggressive. -
It's possible because the assassination engine sucks and always will suck. I quit the game because of this. I've lost easily 3x this per death. -
Inappropriate?Did you screw up the balance yet again? There is NO WAY I should have failed in this assassination. I'm lvl 30, they are lvl 11
stats
Mine:
spies * 3,546
spymasters * 243
attack sum * 10,355
defense sum * 5,375
Theirs:
spies * 22
spymasters * 164
attack sum * 5,086
defense sum * 2,748
Utterly ridiculous. I rarely even bother with assassinations because of how completely UNBALANCED the "luck factor" is, but with the recent lvl upgrades and items & their costs (not to mention the recommendation in the recent company update) I tried it.
Why did I even bother.
This is what makes the game suck
I’m pissed off
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Inappropriate?I've noticed the same. Since the last change tonight I've been losing time after time to people I should crush.
Something is broken.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Mine...
* 5,649
* 257
* 40,031
* 14,501
Your enemy’s aggregate strength
* 497
* 136
* 14,582
* 4,970
And I lost.
Chance should have no impact at these differences I should win every time.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?5 days and not a single comment back from the company? WOW, I guess you really don't care if we play or not. Hope your revenue stream is independent of players
I’m feeling ignored
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There are no ads, so one would assume so... -
Spymaster currently has 0 revenue; it's a side project for iLike. -
Inappropriate?Just simply because people don't tend to actually say it and never say it enough - you absolutely rock. All of you. You've actually created something unique, intelligent, intuitive and interest 'in your spare time'. Most people who are creative never catch the lightning in a bottle but you guys have done that.
I look forward to seeing how you actually turn this into a revenue stream. It obviously needs a larger universe than twitter and to decouple at some point or be....well, you've all undoubtedly had those conversations. (Been where you are, enjoy this part of your life....this is where the best stories will come from when you are 60)
I’m happy that Spymaster exists
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Agreed... I've brought stuff up because I want the game to be the best it can... but on the sites I've worked on, if I saw some of the messages I've seen from people on here... I'd perma-ban their IP address. Some of the stuff I've seen written (to what are essentially volunteers) on here is just disgusting.
I may not agree with all of their judgment calls along the way, but I'm still totally behind what the guys here are doing. Hope it continues, and into other projects too.
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