Money Issues
We've done about all we can do for the time being, but some of you will notice you still have more money than you should.
If you haven't been intentionally cheating then we're not going to ban you. We understand money has been spread around and won't penalize you for it if you weren't culpable. We will continue to investigate and hope to punish those who willfully took advantage of the game and the TOS. We'll also be thinking about a solution to bring some of the players back down to a more reasonable level without punishing those who worked hard for their money and advancement.
Game on.
If you haven't been intentionally cheating then we're not going to ban you. We understand money has been spread around and won't penalize you for it if you weren't culpable. We will continue to investigate and hope to punish those who willfully took advantage of the game and the TOS. We'll also be thinking about a solution to bring some of the players back down to a more reasonable level without punishing those who worked hard for their money and advancement.
Game on.
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Inappropriate?So am I supposed to keep the $435.5M that this whole mess has dumped in my account? Your post didn't exactly make that clear.
I’m annoyed
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you can give some it to cool random people...... D4RK_4NG3L :) -
Inappropriate?uh, my account has ballooned from $135M earlier today to $3.6B. Oddly, my Swiss bank account only doubled from $9.00 to $18.00
I’m indifferent
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So you have $3.6B in your liquid assets right now? What did you say your account name was? ;) -
i only have 1 defense too ;-) i sold all attack/defense weapons awhile back and just have money accumulating from safe houses -
I think mine went up by x20 the normal amount... so instead of having the 35k in reserve for my liquid, I ended up with somewhere in the neighborhood of 25M pounds for my reserve. -
Inappropriate?Ok, so I have to say... I love this game.
That said, I think a lot of the cheating with all but disappear if people were allowed to keep the money they earned after going E1-5. It just doesn't make sense playing and then starting off at 0. -
I agree. At least keep the safe houses or something along those lines.
Then again, I'd also like to see people banned rapidly when they break the ToS. The game is fun, but its losing a lot of the pleasure when its becoming difficult to play fairly.
A better way of reporting those suspected of cheating would help improve things. That doesn't mean an easier way, but merely make it better than sending a DM or posting something here in public.
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Inappropriate?i have $435M in my bank now and $10.5M in liquid, this up from around $4M or just under... just so u know... do i keep it? will it be readjusted? i put it all in my swiss account to prevent theft... :D
I’m indifferent
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Inappropriate?Um, I have extra money I didn't earn... I've deposited it to my swiss account, but I never merged accounts. It's like an extra 8 million that I didn't expect (well 6 now) but I thought I'd let you guys know.
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Yeah... there are a few people who benefited from this stuff by getting attacked and winning, or having someone transfer money. -
Inappropriate?Damn, if only you people actually READ the message dkr posted you'd know that many people saw an increase in money. It's fine
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my point is that my money has increased since this afternoon, after they supposedly rebalanced/fixed things, and i haven't gotten any money from any depositors or attackers -
Inappropriate?I'm not even sure if this is related, but I am not gaining money when I complete tasks, and most of my items disappeared...
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Inappropriate?Is it OK for me to use the extra 2.8 billion (aside from the 28 million I already had) in my Swiss Bank account? Or, to rephrase, am I going to get to keep the $2.8B in my Swiss Bank account, or will it be "taken back" after this is all sorted out?
I’m still confused
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Inappropriate?...So could you explain to me what I am supposed to do with the £697,793,253 that just popped up when I changed levels? And am I supposed to return the 35 Stealth Armored Super cars that I just bought? or that random safehouse that I have a strong urge to buy?
I’m wondering what the hell am I supposed to do?
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Inappropriate?missing supercars :(
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Inappropriate?Yes me to; i feel cheated because i only got 4M lol, I put it in my swiss account; do i send it back to someone?
I’m confused
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Inappropriate?For those of you "worried" about having too much money, you can do what I did. Buy and sell supercars until it's back to normal.
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Sounds Great to me! (I'll just spread the wealth around, via bounties!) -
Have fun at the top of the "Most wanted" list! -
EXACTLY! That was my first thought. Instead of bothering the three overworked people trying to catch the cheaters, I just rebalanced by own account back to where I actually earned it. I didn't ask for free $$$ and I'm frankly disappointed in those who want to profit from a glitch. It's not only ethically sketchy but its cheap and petty. If you live your life this way, you are a mini-madoff (without the real Park Ave penthouse and mistress). -
Inappropriate?well what goes around comes around .. ya know.
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Inappropriate?Check your underpants..lol oh, no, that says DICTATORS' underpants, sorry, my bad.
I really love this game, way to go, guys....
I’m happy as saandboy
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Inappropriate?Odd.. I went from near zero in the bank this AM to 100mil tonight... let me know what to do with it.
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Inappropriate?Uhm. Not about anything here, but ilist does make backups right? My account went to 2.1B pounds this morning. Why don't you guys simply restore last night's backup and be done with it? I don't even have a clue what to do with 2.1B pounds other than buying tons of supercars.
Please don't let this situation linger and restore a backup ASAP in order to not let the whole game derail for me. And please please pretty please don't tell me that... you don't have backups?
I’m confused
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Inappropriate?o well it was fun having "You gained assets totaling $379,721,632,148,368,000" for a while =P it was so awesome, some1 attacked me and i got $3797T. I'll never get that wealth again
I’m ganna miss beeing that rich
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Your account was only created 10 hours ago and you do have liquid funds greater than 0 and several items. It doesn't help us when people post vague things like this - if you have a real issue then email us (appeals@playspymaster.com) with your details (include a link to your profile/dossier) and what the issue is. The more detail the more likely we'll help you. -
Inappropriate?Just found out about this. Hadn't been on Spymaster for a while.
It's an interesting issue. Sounds like the WoW plague or some such. Let's hope there are blogposts about this.
I’m amused
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people blog about Spymaster? -
People blog? -
what is this blog thing you guys are talking about? Some kind of eastern european dessert? -
Inappropriate?keith, you are cold! heartless! i go from having 2 million trillion dollars down to 2 dollars! i can't even but a cup of coffee with that. you even raided my 25 trillion dollar swiss account nest egg. that was my retirement fund.
seriously, i'm sorry for all the extra work ilist had to put in to clean up this mess. if it's any consolation we had a whole lot of fun. i ended losing about 30 million but it was worth it.
thanks for straightening this up so quickly.
I’m sad. i used to have more money than bill gates.
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at least you are still better looking !! (I'm just taking a statistical stab in the dark there...) -
Inappropriate?hunh. I have the opposite problem. Where is all my money? My account has been steady state, strange considering I have 4 safe house. I didn't play for three days, and made NO money! What gives?
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Inappropriate?Thanks to everyone who took gamers' complaints seriously and closed the loopholes that were giving a few players a ludicrously unfair advantage.
I used the merge option because I was sick of maintaining two totally separate characters. It caused the merged character to go from 39 to 40 and I went Elite and dropped all monetary gains from the merge.I saw so many people gaming the system by creating more and more characters then merging them in order to keep assets that I considered not playing anymore.
I do feel that there should be a way to legally keep some of your assets when moving up through Elite Levels, but until you devise a way to do that, I 'm glad you've made it harder for players top come up with their own ways to game the system.
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?OK, I fucked the game.
There was SABOTEUR that was on the board with stats so high that it was obviously a hack. And you did nothing. No messages, No ban, no corrected stats. I was working hard on my main account. Paying for points, trying to get on the board. This sucked.
And I learned about the bug. an Easy to fix one. The same as with mutiple kills. This was a simple case of concurrent update. the fix : Add a TimeStamp Column. Do a select with the timestamps column before showing the merge button. Do a select for update with the timestamps read before in the where clause then a update with all needed columns and value (not columns + values, but the real numeric one (*)) and a new timestamps. Commit. Voila. No more Multiply-ed merge.
But no fix. More and more people learn about the bug and used it to level, to get money and to get points (which are money to you). and I wait. Well last week. I got fed up. I started doing it. And since I understood about it, I did good with it.
And I started to give monstrous amount of money. At first I did not now. A bug in the result screen always showed 1.5B so it didnt seem outrageous. But when I learn about the real amount of money that was transferred, I knew it would break the game and continued to transfer money. Others started to do the same. Thunder cats, Puma, zone, etc. all did it, just like I asked them too. The game needed your attention.
My main account got money from others... I got rid of it by buying and selling supercars. If you ask, I will provide the name of that account. But know that I bought a lot of points, and still plan to buy some more, as I am level 40 Elite V and I can't level anymore to get some free ones.
You should provide us with an email address to send you private info.
Spymaster Player...
spymasterplayer@gmail.com
I’m sad and sorry.
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There is ONLY one fix at this point - reset the game. Nothing else will be equitable. A new player that joins today will ALWAYS be at a disadvantage to those "innocent victims" that have tons of weapons no matter how long they play. Do you honestly expect every player to buy and sell supercars to get back to the correct amount of cash? Learn your lesson from the exploitation that just occurred with this hack. There will ALWAYS be players gaming the system. If you want the game to have any integrity at all, please reset the game. -
Just to make sure you know about it. When merging, you get back health and it reset the element of surprise counter. This has been used to do more than 2-3 attack per 2 hour period. -
If you were trying to get our attention DM'ing anyone on the about page (http://playspymaster.com/about) or emailing us would have worked fine. What you did instead was make the issue 100x worse. Thanks. -
Inappropriate?Hi. If the 950M extra Roubles I seem to have gained in liquid cash isn't automatically removed by the end of today then I'll take the buy/sell super car route to bring it down to the aprox10M I had before. It would just ruin my enjoyment of the game to be able to buy whatever the heck I like without the corresponding effort - why play otherwise?!
I have transferred it to my bank a/c which was empty before.
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Inappropriate?Wow, so my money, isn't my money? I thought that was just sooo cooool but I guess I'll continue playing...or letting the game run itself.
I’m okay with it now...LOL
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Inappropriate?Wow some people just don't understand that if they reset the game many people who worked legitimately for their money will not play again.. you can't reset after every glitch. You just make the best of it..Geez.
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Inappropriate?I am confused and insulted. this blog on the money issues was running yesterday and there were several players who admitted a benefit and full credit to them/ it was honest and fair enough - for the good of the game!
I also volunteered a benefit (doing the right damn thing I thought - honest and upfront) and in reply I get this insulting response for my trouble:
"If you were trying to get our attention DM'ing anyone on the about page (http://playspymaster.com/about) or emailing us would have worked fine. What you did instead was make the issue 100x worse. Thanks. – Ben Myles, 6 hours ago"
In addition and due to my honesty i get my stats wound back about 400 points (kill wound total) and the money taken/ the points i built up over the last 3 days damn it! I cannot fathom such a response and if it was crucial that all voluntary notifications were channeled to a certain place and not another - then make an announcement stating let us know here and give the link / or conversely state that all is under control etc etc!
I come to play and deprive my time to other things/ i do not expect to be abused for doing something (albeit not desired) that in my mind was honest and likely to be helpful to your screw-up/ your mail is inappropriate, nonsensical and unfair!
RSD
I’m insulted
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Um,if you look carefully at the dividing lines I think you'll actually see that Ben Myles was actually commenting on Spymaster Player's post. -
Inappropriate?I had several hundred million stashed away in my SB. When I logged in today, that transformed into 2B, and my liquids shot up to 4B (ish). Not knowing what to do, I just dumped it all in my SB, which in hindsight was a bad idea, since if you even things out, my original multi-million dollar fortune may be lost.
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Inappropriate?If anyone feels guilty about having so much cash you can wire it to my account. :) I am a new player with a lowly 24K in my account. I guess I will never have the opportunity to get a billion dollar stimulus package from the Directorate since I just joined a few days ago.
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I’m waiting
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get a job, you deadbeat! stop looking to the directorate for a handout. ;-) -
Bob! I don't want it from the Directorate! I want it from you!!! ;-)
Seriously, I don't want a handout. I was just making a point. I am more than willing to grow my account through my own efforts.
@directorate - I am not looking for you to take any action on this. I was just sharing my perspective as a newbie after reading through this (and several other) threads. Thanks for your efforts to try to right the ship! -
there ya go! don't spend it all in one place
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