'Circular' space switching.
I want one thing, and one thing only from this app... PLEASE!
Given a 3x3 matrix of spaces, I want to be able to switch 1->2->3->1 and 1v4v7v1. I do NOT want 9->1
Anything else is gravy.
I will exercise restraint and not give this an "immediate" priority. :)
Thanks, and please?
(Sorry to be pushy, by putting this here, as well as on the tracker, but... I REALLY want this if it's at all possible.)
(Yes, I know about invoking the switcher, changing space, and then hitting return or (other things) to dismiss it and move... but I really want the Spaces/Virtue/every other VD manager I've used over the last 15 years behaviour of 'hit switch key, space switches'.)
Given a 3x3 matrix of spaces, I want to be able to switch 1->2->3->1 and 1v4v7v1. I do NOT want 9->1
Anything else is gravy.
I will exercise restraint and not give this an "immediate" priority. :)
Thanks, and please?
(Sorry to be pushy, by putting this here, as well as on the tracker, but... I REALLY want this if it's at all possible.)
(Yes, I know about invoking the switcher, changing space, and then hitting return or (other things) to dismiss it and move... but I really want the Spaces/Virtue/every other VD manager I've used over the last 15 years behaviour of 'hit switch key, space switches'.)
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Inappropriate?It's certainly possible - are you sure Spaces does this already? Cause Hyperspaces == Spaces (at least in terms of virtual desktop functionality).
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Inappropriate?I'm not at all sure of what Spaces can or can not do.
I know that your switcher Does (Almost) The Right Thing...
If there was a way to invoke your switcher via modifiers ONLY (When you hit, say, 'Command Option' as the hotkey, it keeps waiting for a 'real' key) and make it switch-and dismiss on hitting a directional key - especially if then holding the modifiers re-invoked the switcher...
Am I making any sense here?
(Spaces behaviour is: Given a 3x3 matrix of spaces
123
456
789
From 1, Right gives you: 1234567891
Down gives you: 147{STOP}
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Inappropriate?@JB Segal
Those 2 different desired behaviors have been formerly been a nice subject of discussion I had with the author of Warp (this tool could be a solution for you to move from space to space the way you like, but with the Mouse and not the keyboard).
To give some precisions:
- Warp does exactly the move you wish
123>123>123 (horizontally)
147>147>147 (vertically)
Its author called this motion "à la Asteroids"
- Personnally I think "gravy" is too much :-) I used a lot of multiple desktop managers (from Unix stations to Mac... Windows and Linux being among my intermediate computers) and I always preferred the other behavior which is the current one of Apple Spaces that you detailed in your second message:
a) it does not roll over the borders, as you listed with "STOP" above: up and down moves will stop on the outside perimeter border.
b) it links 9->1 (or 1->9) with right (or left) moves since the underlying idea is to enumerate the spaces.
We could call this horizontal behavior "à la Spaces" ;-)
Maybe a better and satisfying solution would have been:
- in Spaces (because from my point of view Hyperspaces is not guilty),
having two kinds of shortcuts: arrow keys for your preferred moves "à la Asteroids" and +/- for enumerating moves "à la Spaces".
- the problem is that, to get the actual behavior of Spaces, users would have to use vertical arrows (vertically) and +/- (horizontally) which is not very natural.
- to make everybody satisfied, Apple should have introduced 3 configs in Spaces (where they currently have simplified into one):
Horizontal moves: ^ right & left (or any other user pref)
Vertical moves: ^ up and down (or any other user pref)
Enumeration moves : ^ + & - (or any other user pref)
Since Spaces is not so user-friendly, and that Hyperspaces is here to make Spaces become "hyper", one could rely on Hyperspaces (and Tony) to give a solution through Hyperspaces this way:
a) have Hyperspaces define its own shortcuts with all the possibility we hope,
in other words (but not very light):
Switch to next space: ^ > (for instance)
Switch to previous space: ^ < (by the way "previous" is here better than "last" space)
Switch to right space: ^ right arrow
Switch to left space: ^ left arrow
Switch to up space: ^ up arrow
Switch to down space: ^ down arrow
AND a user preference to enable the circular link (instead of stopping at the borders)
X Wrap spaces
b) if the user want to re-assign the same arrow-keys that are used as standard in Spaces, he would have to disable them manually from Spaces (or Hyperspaces could do it automatically? ;-))
Sound possible Tony?
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Inappropriate?The above idea could lead to a user interface a bit lighter by combining the 6 shortcuts by pairs on 3 lines only:
Switch to previous/next space: (click to record shortcut) (click to record shortcut)
Switch to up/down space: (click to record shortcut) (click to record shortcut)
Switch to left/right space: (click to record shortcut) (click to record shortcut)
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Inappropriate?I'd like to add one small idea to this request: can you make it so that when you do wrap around, the animation continues in the direction of motion? For ex, given the following (Hyper)Space configuration L to R:
1 2 3
... and hotkeys ^<left> ^<right> to move between them, hitting ^<right> when on (Hyper)Space 3 should show an animation of you moving to the right. Similarly, when on (Hyper)Space 1, hitting ^<left> when on (Hyper)Space 1 should show an animation of you moving to the left.
Currently, when you reach the 'end' it jumps back to the beginning, which is somewhat jarring, would probably be more smooth to continue animating in the same direction...
Just a thought... and one of those 'would-be-nice-if-it-did-this' idea. Besides that, thanks for creating this product :)
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