Problems with Thomasville Furniture
My wife and I recently purchased a Felicity Sunlit Cherry Bedroom Suite from Thomasville Furniture. Our Thomasville saleswoman had led us to believe that our Thomasville furniture would be made in North Carolina, but when it was delivered we discovered that it was all made in China. Thomasville had built its reputation on delivering high quality American-made furniture from North Carolina -- but it appears that those days are now long gone.
The fit & finish of our Thomasville made-in-China furniture was poor. There's really no other way to describe it. Our bedroom suite has a total of 28 drawers. Many drawers weren't centered in their openings; some drawers were recessed in too far, and other drawers extended out too far. After 2 visits from Thomasville's repair people, we still have: 8 drawers not centered in their openings; 13 that extend out too far; and 7 that are recessed in too far. Thomasville's repair people told us that our remaining problems were non-repairable. So I guess we'll just have to learn to live with this poor quality.
When we purchased our furniture, we specifically asked our Thomasville saleswoman what kind of wood was used in its construction. She told us it was "entirely cherry". When we later asked Thomasville's repair people that same question, they looked at our furniture and readily identified over 5 different species of wood -- just one was cherry, and at least 2 were obscure, unidentifiable Chinese hardwoods. What we actually received was quite different from what we paid for. When we brought this to the attention of the management of our Thomasville dealer, they completely ignored our complaint.
At first glance, Thomasville's construction quality appeared to us to be quite good (i.e., dovetail drawers, etc.). But in places where it wouldn't be quite as obvious to a customer, some of the furniture's joints are held together with staples. That doesn't instill much confidence that the furniture will last for more than a few years. We would have expected to find that kind of cheap construction in bedroom suites that cost under $1,500 -- but not in a Thomasville bedroom suite that cost us over $5,000!
My wife's dresser arrived with a large 10" circular hole in the back of the cabinet. Rather than repairing this damage "before" the furniture was shipped, Thomasville's factory instead tried to conceal the damage by screwing a large Masonite panel over the hole. While Thomasville repaired the damaged back panel "after" we discovered it, the point is that Thomasville deliberately shipped severely damaged furniture to a customer with the hope that the damage would never be discovered. That's not what one would expect from a quality "world class" furniture brand.
Thomasville's furniture is shipped with a Chinese "plasticized" finish. In our experience, it attracts dust like a magnet and unlike a quality lacquered or varnished finish it's relatively soft and easily damaged. According to Thomasville's "printed furniture care instructions" my wife and I are not suppose to allow synthetics, rubber, or plastics to rest on the wood finish as they may damage the finish. That, of course, prohibits placing most lamps, clocks, radios, TVs, pens, etc. on top of your Thomasville furniture unless you first modify the bottoms of those products.
Everything at Thomasville seems to now be focused on charging its customers as much as possible, while at the same time cutting its costs as much possible. Even the screws that hold the knobs to the drawers have been cost-cut. Rather than extending the screws into the knobs by at least 3/8", they just barely touch the knob. The cost savings across an entire bedroom set has to be less than a dollar -- and yet amazingly Thomasville still went for it.
After contacting our local Thomasville dealer several times about many of these problems and receiving no satisfaction, my wife and I wrote to Ed Teplitz, president of Thomasville Furniture Industries -- and also to Ralph Scozzafava, CEO of Furniture Brands International. Furniture Brands International owns Thomasville, along with Broyhill, Lane, Drexel Heritage, Henredon, and Maitland-Smith. Neither of them ever responded to us. That pretty much sums-up our Thomasville customer satisfaction experience.
The fit & finish of our Thomasville made-in-China furniture was poor. There's really no other way to describe it. Our bedroom suite has a total of 28 drawers. Many drawers weren't centered in their openings; some drawers were recessed in too far, and other drawers extended out too far. After 2 visits from Thomasville's repair people, we still have: 8 drawers not centered in their openings; 13 that extend out too far; and 7 that are recessed in too far. Thomasville's repair people told us that our remaining problems were non-repairable. So I guess we'll just have to learn to live with this poor quality.
When we purchased our furniture, we specifically asked our Thomasville saleswoman what kind of wood was used in its construction. She told us it was "entirely cherry". When we later asked Thomasville's repair people that same question, they looked at our furniture and readily identified over 5 different species of wood -- just one was cherry, and at least 2 were obscure, unidentifiable Chinese hardwoods. What we actually received was quite different from what we paid for. When we brought this to the attention of the management of our Thomasville dealer, they completely ignored our complaint.
At first glance, Thomasville's construction quality appeared to us to be quite good (i.e., dovetail drawers, etc.). But in places where it wouldn't be quite as obvious to a customer, some of the furniture's joints are held together with staples. That doesn't instill much confidence that the furniture will last for more than a few years. We would have expected to find that kind of cheap construction in bedroom suites that cost under $1,500 -- but not in a Thomasville bedroom suite that cost us over $5,000!
My wife's dresser arrived with a large 10" circular hole in the back of the cabinet. Rather than repairing this damage "before" the furniture was shipped, Thomasville's factory instead tried to conceal the damage by screwing a large Masonite panel over the hole. While Thomasville repaired the damaged back panel "after" we discovered it, the point is that Thomasville deliberately shipped severely damaged furniture to a customer with the hope that the damage would never be discovered. That's not what one would expect from a quality "world class" furniture brand.
Thomasville's furniture is shipped with a Chinese "plasticized" finish. In our experience, it attracts dust like a magnet and unlike a quality lacquered or varnished finish it's relatively soft and easily damaged. According to Thomasville's "printed furniture care instructions" my wife and I are not suppose to allow synthetics, rubber, or plastics to rest on the wood finish as they may damage the finish. That, of course, prohibits placing most lamps, clocks, radios, TVs, pens, etc. on top of your Thomasville furniture unless you first modify the bottoms of those products.
Everything at Thomasville seems to now be focused on charging its customers as much as possible, while at the same time cutting its costs as much possible. Even the screws that hold the knobs to the drawers have been cost-cut. Rather than extending the screws into the knobs by at least 3/8", they just barely touch the knob. The cost savings across an entire bedroom set has to be less than a dollar -- and yet amazingly Thomasville still went for it.
After contacting our local Thomasville dealer several times about many of these problems and receiving no satisfaction, my wife and I wrote to Ed Teplitz, president of Thomasville Furniture Industries -- and also to Ralph Scozzafava, CEO of Furniture Brands International. Furniture Brands International owns Thomasville, along with Broyhill, Lane, Drexel Heritage, Henredon, and Maitland-Smith. Neither of them ever responded to us. That pretty much sums-up our Thomasville customer satisfaction experience.
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Inappropriate?That's terrible to hear. We too buy North Carolina-made furniture with the expectation that it will be of good quality. It seems to me that if you ordered furniture that was to be both (a) made in the USA and (b) made of a specific type of wood, that you should be able to return your furniture for a full refund since it was not as advertised. What type of resolution were you hoping to get from the company?
I’m disappointed they had no response from the company
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Inappropriate?We thought they would, at the very least, offer to give us a substantial discount since what they sold us had been "grossly misrepresented". That would have been the honorable thing to do -- but instead our Thomasville dealer offered us nothing. Our dealer also refused to repair the remaining problems that we still have with our furniture.
Squeezing water out of a rock would've been easier than getting Thomasville to give us a full refund. According to the back of our Thomasville sales contract (in very tiny print), it says that "items cannot be returned after accepting delivery unless there is unrepairable damage". Accordingly, that means that Thomasville will not issue any refunds for blatant misrepresentations from their sales staff or for poor product quality. However, our sales contract did say that "Thomasville Furniture Industries warrants its product against manufacturing defects" -- but unfortunately, when it suits their interests, they do conveniently ignore that part of their sales contract. That's been our experience. Even writing to the president of Thomasville Furniture accomplished nothing -- we never even received a response from him.
The day after we received our Thomasville delivery we had donated our previous bedroom set (which was of far higher quality than our Chinese-built Thomasville stuff) to a local charity. At that point we didn't think it would be right for us to go back to a lower income family and ask for our old furniture back. So returning the furniture to Thomasville was never really a viable option for us.
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Inappropriate?I have had the same issue. Please be advised that as a customer with a warranty, you have substantial rights and should seek counsel to pursue a lawsuit against Thomasville. I am an attorney and will be filing suit in Virginia.
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geoff:(Doug from Va.) Thanks for your comments. Being in the same situation as most of us and having legal expertise, is there anything helpful you can share with those of us that are taking legal action against this company? ( discododds@gmail.com) -
Inappropriate?Thank you for your comments. I was going to purchase a complete dining room from Thomasville and now will take my business elsewhere.
I’m Scott in South Carolina
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Inappropriate?I have just bought a house full of wonderful Thomasville furniture and the quality is great!
I’m Bill in Tennessee
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Inappropriate?That's great, Bill. Glad you like it. Unfortunately, this customer doesn't feel that way. I wish someone from Thomasville could have helped them, at the very least, come up with a way for them to return the furniture.
When you say you just bought a house full of Thomasville furniture, where did you buy it? That is, what state did you buy your furniture in, and did you find that any of it was made in China? I myself am not picky about where furniture is made, but I do remember (as a former Southerner) that Thomasville used to pride itself on making furniture in the US of A. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore, but I'd love to be educated about it. Please elaborate more, Bill, if you can.
I’m hoping you can tell us more, Bill
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Inappropriate?Bought in Tennessee and I didn't just wake up and find out that furniture manufacturing in the states moved to China, Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines and other countries overnight. It really started in the 90's because obscene low wages and fixed currency in these countries led to great furniture values. Labor in these countries cost around 50 cents an hour US!
Consumer price index for furniture has continued to fall from the 90's to today. Is the US consumer ready to pay the cost of a fair US wage and benefit package to keep US furniture manufacturing in the US? I think not.
What does this really have to do with customer service? I suspect that customer service has change as well, with much longer lead times as product and parts now have to ride the ocean to the US. There is only one side represented above and if a company doesn't have a good coustomer service department, then they will soon be shuttered like the NC furniture factories.
I wish the US could still be competive in all types of manufacturing that has moved overseas with all the jobs as well, but I'm not sure those days will ever return.
I’m Bill in Tennessee
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Well, let's hope that the Thomasville folks take heed of the discussion and perhaps join us. Thanks, Bill. -
Horrible company ... Thomasville. We are waiting over 6 months now for our furniture and they will not answer our inquiries. They had promised 6-8 weeks delivery originally and now will not answer our inquires. Do NOT recommend this company at all. -
File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau in Thomasville, NC and in the location of the store where you bought it. That is what I am doing plus taking them to Small Claims Court. -
I feel it is easier to buy a car than furniture. The for the price the unsatisfied customer paid he should have received well made furniture. Also, $5,000.00 for sorry made furniture who is making the profit not american workers. At this price furniture could be made in America. This is a scam. I have been told that is cost alot to have this furniture shipped from China and that furniture could be made here just as cheap. When will American's wake up and realize we are selling our country short. I am in the process of buying a bedroom set and the cover up of sorry furniture is a scam. I am trying not to be burned, but how is a person to know what is real and fake wood. The materials of furniture should be posted on all furniture so the buyer knows exactly what they are buying. I heard of one company that put stirophone under veneer. Give us a break, who is governing the sell of furniture? Dealers should not be allow to swindle people. I am thinking Kincaid does anyone know if this is a good brand? -
Why are furniture companies and others manufacturers closing their plants here and opening plants oversea or having their products manufactured overseas? Look not only at labor costs here in the states, but look at the high federal taxes paid by these manufacturers here in the states. To continue to be competitve or stay in business they are forced by the policy makers in our country who continue to vote to raise the federal taxes. So not only do we the consumers lose out but the government loses by forcing these businesses either to close or the leave the county. Doesn't make sense does it? -
Inappropriate?My issue with Thomasville is similar to the manfacturers of automobiles prior to most state's enactment of lemon law statutes, insofar as the consumer not reaching a responsible party for the issue they face. Thomasville will automatically refer you to the dealer of the furniture and "punts" on the issue of them having issued the warranty. Returning to Lemon Law statutes, the dealer and manufacturer are both on the hook for a vehicle claimed by a plaintiff to be a "lemon." I am confident this practice of Thomasville, without exception, referring customers to its dealers, results in more, as opposed to less, consumer lawsuits. My issue demonstrates the company has a policy of issuing a warranty it will not honor.
Personally, I was disgusted with Thomasville corporate. I debated the issue of the warranty being issued by Thomasville, not the dealer, with a manager, until ultimately being told she would not elevate the issue; case closed. I was prepared to file suit as the warranty period neared expiration. After one final letter to both Thomasville and the dealer, the item was reclaimed. But this is not a quality company in terms of service. To any person looking to purchase furniture, I would go a bit lower end (and price in the cost of the furniture not being high quality) or go higher end (pay more for the item that Thomasville formerly produced in good ole' USA.
In summary, Thomasville has high prices on its furniture but does not resolve customer complaints in a timely, professional, or reasonable manner. Since the quality is often compromised by outsourcing and plain inconsistencies, the consumer should not expect resolution of a faulty piece from this company, Thomasville.
I hope the market corrects the company and find it disappointing so many companys fail to "get it" in terms of resolving issues to avoid litigation.
Caveat Emptor!!!
I’m Warning
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I'm glad I found this site. I too am looking for furniture and always thought Thomasville had a great product. I guess I'll avoid them. I have Ethan Allen furniture and am totally satisfied with their quality. I guess I'll pay the extra $$ and buy from them again. -
I doubt you will pay extra $$. Thomasville is very expensive. The expense is tolerable if you get good customer service and have a product delivered as represented by the sales person. Thomasville fails to honor its warranty as a company. -
I doubt you will pay extra $$. Thomasville is very expensive. The expense is tolerable if you get good customer service and have a product delivered as represented by the sales person. Thomasville fails to honor its warranty as a company. -
Inappropriate?It's the China syndrome complete.
It stinks the moment you open the door to the store or open the box the product came in. From US to Sweden.
We sold out completely to them.
With milk the only item left made in USA.
Go to any home store for any project and fill your cart with only American made products.
Pick from screws to tools. Door handles to plumbing.
Building a new home today would be 98% made in China, assembled by Mexico.
Good Luck.
I’m !@#ed to the Max
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Inappropriate?Sorry to hear you feel that way, Philscbx. I think that clinging to the "Made in America" mantra isn't very realistic. I personally don't care where things are made, as long as they are made well.
How about we agree to disagree and simply say that you get what you pay for. -
Furniture dealer should post who makes their product and what material is made of. -
If we were getting what we paid for, Eric, none of us would be having these problems. I wouldn't knowingly buy anything from China, simply beause they have no conscience where it comes to cutting corners that result in poisoning our children and pets. Thomasville and their dealers intentionally mislead you into believing that you're getting furniture made in North Carolina. That's a big part of what is wrong with this situation. The "Made in America Mantra" is beside the point. We are paying big bucks for quality furniture and getting cheap stuff. Just because other furniture manufacturers are doing it doen't make it right. The dealers and Thomasville apparently aren't interested in providing quality service to match their quality prices. Their service matches the junk they are selling. I'm still waiting for a refund on a bed that I refused delivery of due to damage. The dealer has shown no sense of urgency to handle anything. I paid for a new piece of furniture, not a repaired piece of furniture. I don't have money to throw around. -
Inappropriate?The blindness of 'well made' relates also to how it performs.
People that never build, or repair anything hobby wise to building it, and getting paid for it are simply not aware of quality till it fails, or someone gets hurt.
Packaging hides the quality, just as it did yesterday with security outdoor lighting from a Lowe's, Homedepot, Menards, etc.
More time was lost dealing with 2 of the $50 fixtures that never performed as stated and made in China.
Further research found commercial lighting supply of the same features of night light mode to full bright made by RAB, vs consumer Junk made by Zenith.
Of course the RAB was a little more, but performance was exact as stated and more.
The expense was double, dealing with returning the others.
Lost time, fuel, and making customer and myself disgusted.
My statements are not opinions, they are actual hands on results, in all fields from home to aircraft.
As for Mantra of USA, I'd rather it said Japan. Go into any major machine tooling operation. The best tooling will display Japan. Now your talking quality.
Simply drive 10 miles, and count how many auto, trucks, motorcycles, etc display Honda.
I'm still waiting from any source to the answer of what the chemical embedded in all China products contains.
Mostly in the rubber and plastics.
I'll simply go on record and state right now that it's a cancer causing concern that 10 yrs from now will be finally confirmed. Just kept quiet for now.
Getting what you pay for will always be the norm.
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The chemical embedded in all China products? In the wood it is formaldehyde. It is used in the process of what in the states we call "particle board" and now is referred to as "hardwoods" manufactured wood, wood veneers, etc. The formaldehyde is an agent added to the glue to mix with wood particles to hold it together when compressed. Depending on manufacturer, some use higher percentage than others. -
Inappropriate?Philsbx,
Are you old enough to remember when all Japan exports to the US in the beginning was just as cheap as the China goods? I had a few of those cheap transistor radios when I was a lad.
I still remember my grandfather talking about those cheap Japanese products. They got their foot in the door and then went for quality and our goverment helped build many of the plants.
Doesn't look like such a good investment now for Detroit. I just hate that many people complain about cheap imports and in reality no way would they pay triple to have it made in the states.
Our country has some major issues with importing, value of the dollar, etc. I would sure like one of those Honda or BMW cars, but guess my old Ford will have to do.
I’m Bill in Tennessee
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Inappropriate?56' and counting darnit.
But in those days, the cheap plastic army guys was about all we complained about. It was a toys war going on mostly.
Recall the sledge hammering the poor Honda's got in late 60's outside the auto plants? Of course we rebuilt Japan when we pounded them to dust. And they proved by looking forward 10 years into the future that they would win, and they did.
We on the other hand looked no further than tomorrow. So we can't logically blame anyone other than ourselves. I studied this activity in the early 70's and now Japan's goods are now too expensive as well.
$5000 to just upgrade to a full frame Digital body only SLR? $2000, just to have a decent lens? Japan has no problems getting it done and the loose change for it.
The China versions have no warranty.
So I'm stuck with cheap 3 grand Canon, plus other lenses.
I’m happier than sliced bread
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Inappropriate?Thank you for the information. I was just considering furnishing my new condo with all Thomasville furniture because of the reputation of the furniture being so durable and timeless, but now I will see what else I can come up with since they do not resolve customer issues. I am surprised that they do not have better customer relations since their furniture is so expensive. I would be very upset if they did that to me so in order to avoid that situation, I will just go elsewhere. Really appreciate the advise.
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My husband and I have been looking at Thomasville dining room and bedroom furniture for our new home. The bedroom set alone is $12,000.00. The dining room furniture we choose was close to $9,000.00. Before reading this website we decided against the Thomasville dining room set because of dollar value when compared to a Canadian dining room set from Canadel. We still paid $8,000.00 but it is solid wood, beautifully designed and craftsmanship is excellent. This is furniture that is build to last. I only wish they made bedroom furniture. The only reason I keep looking at the Thomasville bedroom set is I love the style, Hills of Tuscany. I can's find anything I like as much. But I can't bring myself to spend that amount of money after reading the comments above regarding lack of customer service or support and the dissatisfaction from several consumers due to quality. There are other options. If I have to settle for mediocre furniture I will pay mediocre prices. I'm sure at the that price I can find something I can be happy with. -
Inappropriate?In all fairness to Thomasville, when the U.S. first started to import goods from both Japan and later from Taiwan the quality left a lot to be desired. Later on their quality became some of the best available anywhere.
While Thomasville may now (in 2008) have some very serious quality issues from their Chinese-made furniture, in another 15 or 20 years their problems too will likely be behind them and their furniture will again be considered some of the best made.
I’m Optimistic
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While that may be true -- that Thomasville Furniture will eventually get their act together -- it doesn't help anyone who is shopping for furniture today. Why would anyone want to buy Thomasville's made-in-China furniture today with all of the problems that come with it? Also, it doesn't excuse all of the misrepresentations made by Thomasville's sales staff. In our experience, they'll tell you almost anything -- regardless of whether it's true or not -- to make the sale! -
While that may be true -- that Thomasville Furniture will eventually get their act together -- it doesn't help anyone who is shopping for furniture today. Why would anyone want to buy Thomasville's made-in-China furniture today with all of the problems that come with it? Also, it doesn't excuse all of the misrepresentations made by Thomasville's sales staff. In our experience, they'll tell you almost anything -- regardless of whether it's true or not -- to make the sale! -
Inappropriate?I wish I had seen this posting prior to our purchase. We purchased a sectional from a Thomasville store. The sofa that arrived is the most uncomfortable thing I have ever sat on. We are trying to get some help with making it comfortable or getting a refund. We were told just to put the cushions on the ground and step on them to break them in. We are very unhappy and this level of service is unacceptable. We have already reported them to BBB and will continue to fight this battle with Thomasville.
I’m frustrated
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I'm unhappy too! I bought a Thomasville dining room set 2-1/2 years ago and the finish on the Chinese tabletop is terrible. I've gone a couple of rounds with Thomasville already (they told me it was the retailer's responsibility to resolve my complaint) and I'm getting ready to try again by writing to the top. But from what I'm reading here it won't do any good. -
Inappropriate?As an ex-employee with Thomasville Furniture, I must add that anyone will have a difficult time finding any furniture still made in the USA, even most of the very top lines are from China, Viet Nam or Indonesia. As far as the above mentioned Felicity Cherry bedroom suit; any (and I mean any) furniture made with a veneer on select hardwoods, you will find the veneer is the cherry, or mahoghany, etc. and the hardwoods will be from the selection that is most available at the time. The legs, posts and most of the trim areas will also be of solid cherry, mahoghany, etc. Remember that the most expensive furniture in the world will be veneer on select hardwoods (Steinway pianos, Karges handmade dining room tables, the dining room table in the White House). If you want to buy furniture still made in the USA go buy your bedroom at Stickley or Karges and pay four times, at least , what you paid at Thomasville.
If you were actually told by the sales person that it was made here and that it was cherry through and through, that is a hard thing to prove unless you recorded the conversation. I suggest that if those issues were that important to you, you should have done a little more research before investing your $5000. Buyer beware........Thomasville is still an excellent product for the money, you are getting exactly what you paid for.
As far the drawer issue, you should have ask for and gotten another dresser, one that is checked thoroughly before it leaves the warehouse!
I have seen that happen more times than I wish to count.
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Mimi is spot on. Even the "finest" home furnishings are made overseas. Several US manufactured furniture companies bring in frame parts to cut down on labor costs. A few American companies, like Bassett, build a good portion of thier upholstered and dining pieces entirely in the US, although even their floor is supplemented with imported case goods. Hopefully, your designer will be educated enough to steer you in the right direction. I caution anyone who is shopping to make a decision based solely on what they read online. Do your own homework about the peice(s) that you are shopping for. -
Inappropriate?Drexel Heritage and Henredon just sold out to China as well. Ralph Lauren furniture will now be made through Victory instead of Henredon. An all-american man, he is. I applaud him for refusing to have his line manufactured in China.
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Inappropriate?Thanks for the info about Thomasville. I purchased a bedroom set from the company. I was wondering why the back of the armoire is so flimsy. Now I know cheat material, even though I paid 9,000.00 for the set. Company are taking the jobs to other country and expect us to buy the product. Since I know this, I will not buy from that company anymore. That is why the economic is in such a mess and people are out of work. Buy USA products and keep the people working
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?AS A FURNITURE SALESPERSON FOR 28 YEARS I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. WE MADE VERY GOOD FURNITURE HERE IN THE STATES BUT, NO ONE WANTED TO PAY THE PRICE. NOW IT IS MADE ELSEWHERE AND WE ARE REALLY PAYING THE PRICE. .
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Last year I paid several thousand dollars for several pieces of Thomasville furniture. Since then many of the pieces have developed very noticeable cracks in the furniture's joinery. I've been told that the humidity levels in the Chinese factories, where the furniture was made, may have a different level of humidity than my home. It's strange that this has only happened with Thomasville's Chinese-made furniture and none of the furniture in the other 8 rooms of my home. I attribute the cracks more to Thomasville's poor design and craftsmanship. In addition to our American-made furniture, we also have furniture that was made in Canada, England, Germany, and Denmark -- and none of those pieces have the numerous joinery cracks that we are seeing throughout our Thomasville Chinese-made furniture. -
Inappropriate?The main problem is not where the furniture is made but about profits and who's pockets they are going into. Years ago CEO's did not make billions by sacrificing quality and screwing the customer. There was a time when workmanship, pride and quality of product was the goal of every manufacturer. Products were made to last, until greed set in. I have furniture made in the 30's through the 60's and will last another 60 or 70 years. Do you think the furniture of today will be tomorrow's antiques?????
Now the reverse is true. All products are made to last a very short time so the turn-around time to replace is very short resulting in more profits. As for Thoamsville's salespeople, they are on commission so they profit by this practice. We all need to be aware. We make all of our major purchases with credit cards that offer purchase protection and are not afraid to file lawsuits if necessary. -
Inappropriate?I was just going on the website to look for all new bedroom furniture and a new dining table and chairs, etc. Decided against Thomasville based on these comments. Thanks for saving me time and aggravation. Also $! Guess I'll try another manufacturer- although they will probably be the same. At least I will recve better cust. serv. - maybe at a lower cost. Does anyone make real furniture anymore- I'm sure it's very expensive.
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Yes, try Tom Seely furniture. It is solid wood and handbuilt in West Va. I bought a dining room table, chairs, and sideboard about 15 years ago from them. It is the nicest furniture I have. It's simple, but true quality. -
Inappropriate?the chinese will put all these american companies out in time, thomasville name wont mean anything once everyone realizes its china made, why pay 5000? might as well go to ashley furniture and pay 1500 for a set if your gonna buy china made, thats what these american companies fail to realize when they leave!
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Inappropriate?I was looking at the Thomasville website since they are advertising an upcoming sale and noticed this site. Thank you for the warning about the quality of your Thomasville products. It is unfortunate that certain companies refuse to stand behind their products. There are plenty of other furniture companies out there and I will now reconsider purchasing their products as well as warn others to scrutinize their purchases before accepting delivery!
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Inappropriate?Like I said earlier, you may have to build your own furniture if you want it made in the states....if you really want American made you will have to pay 4 times as much as what you pay at Thomasville.....I do believe the American public has already made that choice....disposible furniture, that's what you want..that's what you get!!!
Mimi
I’m serious as a heart attack
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I just bought a house and would like it furnish it with really good sturdy durable and elegant furniture, I was thinking about Thomasville, unitl I read this site, I will try Stickley and Karges. Are there any other American owned and made furniture stores that exist that you are aware of? thanks -
Actually, there are still a few companies that build in the US at somewhat reasonable prices. I don't think that 4 times a Thomasville price is realistic unless you go to the totally uppity places. There is a company in NC called CarolinaChair at carolinachari.com that I considered and received a quote from. The brother and sister are incredibly helpful and while they may be more expensive than the cheaper brands, they were the same price as Thomasville for the sectional sofa that I wanted and it was made at their family plant here in the US! These companies are out there, it's just harder to find them. Someone else mentioned a place in West Virginia that makes dining sets... the point is that they are out there. -
Inappropriate?Add me to the list of people disappointed with Thomasville. I purchased some office furniture last year and the salesperson claimed she didn't know where it was made when I inquired and would only offer that Thomasville has been making furniture in North Carolina for over 100 years. She must've been a politician in another life.
The furniture arrived with issues. Namely damage from shipment to the desk top that had been poorly repaired. I was told by the representative that came to my house to repair it that 85 percent of their furniture arrives damaged and has to be repaired. She said it all comes from "overseas" now and it's nearly impossible to get a perfect piece back to the U.S.
It took nearly a year to get the desk top issue resolved. They tried four times to replace the top. Each time the replacement was also damaged with varying quality repairs having been made. On the fourth attempt, I received one of satisfactory quality.
I still have a variety of smaller issues that I decided to live with. Overall the furniture is sturdy and seems solid but it makes such a long journey to the U.S. from China that from my experience getting something that isn't damaged is difficult.
I have a whole house to furnish and would've bought a lot more Thomasville furniture but after this experience, I've decided to go with other manufacturers. My opinion is that Thomasville is a company living off their reputation rather than living up to it. -
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You're going to look at Karges and Stickley as an alternative to Thomasville? Are you prepared to spend $10,000 to $15,000 for a buffet? That's about average for Karges. How about $3,000 for one dining room chair (without upholstery)? That's about average for Karges. If you want the finest money can buy you had better be prepared to pay for it. Most people don't have a clue as to how much real "heirloom" quality furniture costs. The initial complaint above says that they paid $5,000 for a bedroom set. That may be a lot of money to these buyers but in the world of truly "heirloom" quality furniture there is no such thing as a $5,000 bedroom set. Try $25,000+ as an entry level and you're being more realistic. As for complaints about Thomasville, there are two sides to every story. If you think you've been cheated go see a lawyer. If the lawyer says that you have a case, go file it. If the lawyer says you don't have a case, quit whining. Thomasville offers an excellent product FOR THE MONEY. Thomasville is very competitive FOR THE MONEY. If you expect Karges or Stickly for the price of Thomasville, you just don't understand how expensive it is to manufacture real "heirloom" quality furniture in the USA. -
Thomasville's reputation is not worth anything. Where is the one (JUST ONE) story about Thomasville doing the right thing from the second the customer walks into the store through resolution of a complaint. I have yet to find one positive story. The numbers don't lie.
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Inappropriate?Never again will we shop at Thomasville. We were drawn to the style and quality of furniture and customer service representation. After being sold a beautiful dining room table and 10 upholstered chairs, we found out on delivery day that there is no possible way 10 chairs (forget the people sitting in them) would fit around the table. Our salesperson sold us this set knowing our expressed intent was to comfortably seat 10. After the debacle, we looked on Thomasville.com and saw that our table and chairs are described to seat 6-8 ---NOT 10!---We went back to the store to further discuss the product discrepancy and the sales person stands firm that this table comfortably seats 10. Keep in mind the website says 6-8 and the "revised" product sheet in their store has "10" crossed out and now says "8". They deny changing the product sheet after our initial visit. After months of attempted communications with the store manager and regional manager, we got nowhere. Thomasville is charging us a hefty 35% restocking fee even though this is clearly an error on their salesperson's part. This situation and their reputation could have been saved if they admitted their error and fully refunded our money. Instead, Thomasville defrauded us and caused us to lose $1800. In return, they have forever lost our business and our friends and family's business. One day they will be filing for bankruptcy not understanding why they don't have quality customers anymore.
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Inappropriate?If you are unhappy with your treatment from Thomasville or a particular sales person, another way to handle it is to go to the Thomasville website and email them, mentioning the salesperson's and manager's name. Everytime there is a complaint re: a particular store or person, that complaint goes as a black mark on their record.........anything to keep it from happening again.
Mimi
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Inappropriate?We also left messages with the VP in charge of sales. The calls were not returned. I don't think Thomasville cares whether we leave "a black mark" on their record. Hopefully potential customers read postings like these and decide to purchase elsewhere.
I’m still frustrated.
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Lisa,
Don't call a VP of sales. That is not what they do....
From the Thomasville website:
My local Thomasville retailer has not resolved my concern. What should I do next?
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Inappropriate?I had no choice but to take them to court when this happened to me. I took photos of the furniture I ordered and the furniture I recieved. I brought the repair people, the sales person and the manager of the store to court. I won. They replaced the furniture with new and refunded the purchase price. Don't settle for 2nd rate products or service. We are becoming to used to shabby quality and service in this country. Stand up and demand what you paid for. Don't settle for less.
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BeachBuns,
It's nice to hear that you won. I am dissapointed that you needed to take these steps. I am looking to purchase furniture from Thomasville. I found a Bedroom set on their web site and visited the showroom. I examined the furniture and it looks like the construction is solid. The set is approx 7k. Certainley not cheap but not expensive. -
Inappropriate?I am so sorry for the major let-down of Thomasville. I've been considering a major bedroom set -- but will now look to Ethan Allen and Arhaus....
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Inappropriate?I was considering a major purchase of Thomasville furniture. Will now find another company. I don't need this kind of aggravation and their evident lack of concern for their customers is unacceptable. When a company doesn't stand behind its product, I spend my money elsewhere!
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Inappropriate?I was interested in purchasing a new leather sofa so I went to the Thomasville dealer here in Colorado. The salesperson told me that Thomasville-Drexel-Henredon have been losing money and Lane was the only part of the company that was showing a profit. The salesperson showed me other higher end (expensive..or should I say "overpriced") pieces but advised that they're all made in China. I'm a "detail person" (hubby called it "anal") but upon closer inspection of sofas and other items I have determined there is an overwhelming abundance of junk out there. It doesn't matter where a product is made as long as there is quality control and pride in workmanship (Lexus, Honda, Toyota) and that starts with the CEOs. I've often wondered...who really owns the factories in China? And, are the companies really losing money or are certain people being paid exorbitant wages with benefits to match? My home has too many mirrors and I couldn't look in one of them knowing I was responsible for a company that pride and quality was not on the list of attributes. After reading the previous posts I have crossed Thomasville off my list until they can show improvements have been made.
I’m very disappointed in Thomasville
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Inappropriate?My mother works for Thomasville Furiture here in NC and she tells me all of the time that it is pure crap. She works in the imports department inspecting items made and shipped in from China. She has told me that factories will ship over enough parts to make 150 pieces and only 40% of those come back sellable and Thomasville still makes a killing. Use this for an example. When itmes come in slightly damaged they will repair it there and ship it out. Sometimes I can buy these pieces and she only has to pay 10% of the total cost. So you spend 250.00 on a side table and I buy it for 25.00. If that doesn't show you how cheap this stuff is made I don't know what will. She said that you can go to Rooms to Go and buy something cheaper that is of the exact same quality. The only place I know of here in NC that still makes all furniture here is Ethan Allen and Bob Timberlake. The only thing still made in NC from Thomasville are their upolstered goods. Basically anything like couches, chairs, ottomans etc. The only part of them that comes from China is the legs. The inner workings, springs, stuffing, fabric...all done here in NC, same thing for Ethan Allen. Basically if you are going to buy Thomasville, limit it to couches etc. Anything else..I suggest Ethan Allen or Timberlake. Another thougt on what the previous people said....If you think Thomasville doesn't care about thier customers you should see how they treat their employees. No heat, no air, old equipment, low pay, and lots of lay offs. The entire city of Thomasville suffered when lay offs started....sooo not a good company to buy from or work for.
I’m suggesting you research other options
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Inappropriate?I went to Thomasville in Ky to purchase a sofa (2). The total cost would have been closed to $ 5000.00. I now have change my mind after reading all of the problem people are having with their products not been made in the United States. Unfortunately, Thomasville has more money than me.
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Inappropriate?Another unhappy customer.
We purchased an expensive sectional sofa over $6000 and had asked the salesperson for firm cushions. She sold us on an upgrade of Spring Down Cushions telling us that these were the firmest cushions available. When we received the sofa, after a day we started to see feathers coming out of the cushions. We had a service call placed and the man who came to look at the sofa said that the cushions we received are not designed for firmness but the exact opposite, they should be for someone who want to sink into the couch. This couch has to be fluffed up after anyone sits on it, it already looks like it's 10 years old and we haven't had it for a month yet.
I had a cheap leather couch that lasted 15 years and I just can't believe the poor quality that Thomasville is selling. My other furniture in the house is Ethan Allen and I wish I had gone with them for this sofa too. They are suppose to be sending me replacement cushions but I still have yet to receive my refund for the upgrade that we purchased. In the mean time, my family room looks like a chicken coop with all the feathers flying out of the sofa each day!
I would not purchase another piece of Thomasville furniture again. Buyer Beware!
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We purchased a dining room table that was made from wood so substantially inferior, it is impossible to refinish it after only 1 year. Their position is that it is out of warranty. I predict Thomasville will be out of business with the type of products and service they are now giving within a few years! -
I work for EA and the furniture is not made in USA.....sorry to burst your bubble. They are made in China or Vietnam. It doesn't get more american then Stickley furniture and that is also being shipped from overseas. If we had the same table made here in the US it might cost you 7000.00 and I dont think consumers would pay for it either. There has to be better quality control in the overseas factories. -
Inappropriate?We purchased a dining room table that is so infereior it can not even be refinished after one year. Shame on you for such poor products and service!!!
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Inappropriate?I am very glad that I have read these comments. I lost my home to fire and had Thomasville furniture for 30 years. I think I had better choose another line of furniture. Thomasville is very expensive, we as Americans want what we pay for. It is really sad that the customer service department will not take care of their customers.
I’m very frustrated.
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A lot of comments on not made in good old USA. Not much is made here anymore. That is a fact. So, then it turns into whether a company 1) has good quality control and 2) makes the situation right if the QC fails and a substandard product is delivered to you.
Thomasville refuses to better their practices and I guarantee this type of thread will do what is necessary to get their attention. It is interesting that as the economy slows, the better companies stay afloat because customers trust them to do the right thing. I mean look at bed bath and beyond. They honor customers rather than make their lives miserable in the event the company sells an inferior product.
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Inappropriate?I share your frustration. We had been shopping for a replacement leather suite for our family room and after passing by numerous cheap made in china offerings at various discount warehouses we ended up at the local Thomasville store. There we found what we were looking for and since I specifically wanted made in the USA we asked the salesperson where it was made (there were no obvious country of origin markings on the floor model). We were assured it was made in the Carolina's.
Well, surprise, surprise - following delivery we in fact found that it was all made in China. We immediately took this up with the store and following various communications with the regional customer service manager were offered the choice of a rebate or for the items to be picked up for a full refund. We took the rebate.
I would encourage you to persist with them and push for a full credit return or a rebate - whatever you are comfortable with. Stores like this simply should not be allowed to misrepresent the origin of the goods that they sell -there are laws out there to protect consumers from such practices. Good luck with getting further satisifaction.
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Inappropriate?About 10yrs ago , I bought a bedroom suite from Braslaus Furniture in Corpus Christi, TX. I spent over $8,000.When the armoire was set up in the bedroom the doors would not close properly (still don't) The salesman insisted that the reason was that my floor was not level and there was nothing they could do about it. They refused any further discussion. We lived in a new house with normal carpet density, but like a fool I bought his excuse. I have even had different people try to fix the hinges, etc. to no avail. Since then, we have moved this piece of furniture to two other new houses and the doors still will not close properly. What a strange coinincidence that every house that I have lived in had an uneven floor in the bedroom!They do not have ANY cusomer service from the dealers who put the fault with the customer. Thank goodness for the internet now where others can come together and share these type of problems and eveyone can be educated. I am ready to completely refurnish a new house now, and this simple door problem will direct me away from Thomasville, and also Braslau's Furniture.
Charles
Corpus Christi,Texas
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Inappropriate?Another concern is that with furniture being made in places like China are they using products that have been banned in the United States as hazardous? I purchased a "Made In China" bench with a cloth covered seat that I was going to use in a sunroom. The chemical smell coming from the bench was so overwhelming that I had to set it outside, hoping the odor would go away. Even after 3 days of sitting outside the strong chemical odor was still very apparent. When I returned the bench the sale associate commented that they often receive things from lamp shades to furniture with overwhelming chemical smells so strong that had made people that worked there sick. Disturbing.
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Inappropriate?I had the same problem. I love USA. I want to buy a USA made dinning room table to help the USA enconomy.
Thomasville people sold me a very poorly made dinning table made in my home town, China. The table is full of dents and scratches. I had it only a few months and the tables was protected under a table cloth. I also got Guardsman Insurance from them. Both Thomasville and Guardsman will not help me and take care my problems. My husband and I are so upset. Help me, please help me!
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Inappropriate?My husband and purchased a home office. They show and sold the bookcase with the ladder. Upon the 3 week delivery we hope to have
I now have to find a ladder for the gold bar that sits at the top of the shelf that is made for the ladder that they do not supply. It is starting to look like after 5k I need to haves someone custom make a ladder for this shelf. What a drag. If you promote it then sell it. Out of my mind, I will let you know about the delivery. We will see. And as of today, it looks like I need to pay my handy man for a built ladder. I say "sell it all or get it off the shelf.
Patti
"best of luck" I bet you wanted quality as we did.
Sorry, not at Thomasville "Iam so disapointed"
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Inappropriate?I am glad that poor quality of construction was mentioned including the
problem with poorly fitting drawers. I was going to look for a desk in the
Thomasville line, but now I am skipping that idea. I hate that people are
being taken for a ride with poorly constructed, cheaply finished, products
from Asian countries including China. We need to lean on the importers
of this stuff. Don't settle for junk at high prices. I received a really nice
huge bookcase from a different company and even it had its flaws, but they
were minor so I kept it. My dining room stuff was made in Italy. It's decently
constructed and moderately priced and it arrived in perfect condition. So
purveyors of Chinese and other Asian junk had better sit up and take
notice.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Wake up America...we sold the farm along time ago! NOTHING IS MADE IN AMERICA!! A bedroom suite with 28 drawers for about $5000. You got a killer deal...what the hell did you think you were buying???? America, you wanted it you got it...cheap !@#$ from China. I sell furniture we can only sell what you will purchase...the cheaper the better...oh by the way can I get a discount since I bought soooo much? You made your bed lie in it. We don't even have the manufacturing facilities in place any more to make furniture...let alone appliances, electronics etc. Wise up it's over for us in the US. We are on the verge of collapse and your going to now hurt the company that gave you that screaming deal...!@#$!!
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Emma, After reading through this thread, I think you have it backwards. If there are only one or two furniture manufacturers still making furniture in the USA, we can only purchase what you sell. You think paying $5,000.00 for a piece of furniture that's junk is a screaming deal? That speaks loudly of what's wrong with this picture. Thomasville desserves what they get if they turn their backs on their customers after they get money in hand. Read the post from the person whose mother works for Thomasville in NC. They are able to purchase the damaged, returned merchandise at cost - 1/10th of the price that it's being sold for. I have trouble feeling sorry for Thomasville, or any furniture company that sells junk furniture for high prices. I think I'll stick to buying antiques. At least you know up front how it's going to hold up with age. -
Inappropriate?I feel very enlightened by this information. I have been exploring furniture by both Thomasville and Century, in the belief they were comparable, because price-wise they are very similar. However, I find that with Century I can actually call the company in North Carolina and ask questions about this and that, and also it would appear that their furniture is actually made in North Carolina. (It is described as hand-constructed, and there are many custom options which is kind of nice.) Thomasville's sofa had sinuous springs, although the sales lady originally told me they were 8-way machine-tied coils, which may or mah not be critical to quality. But Century's website breaks down exactly how they build their furniture so you can use your eyes and see it. It seems to be to be very well-constructed, but of course I am no expert. Given that Thomasville's furniture was incorrectly represented, and the fact that their sofa actually came in at a higher price than Century's comparable model, I think that these days one has to really check up on companies before shelling out the cash. You do NOT always get what you pay for, but perhaps for some the act of paying more makes it seem better somehow.
I appreciate the information contained in this dialogue, although I think maybe Emma should try to relax a little. Furniture is not killing America, we have others to blame for that. And ourselves.
I certainly do hope that I will not regret purchasing Century's furniture, but so far everything I'm researching seems pretty positive
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Exactly what I'm talking about, keep deluding yourself that Century is made in the US, you will be so dissappointed when it comes in that it is stamped China, Phillipeans or Viet Nam. Hell you might even post that the nice sales people in NC "incorrectly represented" their product. The point is Kim, that when people post negatively with only the intent to hurt the company that they just did business with, what good does it do? You buy into the fact that Thomasville is crap after reading and delude yourself into thinking that Century will be better...or maybe you work for Century and this is just a good plug for their furniture. Got to go relax a little. -
Exactly what I'm talking about, keep deluding yourself that Century is made in the US, you will be so dissappointed when it comes in that it is stamped China, Phillipeans or Viet Nam. Hell you might even post that the nice sales people in NC "incorrectly represented" their product. The point is Kim, that when people post negatively with only the intent to hurt the company that they just did business with, what good does it do? You buy into the fact that Thomasville is crap after reading and delude yourself into thinking that Century will be better...or maybe you work for Century and this is just a good plug for their furniture. Got to go relax a little. -
Exactly what I'm talking about, keep deluding yourself that Century is made in the US, you will be so dissappointed when it comes in that it is stamped China, Phillipeans or Viet Nam. Hell you might even post that the nice sales people in NC "incorrectly represented" their product. The point is Kim, that when people post negatively with only the intent to hurt the company that they just did business with, what good does it do? You buy into the fact that Thomasville is crap after reading and delude yourself into thinking that Century will be better...or maybe you work for Century and this is just a good plug for their furniture. Got to go relax a little. -
I really don't think the posts here are trying to hurt Thomasville. I am an advocate of Consumer Reports and as a wise consumer I research products before I spend my hard earned dollars. We need to let people know of problems or issues we've encountered when dealing with any company. Silence is acceptance. Emma was right when she said "we can only sell what you will purchase" and as long as we continue to buy we are validating the 'quality' that is being sold to us. If we don't like the ride we need to get off the train. Just think, if Americans had implemented Edward Deming's quality control theory we would be the manufacturing giant of the world instead of Japan. -
Inappropriate?I own a furniture restoration shop. About 5 years ago my wife and I went into the furniture store and inspected the Thomasville Martinique Bedroom furniture that was on display. My wife and I ordered the set that we looked at. The Quality of what we recieved was so different from what was on display, that I went back to the store thinking I may have overlooked the quality of the set on display. Nope! The set delivered to me was partical board and veneers unlike the set on display. The drawers were not dovetailed or aligned properly, unlike the set on display. One drawer accually fell apart as I pulled out on it. When my wife and I went to move a bedside chest down the wall a little, (lifting by the top only) the entire top pulled off exposing the glue and staples which was all that was holding it on. Before the purchase, I had verbally confirmed with the salesman that what I was ordering would be the same as what was on display. I went back to the salesman with the problem. His response was that Broyhill had done him the same way and he just kept it. Not me! I made the store give me a full refund/credit toward the Lexington/Bob Timberlake cherry bedroom set. It was a couple thousand more but the Bob Timbelake brand is absolutely top of the line in quality and I absolutely admire the craftsmanship. I've never been back in that store since and they accually closed the doors about two years ago. I feel that this is common practice with Thomasville. If they want it manufactured in China then they need to be upfront with the quality and not be fraudulent.
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Absolutely!!! They are smoke screen and mirrors. I had one representative tell me they send Americans over to work in China and don't hire any Chinese, so that the quality is still made in USA!!!! Unbelievable. I hope Thomasville and Furniture Brands International go under. In these tough economic times and thanks to sites like this where consumers report Thomasville, the practice of fraud on the consumer will fail. -
Inappropriate?Emma,
I posted a comment here about my experiences with Thomasville not to do harm to the company but so that others can be aware.
Thomasville's sales people refused to tell me where the furniture I was considering purchase of was made. They would only say that the company had been making furniture in North Carolina for over a hundred years implying that the furniture was still made there.
In hindsight, I feel they purposely misreprented the truth and I paid the price of not being more diligent in determining the country of origin of my furniture. The price I paid was in receiving damaged furniture that took nearly a year and a great deal of phone calls and effort to get replaced.
According to the rep from the Thomasville store, the damage was caused by shipping from China (or "overseas" in Thomasville-speak) and 85 percent of their furniture incurs shipping damage so the point of manufacture can affect whether a consumer will receive a satisfactory piece of furniture the first time and it is an important question to ask.
The problem for consumers is that it is virtually impossible to find out where furniture is made in advance of purchase. The salespeople won't tell you. When I have e-mailed the companies and asked, they won't answer and the furniture is arranged in showrooms so that no "Made in China" tags are visible so we, as consumers must share knowledge and experiences to help each other.
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Emma,
I visited two Thomasville stores over the Thanksgiving weekend. Both Sales reps told me the furniture is built in china and one should be the sticker on the back of the furniture. So can this be a step forward. One can only hope. I have not made a desicion yet weather to purchase the set yet. I am still in limbo until I further investigate. -
Inappropriate?I appreciate people willing to share their product experiences, good or bad. I'm sure you won't believe me, Emma, given how you seem to feel in general, but I'm actually a telecommunications design engineer, with no stock or interest in any furniture company. Given the fact that so many contributors have had negative experiences with Thomasville, and that I myself had Thomasville furniture misrepresented to me by a salesperson, the evidence so far is not in their favor. It is just fractionally possible, even in a cynical and greedy world, that one or two products may still be made in the US. If my custom-built furniture doesn't live up to its reputation, at least it won't be because I haven't done due diligence.
Thanks to those who have shared their furniture experiences.
In the matter of websites, however, I find that this one A) never sent me a password, and B) won't let me sign on again to post this comment, and C) "forgot your password" apparently is just a form of expression. I will log a new account and then I will no longer use this website.
I’m happy not to be cynical, but disappointed in this website.
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Inappropriate?contact the better business bureau. I did and I got my money back! I still got stuck with the bad mattress, they would not take it back, but at least I got my money back so I could go get a new one.
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Inappropriate?It is unfortunate that the salesperson you worked with did not have proper training, which is unusual at an authorized Thomasville store. My experience has been excellent with Thomasville. They always replace furniture with manufacturing defects. The finish on the dresser you referred to is minimal, to show the natural beauty of the wood. Most nickel based metals will discolor the wood, easily remedied by putting a felt tab on the bottom. In lower quality polyurethane finished furniture, this is not an issue. All fine furniture needs care to preserve the natural wood. As for the country of origin, the tags at the store show where the furniture was made. Thomasville still makes all its' custom upholstery in Hickory, North Carolina.
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Inappropriate?I worked for another Highend furniture store (gallery) and the old ways of the true Artisans are not used. What the furniture owners are now doing is outsourcing to overseas people (as you saw on your bedroom items). For the finishes and woods they say are custom (ordered) built for the consumer is to get as close as possible to what they advertise and show on the showroom floor. They give these people building your items a base range (finishes) of 4 wood chips to compare when the product is finished.What the owners do not realize is thet the consumer may already have say; Four side chairs and want to add Two armchairs in the SAME finish, this is not going to be a match. As far as anyone higher up in the company you have mentioned, ofcourse they are not going to respond, as they make the big bucks, and believe they do not have to correspond with a consumer.Also the salespeople are educated on the product they sell, but unfortunately for the consumer they lie (I listened to my salespeople and was saddened they felt they had to lie to get the sale!) about the delivery time, they just want your money!!!! I knew I am not telling you all anything new, but it makes me feel better to let you know I had first hand experience and this left a bad image I will carry with me always...thank you
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Inappropriate?I'm glad I saw this on Google, but now don't know what to do. Will retire next year and wanted to buy a new sofa and chair and maybe more for living room apartment in Maine where I grew up. But it sounds like all "top" furniture brands are probably made in China, Henredon, Broyhill, Drexel Heritage, Lane etc. Welcome to the Global NAFTA cheap labor slave plantation.
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Inappropriate?I spent a great deal of money for my "genuine Thomasville Furniture" I saved and scrimpted so I would buy quality. At no time did my salesperson tell me the bedroom furniture was not made in the US. It is from China. Only when the delivery men brought it in my house I noticed the "Made in China" on the back of a very expensive mirror. Needless to say the mirror needed to be replaced because the joints were so out of alignment. I will now shop only USA and with small business. A family business owned furniture store takes pride in what they sell, Thomasville takes pride in the money they make from people who are duped! No more Thomasville for me.
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Inappropriate?I wish that I had read this a few weeks ago. We purchased the Benjamin leather sectional sofa from thomasville in Fairfield, CA about three weeks ago. Our salesperson (who happened to be the store manager), lied about delivery timelines in order to entice us to purchase. He promised delivery in one week...we are going on the third week and still no sofa. We've emailed Thomasville, and obviously, they don't give a rat's @$$ about our delivery problem, nor about the fact that they employ liars. I got back the standard, blow-off, we are sorry for your delivery problems email (they maintain that our sofa is coming from North Carolina). I fired off a nasty email explaining that i was more mad that i was lied to, but have not yet gotten a response.
I was also excited about getting an exceptional deal on the sofa...$4,000 on sale from $7,295...i guess after reading this I now know why it was on sale. I hope that, if our furniture ever arrives, it is at least well constructed. We currently own La-Z-Boy furniture, and it has held up through 2 international moves and three local moves in 4 years. We only replaced it because our cat urinated on the chair because he was mad at us for declawing him! :) Unfortunately, there were not any La-Z-Boy stores in our local area...now I wish I would have looked harder.
I’m mad that I've waited so long for my sofa!
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I ordered and paid for the dinning table on 09/03/07. The salesperson of Thomasville told me I would get it in three weeks. They delivered the table on 12/26/07.The table was made poorly and is now full of dents and scraches. I purchased the insurance from Thomasville. It does not cover dents and scraches. I called everyone in Thomasville. They are not going to do anything about it. -
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Inappropriate?Has anyone noticed that "several of the people" who are participating in this thread of conversation are not only "extremely defensive" about Thomasville, but they're also "unusually knowledgeable" about Thomasville's entire product line? They sure do seem like they're Thomasville employees, don't they? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a ............
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Inappropriate?I purchased a Thomasville sideboard around $2,000 on January 2007. The veneer is coming loose on the top. I called Thomasville and they are saying it is out of warranty as of January 2008. Their repair person told us the whole top needs to be replace and Thomasville no longer makes that sideboard any longer. Their solution was to give me an 800 # for a repair person and I will have to pay the full cost. I too thought it was coming from North Carolina and when it was delivered I found it was made in China.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?thast whats wrong with this hole country. GREED! everyone wants to be a millionair. its not other countries that will destory us, we will do it ourself. from the inside out, ship jobs over sea's , let anyone in the us, with or with out papers, n let them send the us dollar back to there home. keep the wage low, and we allow it,...let insurance companies use our credit score's cuz theyr bad,..as an excuse to way over charge us. every single place here has a system to get every single last penny out of our hands..and we wounder why theres so many people selling drugs,.such violence in the usa....you cant make it on 10 dollars an hour here! let alone 6 or 7 dollars. poor quality, insane prices..!@#$ service..service over sea's..and we do nothing about it, n they laugh all the way to the bank! and we let them!i wish people would just not pay crazy prices for things and they might just go down! but no, we have to have it now, even if i have to get a loan for that 42'' plasma tv! i got to have it! if it was 10,000 dollars i bet people here wouldnt blink an eye,.they'd go to the back , get the loan,.or charge it..becuz they just cant go without the newest thing.i guess its our fault, not the biz people,..cuz what ever the price tag is, we'll pay it!
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Are you SMARTER than a 1st Grader????????? Spelling and correct grammar you idiot!!! -
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Inappropriate?I would like to share our experience with Thomasville Furniture. On July 15th of this year we ordered an 8 piece office furniture set from the local outlet in North Olmsted, Ohio. We also had a very nice salesperson and we were advised it would be 8 to10 weeks before it would deliver. On November 10th of this year the furniture arrived to our home. The two gentlemen that delivered it were curtious and careful. Once the furniture was in place we inspected it and found several problems. Back panel boards popped loose (staples broke loose). A large chunk of fiberboard broke off of one of the top bookshelf sections. The top molding on a freestanding book shelf has a large gouge in it. The leveling bolts up through the bottom framework were installed off center making it impossible to fit the wrench onto them (the wrench was supplied). The glass top on the desk was missing clear plastic spacers the sit between the glass and the wood top of the desk. The glass does not fit flat. There are two large gouges in the top of the wood desk that were repaired with a colored magic marker and is very obvious even standing back from the desk. There is a small gouge on the hutch door that was also colored in with a marker.
Total cost of the furniture - $6,000.00
We called the store immediately and got transfered to the service department which we had to leave a message that there were issues with the furniture. One week went by with no call back from the store so we contact the store manager only to find out she had left the company and that there was a new manager. The new manager explained that he was new to the position and that he would look into it and get back to us that day. 3:30 pm no phone call back so we called again and left a message with the sales manager who explained the new manager was not going to be in the next day and that he was going to be off of work all next week as well. We persisted that something needed to be done and the sales manager advised he would contact the manager to let him know. The store manager called back and scheduled an appointment for the following Monday (when he was suppose to be out of town). the manager did arrive, looked over the areas of concern, took pictures and advised he would take care of this.
5 days now after the store manager looked at our furniture and no response back. Here is the kicker, we opted for the 0% interest, 0% down, 12 months same-as-cash. The finance company, GE Money Bank, completed the transaction, paid Thomasville and started our payment schedule on September of 2008.
We are going to provide Thomasville with another week to resolve these issues and will update this once we are satisfied.
I’m Angry
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Outraged in Olmsted,
Sorry for your problems and hope all your issues get resolved soon. Did you buy the Workstyles collection? Did your salesperson check to see if everything was in stock at the time of purchase? If not, the dates are available to the sales staff to keep you advised at time of purchase and if a delay develops. The leveling bolts can be tricky at times as they seem to move away from the hole as weight is applied. The delivery people should have leveled the items for you. I have not had a problem with "plasticizer migration" on the spacers that come with the glass tops, but that's not to say it can't happen. The ones the factory sends out have adhesive on one side to apply to the glass top. The store you bought from is an independent Thomasville and not one of the current 42 corporate stores just for your information.
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We are having similar problrms with Thomasville of Vienna. Our whole dining room set and curio look like they were built by 5th graders. We've had to hire an attorney to get our money back. We don't trust this company -
They always have a "new" manager. I think Thomasville is overdue for a class action suit. Note that credit companies have a provision that if the store does not resolve your concerns you are not liable for payment. Check your agreement.
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Inappropriate?Outraged in Olmsted,
Don't use the plastic spacers Thomasville provides. They will remove the finish from the desk top if you ever have to remove the glass. Either place the glass directly on the wood or buy some felt based pads. The plastic somehow reacts with the wood and delaminates the finish.
In my case, the original desk top was damaged and had to be replaced. When the glass was removed to replace the original desk top, it ripped the finish off in the four corners. The Thomasville delivery guy told me to put the glass directly on the wood on the new desk top. He said the spacers almost always damage the finish. Maybe that's why yours didn't include them. They may have finally figured out that they do more harm than good.
Also, I forgot about some of the levelers being installed off-centered. I had that problem too. They are pretty much uesless because of the poor quality installation.
Good luck with getting the issues resolved. My experience was that the people here in the USA did keep trying until they made me happy but they had to send four desk tops before I got one that hadn't incurred some kind of shipping damage on its trip from China. -
Inappropriate?I WAS seriously thinking about buying a Thomasville Hemingway home entertainment unit (Credenza, Media Cabinet & Pier Cabinets). After reading this, I think I'll continue my search.
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Inappropriate?Thomasville Furniture is junk. Period. Their employees are scam artists. The list continues ... I would write them any time you have an issue, document your communication (keep a copy of the letter), and then contact counsel if they have not followed their warranty.
Thomasville and their parent company is a fraud. I hope the company goes down in flames. The furniture is 0 percent American and they fail to give you benefits (oh like honoring their warranty) for the premium you pay for the crap.
Stay away. This is the way they function...they have a "dealer" so when you write them, they punt to the dealer. The dealer then ropes you along for as long as possible. So, again, write them, certified mail, and then if they fail to respond sue for breach of warranty and under consumer protection statutes of your state. Enough is enough. Thomasville, I guarantee you, has developed this scheme so they can maximize all profit.
I purchased over 4K dollars of furniture in Richmond, VA, from Thomasville. The post sale service was awful. Media reports on the company are pitiful. One poor guy ordered and paid for furniture and had to wait 8 months!!!
I’m disappointed
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Inappropriate?My wife and I just bought a dining room set and matching curio( Bogart Luxe) at Thomasville of Vienna, Va. We read all the bad comments people have posted here. The manager Mike and sales person Joanne told us that all these complaints were from SC. and the stores were individually owned but now are corporate owned. Not to worry. They told us about all the care taken to make a quality product and ALL the quality control before a piece enters a customers home. Well, ALL, and I mean EVERY piece of furniture that was delivered to us is SERIOUSLY DAMAGED or DEFECTIVE or of the POOREST WORKMANSHIP. The refinisher(from Thomasville) said that he has never had to take so many pictures from one delivery from compromised furniture. The chairs have dents, scratches,brushburn marks where some tried to rub off a stain, a NAIL sticking out of a seat cushion! They even used a different colored/patterened wood to fill in a defect. The table bases have vaneer peeling off the sides. One table leaf has brillo marks shaped like a cross where somone rubbed to hard and took off the finish. The table has dents in the corner. Also, someone put some solution on the top and that area has a "wet" appearance to it. Also there is a yellow block of wood someone used to fill in a defect in the inlay that doesn't match the color of the table. Also, the inlays are not properly lined up down the table. AND, the curio never made it into our house because it looked like someone took a hatchet to the front of it. Thomasville is refusing to give our deposit back. We DO NOT trust them to redeliver us replacement pieces. With all our initial concerns we feel that since ALL the furniture is poor, There's No Way the replacements are top quality or they would have shipped them the first time. The manager is cocky and arrogant and has simply stated to me" Cancellation is not an option". Period. We have retained an attorney and filed a complaint with the BBB and FTC and Consumer Affairs. I have never bought anything in my life so poorly made and been treated so disrespectful by people that will DO ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING to make a sell, then treat you like dirt after.
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He lied to you about the fact that Thomasville owns the stores. The store in Newport News is owned by a franchise. A lot of stores are franchise.
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Inappropriate?i wish i would have found this site prior to my thomasville purchase! i'm having the same problem. i get nothing but the "run around" and rude comments from the local store manager. it wouldn't be as bad if i had purchased the same exact leather sectional from a different retailer for less than half of what i paid for it at thomasville. in my opinion, thomasville is getting far too much mileage from its reputation!!
i like the idea of filing a complaint and taking this company to court. there is strength in numbers... CLASS ACTION SUIT, anyone??
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Inappropriate?My husband and I looked at Thomasville furniture yesterday, and although it is pricey, it was very attractive and we were considering buying it until we read the posted articles. I did ask the girl where it was made and she said parts were sent from the U.S. to China for assembly. We have looked at Mobel furniture which is manufactured in Ferdinand, Indiana. We were also looking at an entertainment unit called Visions III from Riverside. Does anyone have any information or furniture purchasing experience on either of these companies?
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Inappropriate?Outraged in Olmsted again - Providing an update to my first message.
It is the 29th of November and received a call from a furniture repair company in Sandusky Ohio (about an hour and a half drive west of us) and they advised they were instructed to schedule an appointment. They said the soonest they could look at our furniture would be December 18th. We persisted to get an earlier date and they said that was the best they could do. We didn't even bother calling the store because the manager is out of town until Tuesday December 2nd.
Proceeding with a certified letter to the store. Already called GE Money Bank and they are sending out a dispute form. Also filing a formal complaint with local BBB.
I’m Outraged
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Inappropriate?My husband and i were thinking about visiting Thomsonville furniture, they came out in this big 18 wheel truck about a week after my daughter and her husband moved into the estate, the man driving the truck said after i ask him if they had a store in the Houston area " no we don't i'm only in this area for this weekend, i wil not be back to houston in a few years, i will be back in North Carolina"
After reading all the problems from customers who have bought the furniture, we're going to shop somewhere else for our bedroom suite, you spend 5,000 on your bedroom to find out it's made in china...come on get a rope... !
These stories are so sad to read, but they do educate the public.
Thank you
Mr.& Mrs. Andre Parker
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This WAS NOT THomasville Furniture but a scam company!!! Could you not be a little smarter!!! -
Inappropriate?Thanks everyone for this eye-opener!
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Inappropriate?I purchased 3 tables, a sofa, 2 chairs, and an ottomas from Thomasville. I spent lots of money believing they were made in USA. I was very disappointed when I found out the tables were made in China. Yes they scratch and chip easy. The sofa legs came in chipped and they sent someone out to fix them. I felt like I bought scratch and dent items. They did repair the sofa legs but it did take the fun out of it. They had great design service and the room does look great. That was my living room.
Since then I redid my family room. I made sure the furniture was made in the USA. It was also a little pricey but a lot better quality. I bought a Precedent sofa, 2 chairs and on ottoman. Thomasville has great fabrics and it was hard to find quality fabric on the sofa like Thomasville had but this did definately match the fabric quality. Everything came in perfect!
My point is they lose. My dining room set is Thomasville that was purchased 22 years ago and has held up great over the years. That is why I purchased the living room from them 2 years ago. Being disappointed with the quality, they lost the recent sale of my family room. I always try to buy from the USA and try to keep our people working. (I even drive a Dodge!) Soon Washington will be bailing Thomasville out too!
We in America have to wake up and make quality items so we can buy American.
I’m disappointed
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America won't be bailing out Thomasville because there are few American jobs to be lost. FBI, their parent company, sent the most of the jobs to China years ago.
Interestingly FBI just announced the layoffs of 1,400 people who worked in a management/marketing capacity in the U.S. so perhaps the company is beginning to reap what it has sown. Naturally, they blame it on the market downturn but I, and others, are still buying furniture but because of the poor quality of their product, I am not buying from Thomasville.
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America won't be bailing out Thomasville because there are few American jobs to be lost. FBI, their parent company, sent most of the jobs to China years ago.
Though they may not get a bailout, there are signs of distress at the company. FBI just announced the layoffs of 1,400 people who worked in a management/marketing capacity in the U.S. In addition, half of Thomasville's lines of furniture are now listed as 'discontinued' on their website.
I don't know what all that means. Naturally FBI blamed the market downturn for their need to downsize but I, and others, are still buying furniture but because of the poor quality of their product, I am not buying from Thomasville. I suspect others aren't as well. Hopefully they will get the message from consumers and start living up to their reputation instead of trying to continue to live off of it. -
Inappropriate?I'm sorry I didn't discover this website before my office suite was delivered yesterday. "I'm frustrated" above describes my situation, too. About 15 years ago my husband and I purchased a Thomasville diningroom set. It was decent quality. When I shopped for an office suite last month, I thought I'd purchase from Thomasville again because I felt confident in their quality.
Well, things have certainly changed at Thomasville. After delivery of my office furniture, I began setting up my computer and crawling aroung my new furniture. THE QUALITY IS HORRIBLE - BEWARE. Particle board abounds, the veneer is a thin as a sheet of vellum - I can scratch it off with my fingernail, no kidding. There are different shades of stain on the collection, so there's no matching amongst the suite of furniture. Some pieces had different hardware, broken off pieces of particle board on shelves, screws that didn't match, shipshod "craftsmanship."
I am literally sick to my stomach about the whole thing. I put in a call yesterday after cleaning each piece and noticing these things. The guy at the dealership said someone would call me in a couple days. I called again today and asked for a corporate number. I left a message on the voicemail of a woman named "Sharon." She hasn't called back yet - perhaps because it is difficult to get business done on a Friday anymore.
I am upset and feel defrauded by Thomasville. I feel like loading up all 7 [unmatching] pieces in my truck and dumping them on the doorstep of the Thomasville from which I purchased this junk.
I’m outraged and disappointed
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Inappropriate?I live in Calgary Alberta and have been searching for our kitchen table that should be here Dec. 13 and it look like scrooge is alive and well. My search has leaded me to NEFCO in Winnipeg.
We ordered a new custom kitchen table for my wife’s newly renovated kitchen only to find out that we have been lied to for the passed two week by the members of Thomasville furniture on delivery, so drove to the store and found most of the show room is empty and the doors are locked. When I read reports in the Winnipeg Free Press they are very similar to our story.
I believe that my deposit of $1,500.00 will be refunded by visa if I do not receive it after 30 of delivery date or if I can prove that Thomasville furniture in Calgary has filed for bankruptcy.
Be carefull when putting a depost on items you are going to receive. In these hard times I feel that this will happen more often.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Here is the link to Furniture Brands International's layoff
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/st...
Furniture Brands announced plans Thursday to eliminate 1,400 jobs across all functions, a decrease of 15 percent of the company’s domestic work force.
None of the cuts are in St. Louis, said John Hastings, a company spokesman. The layoffs will occur at plants in North Carolina and Mississippi, he said.
The cuts include management and hourly workers and will save the company $20 million a year.
Severance costs associated with the reductions are expected to total between $8 million and $9 million, most of which will be reflected in the company’s fourth-quarter financial results.
Chief Executive Ralph Scozzafava said the cuts are an “inevitable response” to the slumping furniture sales environment and recessionary economy.
“By aligning our costs with anticipated lower sales volumes, we are positioning the company for 2009 and beyond,” he said in the announcement.
“With the eventual return of historical consumer spending patterns, Furniture Brands will be well positioned to leverage our more efficient cost base into improved profitability.”
Furniture Brands reported a net loss of $41.7 million in the third quarter of this year, following a loss of $23.9 million in the second quarter.
St. Louis-based Furniture Brands International Inc. (NYSE: FBN) manufactures furniture under the Thomasville, Henredon, Drexel Heritage, Maitland-Smith, Pearson, Laneventure, Broyhill and Lane brands.
I’m Frustrated
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Inappropriate?Thanks for the information about Thomasville. I was getting ready to buy a bedroom set. I think the point of all this is one should get what you pay for. Anything over $1500 for a bedroom set made in China is too much. Those who think that you can not buy a good American made bedroom set for the price of Thomasville have not done the research.
This goes for auto business. Do the research and you'll find out.
Invest in OUR future America so we don't have to do it with our tax money! There are a lot of small furniture companies out there that treat thier employes with respect and health care.
http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/bamw/...
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Inappropriate?If you can get the local "news team" to address your problem, it will get alot of unwanted attention. The local Lazyboy furniture store had alot of bad publicity and made good on their promises. Refunds may be your only way to go.
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Were do you go when American is always foreign? Most consumers have forgotten about the local guy or Amish furniture that is of excellant quality. If it doesn't come in a big box chain we don't buy it! We have to change the way we think about purchasing before going to a news team will do any greater good. -
Inappropriate?I ordered and paid for $14,000 in furntiure from Thomasville in Jacksonville, FL 2 mos ago and was told that by my store sale rep that my furntiure has been "in" for 2 weeks now and I should get a call for delivery any day...the delivery status folks have no record of my purchase!!! The store tells me that the delivery folks are backed-up so that's why they're saying that..b.s.! Something's not right about this co. Furntiture Brand Intl advised me to call the Thomasville Dept. Supv. for Consumer Services (Cindy Walsh Tel: 336-472-4022) - I've left her a voice message...let's see.
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wow!! I too am considering a thomasville bedroom set. now i'm not sure WHERE to shop. any suggestions for reasonably priced furniture that's put together nicely? my last bedroom set was by STANLEY and it was perfect. (they're more expensive than the sale at thomasville right now though) probably made in china too i'm guessing after reading these posts. i also had a dining room table and chairs from HOOKER supposedly solid ash with veneers. chairs were perfect but the table was a piece of crap!! you could see several areas that were patched (plain view) and after a couple of years a huge crack appeared on the table top. i also looked up STICKLEY'S site and guess what??? they have a factory in Vietnam!! but they DO tell you this right on their site along with the fact that they have factories in NY and NC. again, any suggestions on where to shop? -
Inappropriate?Sorry to hear you have had such problems with your new furniture! I am a furniture repair tech for a major upper end furniture retailer. I am sad to say you will not find much better from many even high manufacturers. As far as tville not getting your drawers right, that's a crock! Never seen a cabinet I couldn't adjust in some way. Sounds like a cop out to me. Nothing else you stated surprises me either. My employer now even wants all employees including myself to remove anything that says anything about a piece being from oversees. I have refused to succumb to this so far and am trying to just get of the business I love very much. ONLY ONE PROBLEM! All of our jobs are oversees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm almost done hear but I'd like to make one more statement. We did this to ourselves Americans decimated the furniture industry! Our own greed for cheaper and cheaper products made it so that our industry could no longer support its highly skilled workforce. I bet not one high paid factory worker at an auto plant could even make one part for a piece of high end furniture built to last! A truely skilled worker is well worth the money paid for him/her to do their jobs. So suck it up you as americans asked for it and you got what you wanted!!! If you want something differant become an informed consumer. Try buying from the local woodworker. You will get exactly what you want then. Leave the MFR's alone or go out and do something that might actually make a change. Tell our leaders of this fine country that we want our way of doing things back not this wishy washy mamby pamby America. Buy the way our spoken language is English and our country was founded on christian beliefs! Learn them and pay some taxes and you can be american too. If not Did ya' have a nice vacation hear? Now get out!
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Inappropriate?Thank you for your comments. I have now decided not to buy Thomasville--very disappointing. I'm sorry you got swindled.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?There are still a few companies that build in the US at somewhat reasonable prices. I don't think that 4 times a Thomasville price is realistic unless you go to the totally uppity places. There is a company in NC called CarolinaChair at carolinachair.com that I considered and received a quote from. The brother and sister owners are incredibly helpful and while they may be more expensive than the cheaper brands, they were the same price as Thomasville for the sectional sofa that I wanted and it was made at their family plant here in the US! These companies are out there, it's just harder to find them. Someone else mentioned a place in West Virginia that makes dining sets... the point is that they are out there.
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Inappropriate?My husband and I were just going to Thomasville to buy furniture today but thanks to your letter, we will cross them off our list. We hope you get some financial satisfaction since they obviously have sold out their workmanship.
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Inappropriate?Outraged in Olmsted back to provide a recap on our delaings with Thomasville Furniture in North Olmsted Ohio.
I am happy to say with some patience, offering solutions to the store manager that would satisfy our needs and having a new store manager who was willing to work with us, we were able to come to an amicable solution.
Luckily the local store had the exact furniture set we purchased and we swapped the undamaged pieces in the store with the damaged pieces that were delivered to our home. It took some doing but everything worked out for the best and we are now satisfied.
Thank you to everyone at the North Olmsted Ohio store for working with us!
I’m Satisfied
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Inappropriate?I currently work for Thomasville. And yes a portion of the furniture and case goods are made and assembled in China. Furniture falls into two catagories. Quick ship and custom. If you go into a showroom and choose a piece that only comes in certain fabrics or leathers it is considered quick ship and the order is usually sent to china. However, if you go in a pick a piece then pick your own fabric or leather making it a custom piece and one of a kind. It will be made here in NC. I speak from personal expierence that when we get the roll of fabric that your piece comes out of, we are very carefull to make that come out perfect. We have to, our jobs are on the line. The same cannot be said for china. And we are less than thrilled to be watching our jobs go overseas. Just know that not all furniture is made in China. When picking out a piece, ask the sales person where the piece will be constructed. They should know. just don't write off thomasville. some of it is still made in USA. there is alot of people counting on consumers to by the furniture. if not we end up in the unemployment line. thank you for at least giving it a shot, sorry it didn't turn out the way it should have.
I’m worried for the future
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Inappropriate?I was just going to browse the Thomasville web site for a table when I came across this write-up. I think it is disgraceful what you have gone through...and I want to congratulate you for not just taking it! As it happens, I was in a furniture store yesterday, and was told that everything was made abroad these days except for an Amish company in PA who make quality furniture.
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Inappropriate?I was just going to browse the Thomasville web site for a table when I came across this write-up. I think it is disgraceful what you have gone through...and I want to congratulate you for not just taking it! As it happens, I was in a furniture store yesterday, and was told that almost everything was made abroad these days except for an Amish company in PA who make fine quality furniture.
But as for the Thomasville sales person trying to pass off their furniture as being made in the U.S.A. - that is completely unacceptable, especially after you had asked that specific question. C.Ryan -
Inappropriate?I just purchased a dining room set ($6+K) and the table had some marks on it.The furniture company came to my house, took the table back to thier shop for repair, and returned it to me. It looked like someone took a Brillo pad over the top. I sent it back and it came back today with ALL the finish removed from the top.The two leaves are still very shiny.
I wish that I would have found this site before purchasing the Thomasville dining room set.
I’m very frustrated and angry
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Inappropriate?You Bitch about the price and you don't buy, too much, what is a company to do but find cheaper ways to make the product. FYI most all furniture is made outside the USA. Pay for it or shut up.
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Inappropriate?I was in St. louis last week on vacation. I went to visit a Thomasville store. I currently own three thomasville pieces. I am looking for a new dining table and chairs. Every piece and i state again every piece in the store on display had veneer that was de-laminating and lifting up. I was shocked. I brought it to the attention of the clerk. She stated they have been having problems with quality control. I have decided to start looking for older dining sets that were made in USA in the 50's 60's 70's. Even if it means i have to have a table top refinished. For the Ethan Allen fans out there, up until 3 or 4 years ago, there were two plants in my home town here. They are closed down. They are sourcing alot of their stuff over seas also. I bought a bedroom set from them. Hardrock maple made in C.T. However that was 5 years ago. Nice stuff.
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Inappropriate?The town i'm from was a huge manufacturer of quality high end furniture years ago. I'm to young to remember. My grandfather and uncles worked in these plants. Names like Union National Furniture, Empire Case Goods,Maddox Table Company and Sterling. There is one company left. Fanchure Chair who just signed a contract to make chairs for The White Press Corp. So sad to see great companies and jobs go over seas. I would rather save money up for a long time and buy quality than the junk that is out there now.
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Inappropriate?Hi.....we ordered the same suite as you described and when it was due to be delivered the store said it was no longer available. It had been discontinued but they located the pieces we wanted at the time. After waiting 8 wks and the store having our down payment, we are back to furniture shopping. After reading this about Thomasville we have decided against it totally now and are looking at Kincaid brand.......American made.
Sorry to hear about your problem.......you have may saved us one though on the topside.
Glad to hear people can put this things into emails to warn others.
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Sandie, i just went to the Kincaid site and 4 of the first 5 beds pictured are made overseas .( check it out !!! ). just like Thomasville & E.A. & all the rest of these furniture manufacters have been forced to open their plants over there to try to keep their heads above water....This is nothing new like it just happened yesterday, this started over a decade ago......Thomasville like E V E R Y O NE out there can make 95% of their customers happy.....................................then their is the other 5% and believe me from time to time I become one the 5% on purchases ' with that being said ****** be your own consumer and come in and touch ,feel , open , sit down. and make your own judgements !!!! thanks ...( yes I do work here and have been in this industry for over 25 yrs......) What I'm saying is COMPARE qualities ..... Dollar for dollar Thomasville is great..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks again T.. -
Sandie, I just went to the Kincaid site and 4 of the first 5 beds pictured are made overseas .( check it out !!! ). just like Thomasville & E.A. & all the rest of these furniture manufacters have been forced to open their plants over there( and leaving a few plants here in the states ) to try to keep their heads above water....This is nothing new like it just happened yesterday , this started over a decade ago..!!....Thomasville like E V E R Y O NE out there can make 95% of their customers happy.....................................then their is the other 5% and believe me from time
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