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Problems with Thomasville Furniture

My wife and I recently purchased a Felicity Sunlit Cherry Bedroom Suite from Thomasville Furniture. Our Thomasville saleswoman had led us to believe that our Thomasville furniture would be made in North Carolina, but when it was delivered we discovered that it was all made in China. Thomasville had built its reputation on delivering high quality American-made furniture from North Carolina -- but it appears that those days are now long gone.

The fit & finish of our Thomasville made-in-China furniture was poor. There's really no other way to describe it. Our bedroom suite has a total of 28 drawers. Many drawers weren't centered in their openings; some drawers were recessed in too far, and other drawers extended out too far. After 2 visits from Thomasville's repair people, we still have: 8 drawers not centered in their openings; 13 that extend out too far; and 7 that are recessed in too far. Thomasville's repair people told us that our remaining problems were non-repairable. So I guess we'll just have to learn to live with this poor quality.

When we purchased our furniture, we specifically asked our Thomasville saleswoman what kind of wood was used in its construction. She told us it was "entirely cherry". When we later asked Thomasville's repair people that same question, they looked at our furniture and readily identified over 5 different species of wood -- just one was cherry, and at least 2 were obscure, unidentifiable Chinese hardwoods. What we actually received was quite different from what we paid for. When we brought this to the attention of the management of our Thomasville dealer, they completely ignored our complaint.

At first glance, Thomasville's construction quality appeared to us to be quite good (i.e., dovetail drawers, etc.). But in places where it wouldn't be quite as obvious to a customer, some of the furniture's joints are held together with staples. That doesn't instill much confidence that the furniture will last for more than a few years. We would have expected to find that kind of cheap construction in bedroom suites that cost under $1,500 -- but not in a Thomasville bedroom suite that cost us over $5,000!

My wife's dresser arrived with a large 10" circular hole in the back of the cabinet. Rather than repairing this damage "before" the furniture was shipped, Thomasville's factory instead tried to conceal the damage by screwing a large Masonite panel over the hole. While Thomasville repaired the damaged back panel "after" we discovered it, the point is that Thomasville deliberately shipped severely damaged furniture to a customer with the hope that the damage would never be discovered. That's not what one would expect from a quality "world class" furniture brand.

Thomasville's furniture is shipped with a Chinese "plasticized" finish. In our experience, it attracts dust like a magnet and unlike a quality lacquered or varnished finish it's relatively soft and easily damaged. According to Thomasville's "printed furniture care instructions" my wife and I are not suppose to allow synthetics, rubber, or plastics to rest on the wood finish as they may damage the finish. That, of course, prohibits placing most lamps, clocks, radios, TVs, pens, etc. on top of your Thomasville furniture unless you first modify the bottoms of those products.

Everything at Thomasville seems to now be focused on charging its customers as much as possible, while at the same time cutting its costs as much possible. Even the screws that hold the knobs to the drawers have been cost-cut. Rather than extending the screws into the knobs by at least 3/8", they just barely touch the knob. The cost savings across an entire bedroom set has to be less than a dollar -- and yet amazingly Thomasville still went for it.

After contacting our local Thomasville dealer several times about many of these problems and receiving no satisfaction, my wife and I wrote to Ed Teplitz, president of Thomasville Furniture Industries -- and also to Ralph Scozzafava, CEO of Furniture Brands International. Furniture Brands International owns Thomasville, along with Broyhill, Lane, Drexel Heritage, Henredon, and Maitland-Smith. Neither of them ever responded to us. That pretty much sums-up our Thomasville customer satisfaction experience.
 
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  • Sandie
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    Hi.....we ordered the same suite as you described and when it was due to be delivered the store said it was no longer available. It had been discontinued but they located the pieces we wanted at the time. After waiting 8 wks and the store having our down payment, we are back to furniture shopping. After reading this about Thomasville we have decided against it totally now and are looking at Kincaid brand.......American made.

    Sorry to hear about your problem.......you have may saved us one though on the topside.

    Glad to hear people can put this things into emails to warn others.
    Thanks
    Sandie ( twoller@centurytel.net)
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    Sandie, i just went to the Kincaid site and 4 of the first 5 beds pictured are made overseas .( check it out !!! ). just like Thomasville & E.A. & all the rest of these furniture manufacters have been forced to open their plants over there to try to keep their heads above water....This is nothing new like it just happened yesterday, this started over a decade ago......Thomasville like E V E R Y O NE out there can make 95% of their customers happy.....................................then their is the other 5% and believe me from time to time I become one the 5% on purchases ' with that being said ****** be your own consumer and come in and touch ,feel , open , sit down. and make your own judgements !!!! thanks ...( yes I do work here and have been in this industry for over 25 yrs......) What I'm saying is COMPARE qualities ..... Dollar for dollar Thomasville is great..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks again T..
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    Sandie, I just went to the Kincaid site and 4 of the first 5 beds pictured are made overseas .( check it out !!! ). just like Thomasville & E.A. & all the rest of these furniture manufacters have been forced to open their plants over there( and leaving a few plants here in the states ) to try to keep their heads above water....This is nothing new like it just happened yesterday , this started over a decade ago..!!....Thomasville like E V E R Y O NE out there can make 95% of their customers happy.....................................then their is the other 5% and believe me from time to time I become one the 5% on purchases ' with that being said ****** Be your own consumer and come in and touch ,feel , open , sit down. and make your own judgements !!!! thanks ...( yes I do work here and have been in this industry for over 25 yrs......) What I'm saying is COMPARE qualities ..... Dollar for dollar Thomasville is great..!!!!!!!!! Thanks again T.........NJ
  • ATL
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    Tom,

    The huge difference is Kincaid still produces most of their furniture in America and they are being upfront about which pieces are sourced outside of America. The proof of that is that you were able to quickly locate that information on their website. The big beef many of us have with Thomasville is that they are deceptive about where their products are made.

    I've been in the stores. I've asked and I couldn't get a straight answe and Thomasville's website provides no clue.

    For those of us who believe America is on the verge of implosion because of reckless CEOs more loyal to the dollar than to America's long term success and because of citizens with a Wal-Mart mentality who only care about low prices, it is vitally important where furniture and everything else we purchase comes from. There are a few of us who choose to put our country ahead of our checkbook. All we are saying is Thomasville needs to provide honest information (like Kincaid) so we can make an informed decision.
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    ATL,
    Many here need to understand what has happened in our country. Jerry Epperson of Mann, Armisteead & Epperson, a company that does reasearch on the Furnishings Industry recently reported that almost 70% of the furniture sold in the US today is imported. That figure didn't include component parts that are imported and assembled here, but did include imported upholstery. If the component parts were included in that number, I would suspect that it might approach close to 90%.

    It really is a sad day for manufacturing in the US.
  • Hi
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    I work for a furniture distributor & I have to say we are extremly dissatisfied with Thomasville. On almost every one of the orders we've placed with them we've had a problem. Whether it was from finish (sent us the incorrect finish on 23k worth of product & didn't admit to fault), quality of the items (plenty of warranty issues on product only a year old), to time commitments promised & not honored and so on. One of the worst was the poor customer service. We've had a good handful of sizable orders (400k+) & the rep once responded in email... "As you may know, given the volume of work that Thomasville does, this really isn't a large order. Oh don't get me wrong I treat each order equally, but in the plants eyes...It's not 700 room Disney property". He also quoted us product, we placed the product a week later & the pricing was higher then he quoted. Again his emailed response "I'm sorry about the pricing. By the time I get copies of the price list, the actual prices have gone into affect. The office will not process the order unless the prices are correct." It was about an $8,000 price difference.

    Needless to say, once the last project is completed we will not be placing any more orders with Thomasville. If our end users make a Thomasville request we will be forced to make other recommendations. If they treat high volume clients in this manner I can only imagine how they would treat the day to day consumer.
     
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  • PEZ
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    In response to the above message, I have some comments.
    I work at a Thomasville store, as a Design Associate. The ordering process is very specific, meaning that if the desired finish is not specified, a standard finish will be used. The design/sales associate is responsible for detailing the order and the only time I have seen the "wrong" finish made is because it was not specified correctly at the time of the order, a very black and white process.

    Also, not all fabrics are appropriate for sofas/chairs. Some fabrics are only meant to be used as accents on pillows. Thomasville has tested all the fabrics and codes them all for (H) Heavy use, (M) Medium or (L) Light- appropriate for accent pillows. The warranty for all items is spelled out, and fabrics and leathers are all covered. The Design/Sales Associate is responsible for recommending the appropriate fabric for the upholstery.

    Regular pricing may change if there is temporary price promotion(Sale), and if an order is received one day after the special price promotion, it is not honored. I have not seen a regular price increase from the company in over a year.

    As far as Customer Service, when I email a question it is either answered the same day or the following day. If I need immediate information, the 800 number puts be into a live Customer Service associate.

    This job is one of the easiest and most enjoyable jobs I have ever had. However, custom upholstery requires attention to detail.
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    Hello,
    I feel the need to clarify a few items in the comment I posted.
    First , yes, the product purchased was contract furniture. Although contract furniture differs from retail, I still felt it was appropriate for me to share my experiences since it is still, ultimately, Thomasville.
    Second, the Thomasville furniture was at the request of the end user. Prior to the first phase of the project, we had never worked with Thomasville (but please note we do work with hundreds off manufactures & countless of new manufactures monthly). This being the case we had the sales rep of Thomasville provide all the recommendations, quotations, pricing, model no’s & etc because we were unfamiliar with the product & wanted to avoid as many errors as possible. Basically we processed the order on behalf of the end user & installed the product. To be specific, the issue with the finish was that the product used on the first phase had been discontinued when we were prepared to order the final phase. We submitted all the correct information to the same sales rep, including correct finish, & the rep provided the information. However, the model no he provided called out a completely separate finish (the finish codes are imbedded to the model no). We sent our purchase order (with the exact information provided by the rep) & it was manufactured in the incorrect finish. However, because our purchase order was submitted with the incorrect model no, Thomasville deemed it our error despite the fact that, again, it was provided by the rep & we had the emails to prove so. The fabrics used were Thomasville fabrics, again, specified by the sales rep knowing the environment that the upholstered items would be used in. This stream is the first we’ve heard in regards to the H, M, and L. Just another item the rep should have mentioned.
    Lastly, we had the specific dates set into place & the rep was made aware of when the order would be officially submitted to Thomasville. So, even if a special promotion was in processes at the time of the quotation, he should have informed us of the end date. Either way, we have special (contracted) discounting with Thomasville & his response was not a promotion ending but that he did not have the correct price list.
    Again, I felt it appropriate to post MY experience with Thomasville. If others have had a better outcome that is fantastic... unfortunately ours was much less then acceptable & we will NEVER work with Thomasville again.
    Warmest Regards
  • Thomasville store
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    PEZ,
    The above message that you commented on, I believe was referring to Thomasville Contract furniture and not Thomasville Retail furniture although the contract reps can still get their hands on the retail goods for their customers.

    Quality for the contract furniture is far from the retail goods, but overall it is a great value for the money. Some of the wood groups do come in multiple finishes, and it's very easy to mislable the cartons in shipping. I've sold some contract goods over the years and it's usually best to sell what is in stock and not wait for expected cuttings.

    Contract is a very different ballgame, but heck they at least still have contract reps to help!
     
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    I was referring to Thomasville Retail Furniture.
    Contract furniture is not branded, and is produced to meet very low costs for hotels etc.
  • TravelingCook
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    Our experiences with Thomasville have been "less than stellar". The sales reps from several of their stores that we've visited have lied about the country of origin, they've lied about the type of wood being used, they've lied about the furniture's construction, and they've lied about the finishes being applied. In most respects, Thomasville's sales reps haven't been any different from most used car dealers. When we brought this to the attention of Thomasville's management, they replied "Most of our stores are independently owned and operated and we have no control over them." That's an unacceptable response -- they could actually do more, but they choose not to!
     
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  • Woody
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    I have been in the furniture repair business for over 15 years now. I have repaired just about every brand that is on the market today. I do have to say that it disappoints me that the sales reps usually have no idea about the construction of how furniture is built and most of the ones I have delt with only know what they have been told. It is a shame that most retailers don't spend the time to train people on the furniture construction. Thomasville is sold as high end furniture but you can can get the same quilty at biglots for a whole lot less.
     
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    Big Lots.... Are you serious??? Woody put the crack pipe down or quit sniffing laquer
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    Big Lots.... Are you serious??? Woody put the crack pipe down or quit sniffing lacquer
  • PEZ
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    Sounds clear to me!
    Unbranded, contract furniture is made to meet very low costs.
    And you want to hold a brand, and what the brand stands for, like quality, performance, value, comfort, design, customer service and the warranties that are part of that brand, responsible? Why not buy the branded product? Because you do not want to pay for those features and benefits.
  • Woody
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    Yes I am serious about the Biglots comment the trick is knowing what to look for in furniture quality you should have some knowledge of how furniture is constructed and at least know the difference between plastic veener and wood veneer because these can fool even the most trained eye, and understand that 85% of furniture produced is from other countries other than the USA. And yes this is very real in the furniture business.
     
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  • Ilana
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    DO NOT BUY THOMASVILLE FURNITURE!!!!!!!!
    I bought the Wunderlust dining set with the modular stacking china cabinet, issues encountered are:
    1 - The delivery was close to two months late as initial table failed the warehouse inspection
    2 - On delivery all the shelving in the china cabinet was BROKEN
    3 - The china cabinet had a large chip
    4 - The bottom piece of the china cabinet was shown in the store and catalogs with wood doors and on delivery they were glass
    5- One of the eight chairs rocked
    6 - The dining room table has the circular buffer marks that they use to sand down the table
    7 - The table protectors that were delivered are the wrong color

    NOTHING with the order was right everything was made in China as the little sticker on the bottom of everything indicated.

    I sent the china cabinet back and now planning to return the table ... debating whether to give them another chance or just cancel the order.
     
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