I prefer the original Topaz Adjust presets

I've noticed a change with all the presets ... I asked another designer/photograher and they noticed them too. I can take an original camera raw photo, run it through a preset (i.e., Simplify) and the results do not look like those before. It is the same with psychadelic, detailed, vibrance and dramatic ... my photos do not come out with same results ... it is sad, but I can live with it ... I still LOVE Topaz! Thanks so much!

Well, the simplify is just awful now ... before the upgrade, the results I was getting with skin tones was incredible and I was getting asked how, so I was referring everyone to Topaz Labs ... now ... not at all ... it seems to increase faults (such as dark circles under eyes, etc.). It really is no big deal, I'll mess with the settings until I get it, then I'll save my changes. My original reason for asking was just to see if you had them so I could use them without having to spend the time finding what they are. I will say though, I am getting incredible results on some shots (see image on 4-wheeler). Thanks!

I've attached a before/after upgrade pic of a simplify preset.

Hey, that is not a download ... html code looks like ... how do I proceed?

Thanks so much!

OK, one last thing ... I downloaded it and saved it over the AdjustPreset1.tpp, when I apply the simplify filter I get the exact same results ... (I also have an AdjustPreset2.tpp out there could this be why?)

Thanks so much!

I am NOT happy with the new "improved" presets. I just downloaded the changes Eric Yang Provided us. Here is what the "simplify" pre-set now does to my images. YIKES! How can I get this FIXED?

You can delete my prior post. I discovered the problem. I downloaded the revised presets to Topaz Adjust version 2.3. Please tell everyone they must upgrade to version 2.4 before using your adjusted set of pre-sets.

I think I am going to like version 2.4!

I'm not sure i want to run this update. I Like the way 2.3 functions now. I Like that it preserves detail and that some of the presets make the photo look like a painting. What should I do?

NO! The new version (2.4) is a big step back from 2.3. I have several examples of images converted in 2.3 that look much worse in 2.4.

With tweaking we can make the new adjustments look like the old? Did you ever hear of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it?"

I'm going to remove this version & reinstall 2.3 & hope it works. It was a great buy originally but I wouldn't have touched this version, sorry. Next time maybe try a beta version.

I just tried to load in PS7 and it won't evenload in. i get an error message: "Can't load in tliadjust23.dll

The new version is horrible. Don't load it. You've just ruined the best software i've found in a while. Please help me to get the old version back. Very disappointed!!!!!!!!!

honestley eric, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but if you can't see the difference................ you had a very unique piece of software, and i think you were misdirected on what improvements the users were looking for. If you were looking for speed, let the user determine how much noise reduction processing they are willing to put up with, or release the noise reduction software before releasing a new version of "adjust" so we can see how the work together. This new version is just not the same program.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk either, but it just keeps getting worse! I would not buy this software now ... I loved the original and found myself using it on everything ... it truly was an incredible and unique plug in ... now, I think I'll just spend the money for lucisart.

Adjust was not broke ... slow, yes, not broke ... and you didn't fix it ... you have created a completely new product.

And, if you cannot see the differences now ... i will gladly send you all my before/after comparisions.

If you are asking me to send you before/after pics, you must be kidding. I can't afford the time. I took you at your word that the new version was an improvement. You were way wrong. I recommended this product to a lot of people. I was wrong. Next time, as I suggested before, run a beta test, like a professional company.

After loading the V24 of adjust, I can't get it work in PS7, i keep getting an error message: Can not load iladjust23.dll . So I removed the topaz program completely and reloaded it. Guess what It does it time and again. Anyway I can just get the old version back until you perfect this one?? can help me figure it out. But I've deleted the program and reloaded it several times now

Well, I'm pulling for you Eric. Ver 2.3 is a great tool and I use it constantly. I downloaded version 2.4 but have not tired it yet.

Rob, have you tried using "System Restore" (assuming you're on a Windows machine)
Sometimes when a program gets completely messed up it's the only way to get it back to a working state. Just be sure to back up any files that were created after the restore date you pick.

i was able to reload 2.3 be reomoving 2.4 and finding the original setup file 2.3 and reinstalling it.

How about making the 2.3 release a separate plug-in?

Something like "Topaz Adjust Classic",

allowing users to have both installed at the same time?

I'd second that suggestion mg. It would be nice to have them side by side to see the differences.
And I don't really have time to install and potentially un-install things right now.

Marjorie, I'd be interested in seeing those before and after shots.

Albert, awesome idea on the side by side ... GlassHouse ... tell me how to get you the before and after and I'll send ... or I can put on backside of my website, which might be the easiest ... i'll work on getting those out there by tonight. www.stallard-images.com/topaz ... check there later tonight for the pics.

Albert I think that is a great compromise for now. I would like to compare the two and have not updated because of the feedback here. I also have too much invested with photographs for customers and friends who like what I have done with 2.3. I would hate to lose all that, please let us know when and how we can use 2.3 and 2.4 side by side. I have have faith in you guys because you listen to feedback so well. Thanks for a great product.

Albert & Eric - I uninstalled 2.4 & was able to reinstall 2.3 successfully. I really like your products & have been using Topaz Vivacity almost constantly since it came out.

I don't see much use of sending before & after pics for this problem, though, since you actually replaced some of the presets with others which is at the core of the dilemma. As I understand it, you tweaked some of the underlying adjustments code which affected how the presets worked. Suddenly those of us relying on the presets had the rug pulled out from under. Generally one wants to consult with ones' existing user base before changing the way things work (imagine if you were running a network of ATMs & made comparable changes). That's why beta versions are so important. Just ask Adobe. ;)

This is what I like about this company.

Active, responsive and open to the community!

Agreed mg
I tell ya, I'd normally be open to changes made by these guys but Ive had such great results from the ver 2.3 noise filter that I'm reluctant to give it up.
This shot for example; taken with a Sony DSC-H1 point and shoot camera and a crop of the original, had serious noise problems even after I used Neat Image, Define2 and CS3's noise reduction filters.
The Topaz Adjust 2.3 is a vast improvement over all of these.

(You can compare the results here).
Moon and Venus (Topaz noise reduction)

GlassHouse,

Wov! I was also stunned that a $39 plugin had an extra feature that rivalled dedicated noise remowal plugins, but that clearly shows how it excells!

Can't wait for the nr plugin!

And as I understood, it will be implemented into Adjust when it is ready.

Great things to come, I hope everybody has some patience as 2 emplyees are active and listening.

Lets keep in mind what kind of value we already have!

Hey, here are the pics ... hope this helps ... I will be adding more pics as I have time tonight, so check back later ... I'm hoping to get an example of each preset.

To make me happy, I would be excited to just get the original back with old presets ... the results I was getting was worth the wait.

Here is the link ... http://www.stallard-images.com/topaz....

And thanks so much for listening to all of us and trying to help! :)

Marjorie, thanks for taking the time to make the point.
Appreciated.

I agree 100% 2.4 runs faster but has poorer effects than 2.3 with that said
will be be able to run 2.3 and 2.4 side by side on CS3 when you put the
link on for 2.3 Monday ?? if not anyway we can rename the 2.3 plug in so we can ?? Just another item on 2.3 I could run Topaz Adjust with Photo-Brush
only the photo size had to be 600x451 then came 2.4 and I was unable to run i with Photo-Brush Vivacity runs great with Photo-Brush how bout revamping the "adjust" engine....Thanks

I merge old and new preferences and so far they work fine. Maybe the old one interfere with the new noise engeen, not sure about that.

Hi Eric
I was able, through System Restore, to go back a few days and then my V2.3 worked. So I "uninstalled it". Downloaded 2.4 and and still got the error message in PS7 that it couldn't load iltadjust2.3 dll.

I wondering if 2.4 works with ps7, if you had v 2.3 before. Personally I'd like to try it, but........ Can't. Any ideas?
Thanks
Rob

Pleas put up the 2.3 version on Monday so I can download it. I am so upset at the 2.4 ver. I tried replacing the .tpp file and that was no help at all with 2.4. I do love the new picture window in 2.4. It allows me to see the whole picture and is really fast but I would give all that up to have Topaz Adjust work the way it used to.

I uninstalled 2.4 and re-installed 2.3 agree 100% the effects in 2.3 ( presents) at least are much better that 2.4, Yes 2.3 is slow slow slow, also
A favorite program Photo Brush can use Adjust IF the JPG is set for 600x451
in 2.,3
Vivacity can be used with about any program that used Photo Shop Plug ins, would hope some day Adjust can do the same ..... agree and thanks to Marjorie for pushing the issue, there are alot of us "silent" lookers that hope adjust can be fixed

Guess I am alone but I love the new presets..love the photo pop!!!!

looking froward to 2.5

Im looking forward to 2.5 also, on my wish list is that 2.5 will run with
the same programs that Vivacity runs with namely Photo-Brush
and no 2.4 didnt run with many of the programs that can use Adobe
8BF files either ...... Please

I've been using Topaz 2.4 for a week or two. Yes, I found the presets a lot more subtle than 2.3. But I also found the difference between most of them has become subtle too. Maybe a bit too subtle. I was using the presets in 2.3 as a starting point and it was easy to get into the right ballbark and then go from there, using blending modes and opacity changes to tone them down and if that wasn't enough going into the additional tabs. Now, since there is not much difference between them, it means I have a lot more work to do. I appreciate the increase in speed, but I would love to have version 2.3 to run side by side with 2.4. That way I could use 2.3 on my serious work and 2.4 on my lightweight stuff.

I've been using Adjust (demo) for only a short time, but after seeing this thread I downloaded 2.3 for a try. The presets are indeed drastically different, and if I had to pick one better than the other, I'd say 2.3 presets get much closer to my desired looks.

But the speed of the new 2.4 version makes it SO much easier to manually tweak the individual settings (which I would need to do in either version) that it's no contest for me. I will be buying 2.4 :)

Vibrance in 2.3


Vibrance in 2.4


Manual in 2.4

How is 2.5 coming along ?? any possible time frame we could be looking at ?

Hi Eric, i've just installed adjust2.5 and it seems i can't run it simultaneously with v2.3 (as you writen it would earlier)

the two versions are installed but i only see one in photoshop and its the v2.5

is there a solution ?

Thank you :o)

Martin

Hi again Eric,

While using adjust2.5, i have noticed a difference in the preview vs the final image with 'photo_pop' and using noise supression with Denoise checked on. While the preview show me no more grain at 1,404 , the resulting image is still full of it. here's the original image to try it.

Thank you and keep up the great work :o)
Martin

Don't understand...
new presets are awful.... :(

here the RESULT of "enhance contrast" preset :
?????????????????? :-O

v2.5 Am I missing something, I can't find a Registration button under the About tab.

Hi again !
concerning my previous msg, i've just found that it's the previewing window that gives a false rendition when not at 100% of actual size. When smaller, it evens out the grain and artefacts more than what you get when clicking OK.

Its kind of sad cause the results in the preview window is awsome (everything is smoothed out without loosing important details, but the real result after clicking OK is full of artefact.

here is the original picture full size

Hi Albert, How are things coming for the new V2.3 installer (side by side with V2.5)?
thank you.

Are we able to use Adjust 2.3 with 2.5 yet without any problems?

I get a 403 forbidden error. looks like some permissions settings.

Small problem, presets seemed to come from the 2.5 version.. I renamed the 2.3 presets to Adjustpreset4.tpp and Adjustpreset5.tpp and renamed each preset in these with 2.3_ at the start, then copied them to the topaz ajust 2.5 preset folder.

I think the old registry key from the old 2.3 is somewhere.. so its picking up the wrong presets as i had 2.3 installed.

I can live with the fix above and might have a look see if i can find the offending registry entry :)

e,g,

<2.3_Mild_Details AUTHOR="User" Mod="1" Disp="1" SAEQ="0" SB="1.00" LK="1.00" DT="0.11" DS="19.26" LSD="0.10" LAEQS="1.00" DG="1.14" SAEQS="1.00" NM="1.00" LAEQ="0" HUE="0" DK="1.52" LB="0" NC="1.50" DSP="1.00" LHT="0.10" NT="0" SK="1.00" DESCRIPTION="Naturally enhance the details in your images." NJ="0" NK="0.95"/>

Installed the updated 2.3 installed great however there are NO Presets when you open the file up in PS.....

Eric,

By far this is my favorite filter. I too love the 2.3 classic set of presets. I have just upgraded to the 2.5 so can I install the 2.3 along side so I can use both of these or do I need to do something different?

I installed today the plugin (great ...) but the presets don't work (I see them but when I click one ... no change )
(Windows Vista and Photoshop CS2)

Bruno

Eric, it's IBJC (Jen) again and I have successfully installed 2.3 but I can NOT get the same results that I previously got. Maybe I had a version earlier than the 2.3. I am not gettting the smooth fluid looks that I so loved in the earlier presets. Is there a listing of settings that you may have that can help me get a smooth look vs something that has so much noise.....even though I removed a lot of it. I just can't get anything to look as good. Here are pictures to show you....I love the first one and can't get anything to match now.... The first one is what I'm looking for


This second one is a repeated attempt of getting the same look as the first and I don't care for this one at all... Any thoughts?

Eric can you help me with the above info?

I can't use the presets found by default. They're listed but don't produce any effect when I double click on them. Even if I click on ok the effects don't work! Where is my mistake???