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HUUUUUGE clone file!
Ok, before when making clones, the file size would come out to around 40 MB. But now its 400+ MB!!! Why is it that when you go to clone, it copies all the useless and pointless backgrounds, pictures, templates, etc for the Channel that doesn't even use that stuff!? Cloning a Channel should ONLY clone what's being used D=
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Inappropriate?Before? The clone tool is new to 5.2.
Anyway, this is exactly what it is supposed to do. The clone tool is designed to make a complete backup of the channel: channel settings, all zones on the channel, all bulletins on those zones and also all media associated with those zones. When the clone file is restored on that system or another Carousel system, the data needs to be in the file so that even the unused backgrounds can be used on the new channel in the future.
If you want to avoid backing up backgrounds, sounds, videos or pictures that you never intent to use, I would suggest deleting them from your Carousel system. -
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Inappropriate?Before as in, maybe a week ago before I got this 400+MB clone file, they came out as around 40 MB. I might be getting these HUGE clone files because I updated or something since I just updated like a day ago.
So if the Clone tool copies things that aren't even used, so that the channel can use those things in the future, then I highly suggest that you guys rename this tool to Backup instead of Clone seeing how it's just backing up more then what you might expect. Also, you guys should add a little *note to the "Can I copy or clone a Channel?" topic which should say:
Not only will the clone tool copy all the pictures, backgrounds, templates, etc that you're using, it will also copy all the pictures, backgrounds, templates, etc that you ARE NOT using. Which means if you have no plans on changing those things in the future, then you're just getting useless data in the exported clone file which means longer importing time.
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Inappropriate?We decided to use the term "Clone" because that's what the tool is actually doing. Whether importing or exporting, it is making an exact duplicate of the channel.
By design, it is very thorough, so it grabs everything associated with the channel - including pictures and videos that live in the media section of a zone, as well as stale and saved bulletins. So, I would say if you don't use that media, then delete it.
What dictates all of the backgrounds, pictures, and templates as "not being used"? How does the system know you're not using them? I wonder if you are referring to media in other zones that aren't linked to the channel. In that case, we would have to investigate why it's copying media that doesn't belong to a channel.
What is your intent with the Clone tool? Are you looking to make backups on a regular basis? Are you archiving? Duplicating?
The Clone tool was created with two main purposes in mind. You found one of them. The other is coming...
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Inappropriate?Well here's the scoop:
I have a main solo-220 in my office which I use to build ads (in the center of my channel with side panels on the left and right of the ads, as well as a banner on the top and a blank bottom to create a frame around the center) then export a clone file to 4 other solo-220's in my mall. So we make a clone file every 1-2 weeks, depending on how things go then import those clone files into the 4 solo-220's at the mall.
As for the media, I DID delete everything that's not going to be used in the media section for all of my zones. This was, like, the first thing I did because the first couple of clone files that came out when I started this, came out around 40 MB. I saw, while it was cloning, that it was still copying the same amount of templates, etc even though I deleted all of them (except the ones I made myself) in the media section.
Hope this provided more insight on my current situation.
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Inappropriate?When the Clone tool exports, it shows you the status. When it says "exporting media...pictures x/230", its really just scanning 230 pictures and copying only the ones that are linked to the channel. This is true for templates, videos, backgrounds, and any other media. So the more media you have in the system, whether its linked to the channel or not, the longer the process will take to export.
Are you still getting 400+MB Clone files? Honestly, that doesn't sound that big, especially if you're using videos. I'm guessing that when you were originally exporting and getting 40MB files - it was incomplete - or didn't have video files and now it does?
So, it sounds like you're using Clone for deployment of your bulletins to multiple locations. If the properties of the channel are not being changed each time, I would suggest exporting the bulletins as a package - and import them into the other systems. This can all be done through the web UI.
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Inappropriate?We can look at that in a future release, it shouldn't be copying things you've deleted.1 Comment
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As Scott mentioned, we've created a bug for this: bugid 3586. We'll do some research and figure out what is going on. -
Inappropriate?Here's what I'm using.
4 background images
2 templates
2 pictures
40 advertising pictures (or possibly just a powerpoint, we keep changing)
no videos or anything. We're really looking at what is the fastest way of doing something and don't want to spend 20-30 minutes importing a clone file.
If I create a bulletin package of my center zone (which contains 40 pictures, each has it's own bulletin so 40 bulletins) will it also copy the schedule dates, transition choice, and timing?
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