USPS calls customers liars if they report a lost package
I know no one from USPS will probably see this (one could only wish), but I wanted to document what I went through so that it may help others who have had this issue arise.
I ordered a package of 3 books from Amazon to my PO Box. The address was entered correctly with my name on it. Knowing that it was impossible for these 3 books (all in one package) to fit in my tiny PO Box, I waited to receive a note telling me to come to the counter to pick up my package. Days passed after the package (with a USPS tracking number) was documented as "delivered", but still nothing.
I finally went up to the counter to ask if it had arrived, at which point they gave me a different package that I had received days ago but they said they couldn't find my Amazon package. Thinking they must just have horrible processes at the post office since they didn't even give me a note about my other package, I told them I never received the Amazon package.
The employees at the post office told me that someone else must've picked it up then. I explained that this wasn't possible since I was the only person with access to my PO Box. They then asked if I had a duplicate key to my PO Box, to which I said no. I then also explained that it would be impossible since I know for a fact that the dimensions of the Amazon box wouldn't fit in my PO Box, which would mean someone would have to come to the counter and sign for it. I asked them if they had a signature on file for someone who mysteriously may have taken it instead of me - they didn't. I said, well, I never received it - there was no note, it was impossible to fit in my PO Box (so someone would have to sign for receiving it at the counter), and no one signed for it. They told me that I must've received it since the USPS tracking stated that it was delivered to my PO Box, despite me insisting to them that I didn't.
I told the employees I wanted to file a claim, and they said to me that I can only file claims on lost packages and even then, they would offer no refund since the package wasn't insured. I said to them that the package sounds like it was delivered to the post office and then someone either lost or stole it there, so I wanted to file a claim against them. They unhappily gave me some papers to fill out that had nothing to do with filing a complaint of this type and said they could turn it in but it wouldn't go anywhere. I walked out while hearing some of them continue to look for my package in the back. I called USPS customer service but they were all entirely unhelpful and would only call the post office who would then tell the customer service that I was lying - that they delivered the package. I called customer service 3 times - each with the same result of them not understanding the concept of my package getting lost between the post office and my PO Box.
This was very frustrating since it felt like I just spent $60 to have someone possibly steal my package at the post office and have NO way of accounting for it (this seems like a SERIOUS loophole in their tracking process). I found out that others have had this exact situation happen to them before and that Amazon actually was the one to resolve it. I called Amazon tonight and told them that I never received the package even though it shows it as delivered - without telling me I must be lying because of xyz like the post office did, they ordered me a replacement to be shipped right away!
This is *phenomenal* customer service from Amazon, but the entire situation feels so wrong. Amazon shouldn't have to be the one cleaning up after USPS's incapable tracking processes, or worse yet, their customer service who *should* be the ones remedying the situation.
The whole reason I got a PO Box at the post office in the first place is because I was worried my mail might be stolen from my home - needless to say, I now trust packages to be sent to my house more than my PO Box.
I ordered a package of 3 books from Amazon to my PO Box. The address was entered correctly with my name on it. Knowing that it was impossible for these 3 books (all in one package) to fit in my tiny PO Box, I waited to receive a note telling me to come to the counter to pick up my package. Days passed after the package (with a USPS tracking number) was documented as "delivered", but still nothing.
I finally went up to the counter to ask if it had arrived, at which point they gave me a different package that I had received days ago but they said they couldn't find my Amazon package. Thinking they must just have horrible processes at the post office since they didn't even give me a note about my other package, I told them I never received the Amazon package.
The employees at the post office told me that someone else must've picked it up then. I explained that this wasn't possible since I was the only person with access to my PO Box. They then asked if I had a duplicate key to my PO Box, to which I said no. I then also explained that it would be impossible since I know for a fact that the dimensions of the Amazon box wouldn't fit in my PO Box, which would mean someone would have to come to the counter and sign for it. I asked them if they had a signature on file for someone who mysteriously may have taken it instead of me - they didn't. I said, well, I never received it - there was no note, it was impossible to fit in my PO Box (so someone would have to sign for receiving it at the counter), and no one signed for it. They told me that I must've received it since the USPS tracking stated that it was delivered to my PO Box, despite me insisting to them that I didn't.
I told the employees I wanted to file a claim, and they said to me that I can only file claims on lost packages and even then, they would offer no refund since the package wasn't insured. I said to them that the package sounds like it was delivered to the post office and then someone either lost or stole it there, so I wanted to file a claim against them. They unhappily gave me some papers to fill out that had nothing to do with filing a complaint of this type and said they could turn it in but it wouldn't go anywhere. I walked out while hearing some of them continue to look for my package in the back. I called USPS customer service but they were all entirely unhelpful and would only call the post office who would then tell the customer service that I was lying - that they delivered the package. I called customer service 3 times - each with the same result of them not understanding the concept of my package getting lost between the post office and my PO Box.
This was very frustrating since it felt like I just spent $60 to have someone possibly steal my package at the post office and have NO way of accounting for it (this seems like a SERIOUS loophole in their tracking process). I found out that others have had this exact situation happen to them before and that Amazon actually was the one to resolve it. I called Amazon tonight and told them that I never received the package even though it shows it as delivered - without telling me I must be lying because of xyz like the post office did, they ordered me a replacement to be shipped right away!
This is *phenomenal* customer service from Amazon, but the entire situation feels so wrong. Amazon shouldn't have to be the one cleaning up after USPS's incapable tracking processes, or worse yet, their customer service who *should* be the ones remedying the situation.
The whole reason I got a PO Box at the post office in the first place is because I was worried my mail might be stolen from my home - needless to say, I now trust packages to be sent to my house more than my PO Box.
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Inappropriate?I had a VERY similar problem. The package (from Amazon) was marked "delivered" and timestamped with a time that I know I was at home. Talked to the regular USPS mail carrier, and he hadn't seen it. I believe him, so Ariel's right about where the loophole probably is -- at the post office. Marked delivered before it ever goes out for home delivery. Atrocious. Amazon also replaced my order -- thanks, guys -- after asking me to check my local post office to make sure it hadn't turned up there. I never received a delivery slip or my original package. Love my neighborhood mailman, but really dissatisfied with USPS.
I’m going to buy from Amazon a lot more often now, and start using FedEx.
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Inappropriate?Actually, complaining about missing items usually results in a Federal conviction against a postal employee who is stealing mail. The FBI mails an expensive oversize item with an RFID tag hidden in it and simply waits for it to "disappear" and pass a RFID reader thus ID'ing the bandit. Believe it or not, there are quite a few ex-postal workers in Leavenworth. Unfortunately, this sort of feedback on your case never reaches you directly and is usually classified.
I’m sympathetic
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Inappropriate?"This is *phenomenal* customer service from Amazon"
Actually this is quite common service. You should never have to deal with UPS, FedEx or USPS on your own. Always call the company from which your package was shipped. They have a much better relationship with the carrier than you do, and if it's UPS or FedEx the company most likely has an account rep and will credit the company monthly on lost packages. -
Inappropriate?I ordered some shoes from REI (rei.com), which were shipped to our PO Box. Postal employees at our PO insisted there was no package, but tracking showed it as delivered. I called REI to see what to do and they promised to ship out replacements via UPS right away. However, after that conversation, someone at REI decided to call our post office directly. Whatever Words of Power REI used, somehow the package magically reappeared...
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Inappropriate?Amazon and other companies have a lot more pull to get USPS and other delivery companies to take action and fast because they know each complaint adds up and if too many then that company will switch to another carrier. USPS has been getting worse for a few reasons, one is that they have been overwhelmed with online purchasing such as Ebay driving up amount of packages they handle. Another is that they have been doing more and more subcontracting services out to private companies whose employees do not always meet USPS standards which is one reason they are cheaper than USPS paying their own people. Another reason is that USPS does not get the "cream of the crop" from hiring pool nowdays because of many factors including wages/benefits not as desirable as in past. We as individuals have to face fact that unless we can apply some sort of leverage to get higher up to crack the whip then we are pretty much as effective as a fly buzzing around. Just a little annoying but thats all. Always best to use Amazons customer service or whomevers to apply pressure or as I have been able to do effectively is lie lie lie through your teeth claiming you use them all the time for the business you own and with stuff like this happening UPS & FedEx are starting to look mighty tempting even though this was a "personal" package lost. You do have to get that message past the front counter and to someone who actually has power though. Either email or phone call. My post office here is entirely subcontracted out so anything I mail of importance I drive to different office. Here they deliver items to the "from" address (even plain old letters), leave mail on ground if they can't quite reach mailbox out their window that day, deliver as late as 8 p.m., transfer mail from car to car in middle of nowhere while I have personally witnessed mail blowing away into the fields, forget or get to lazy to empty the blue postal boxes until they are overflowing onto the parking lot, and of course often fail to notify people their package is being held in limbo on their shelf in back. And this is our tax money well spent?!?!?!
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Inappropriate?I could tell worse horror stories than that. I work for post office for all my adult live and a lot of the people that work in my office now are not about customer service.
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?I'M PISSED OFF BECAUSE I'M GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROBLEM RIGHT NOW! SOMEONE AT THE POST OFFICE STOLE MY PACKAGE! THE POST OFFICE IS LOCATED ON 138TH STREET ON 5TH AVENUE. IT'S CALLED 'LINCOLNTON POST OFFICE.' A CERTAIN POSTMAN DELIVERS MAIL TO THE WRONG PEOPLE. HE DRINKS ON THE JOB...IT'S CRAZY. I HAVE A LOT OF DIRT ON THESE PEOPLE. THEY BETTER FIND MY PACKAGE OR REIMBURSE ME.
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Inappropriate?I have had numerous high dollar collectible items that I've sold on ebay magically "disappear" at usps and the tracking #'s never say delivered, they just say "accepted"...
Nevertheless, this lead to paypal disputes, claims, and general confusion.
Something is awry here...
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Inappropriate?I am still waiting for the USPS to "deliver" a return package worth $80. I put a delivery confirmation on all my packages. Like brandon, my tracking status for my package still says "accepted." I call USPS constantly & they don't do anything. I lost another return package worth around $500 about a year ago.
I have to send another package worth the same amount and am putting insurance on it this time... I can only hope this package will actually be delivered.
USPS has terrible customer service, and at certain post offices too.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?One thing you didn't mention is whether your PO has parcel lockers in the box lobby. If it does, there's a possibility your parcel was put in the parcel locker and the key was put in the wrong PO Box, and whoever got it kept the package. The clerks responsible for putting mail in the PO Boxes and parcel locker should keep a record of what lockers are used each day, and what box the key for the locker was placed into. My guess is they don't, and don't care. I retired from the PO last year, and my old office had one of those "don't care" clerks in the box section. He was a veteran, and as such is practically untouchable unless he is caught stealing mail or physically assaults someone. Next time you go in, talk to the Postmaster or the window supervisor, not one of the clerks.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?OK, SO....GUESS WHAT?!!! I JUST WENT TO CHECK MY MAIL FROM YESTERDAY AND THE POSTAL CARRIER LEFT SOMEONE'S PACKAGE (WHO DOES'NT EVEN LIVE IN MY BUILDING) OUT IN THE OPEN- BY THE MAILBOX! I CALLED THE POST OFFICE (LINCOLNTON P.O., OF COURSE) AND SPOKE TO MS. HARDGROVE AND TOLD HER ABOUT THIS. SHE'S A SUPERVISOR. SHE THEN SAYS 'OH, THIS IS NOT A PERFECT WORLD, ETC... MOST LIKELY, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PACKAGE THAT I NEVER RECEIVED!!! NO ONE IS REIMBURSING ME FOR THE MISTAKES OF THESE INCOMPETENT EMPLOYEES! SO, I HAVE THIS PERSON'S PKG. I TOLD THE SUPV., MS. HARDGROVE. OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE PERSON WHO IT BELONGS TO. I WANT SOMEONE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS! I WANT TO BE REIMBURSED FOR MY LOST PKG ALSO!!! FEEDBACK PLEASE. I'M READY TO GO TO THE NEAREST PRECINCT! BASTARDS! HOW DOES IT MAKE ME FEEL? I DON'T SEE THE EMOTICON FOR THAT!
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Inappropriate?Today September10 2008, I found out that a pakage from an ebay seller that was sent to me and I was tracking has disapear from the post office. They told me that someone went and pick it up on monday September 8 2008. They dont ask for ID , they dont have cameras. They dont know nothing. I ask the postmaster why dont they ask for ID and he told me that they only do that if a confirmation is requested. Even today 1 day before the 9/11 attacks? This is wrong, our post service is corrupt. Something is not right! This is not fare. What can we do?
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?hello USA... kissses from France.
my name is Alexis, a friend of mine send me a package on july the 14 in france and, unfortunately, the package went back to NY the 29 (july).
I know that it arrived in US at 6:45pm by the plane F1000 - dispatch 116 - bag #2 (only 2 package in this bag...)... And USPS doesn't kno where is the package...
How long must I have to wait.... 2 month..
Does anyone has alreayd have this problem ?
thanks to mail me back at alexis.bessout @ free.fr
Alexis
I’m anxious
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Inappropriate?grrr, i'm hungry, something similar happen to me last year, i bought 2 tickets at eBay a total of about $100, and the USPS said they delivered at my address, but i never ever!!!! received it!!!!!, and now i bougth something really cheap but i hate that USPS says they delivered and that never happens, i didn't report the tickets i bough last year, but i'll report this item now, this make me really mad, i have ordered more item on eBay, and they have arrived fine, now i'n waiting for more items but not sure everything is OK, well i'll see this week what's gonna happen, hope not the same thing that last year ¬¬.
I’m frustrated
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