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Monthly Bandwidth Limit and Statistics; feature request
Please include some sort of Monthly bandwidth cap as alot of people have monthly limits imposed by the Internet Service Provider. It would be nice to have some sort of summary that would show the total bandwidth that was used so far (up, down, and combined) and have it customizeable so that we can specify on which day of the month it should reset. In order to discourage users entering artificially low limits, you could change the storage formula to:
Available Storage = (Online %) * Minimum(Bandwidth Cap, Traded Storage)
Common Limits:
-25 GB per month
-60 GB per month
-95 GB per month
-Unlimited
Available Storage = (Online %) * Minimum(Bandwidth Cap, Traded Storage)
Common Limits:
-25 GB per month
-60 GB per month
-95 GB per month
-Unlimited
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Inappropriate?Great idea! Maybe a text field where you can enter the total allowed traffic per month. -
Inappropriate?I agree that would be a nice feature, especially since I know Time Warner in Texas is testing out a monthly cap and Australia has some harsh bandwidth limits.
Since it is sort of along the same lines I figured I would post my thread here and maybe you could add you're suggestion to my thread as well.
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Inappropriate?common limits examples are utter crap. i dont know any sort of provider that enforces those numbers.
so make it adjustable for any wuala user, that would help most, if at all.
second: following some bandwidth and transfer limits just plays into the hands of these crappy providers. it maybe be inviting to follow bandwidth rules at first, but this only helps these fuckedup providers to stay in the market.
people should swap providers if possible. if everbody agrees to these crazy rules, no matter if its bandwidth or who know what will be next (hail to network neutrality discussion), then these providers will continue to fuck their customers for good.
shut down those providers instead of trying to adjust to crap that you actually dont agree with at all in the first place.
shutting down providers will come with the loss of customerbase and boycotting these retarded companies.
have fun.
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This is one of the best points
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While I'll agree to your post in some respects a lot of times people don't really have affordable options and are trying to make due with what the have.
Bell Canada's cap - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/...
Time Warner - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/...
Japan Telco - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/... (ok ok its 30GB a day lol)
Comcast - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/...
A lot of these caps are being strongly considered. -
Inappropriate?Monthly caps are really important because alot of users will be considering other backup alternatives if they'll be charged usage charges every month. More and more ISPs are considering switching to a usage model so this will only get more important.
As a simple solution, the system could regard you as being offline when you've reached your monthly limit (or 95% of the limit). -
Inappropriate?simple workaround could be calculating the maximum speed that would be allowed for constant trafficflow which generates a certain amount if traffic in total.
that would certainly limit your upload/download caps but with calculating this limit you will be on the safe side.
nevertheless, its not good to rely on providers like these and to support their business model in general.
your 25gig caps as an example would be 9kbytes/sec of total bandwidth consumption for less than 25gigs, with a month of 31days, equaling something more than 24gigs in total.
those 9kbytes/sec you will have to allocate to both up and downstream speedlimits in total, in certain ranges that make sense ofcourse.
so maybe like 5kbytes/sec down and 4kbytes/sec upspeed.
this will result in crappy behaviour of wuala ofcourse, but will always comply with your providers bandwidth cap limits.
ewwwwwwwww........ :D
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This is one of the best points
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This idea would but it's a little pessimistic because it's assuming a worst case scenario where I would be downloading and uploading non stop. As an improvement with your example of 9KB/sec, the Wuala client could constantly alocate bandwidth based on what you're doing at each instant in time so if you're only uploading at this given moment then it would be uploading at 9 KB/sec or similar if you're only downloading at this instant then your download speed could be 9 KB/sec.
As a further improvement, the client would keep track of which day of the month your limit resets and it would calculate the maximum speed allowable based on how many days are remaining in the month and based on how much bandwidth you've used so far.
Using my second improvement with your example, at the beggining of the month, your speeds would be limited to 9 KB/sec, then half way through the month if you haven't used any bandwidth then your speeds would be limited to 18KB/sec. The general formula would be:
Allowable Speed #1 = (MaxBandwidth - BandwidthUsedSoFar) / (#OfSecondsLeftInMonth)
As a further improvement, the Wuala client could keep some statistical data for the last X months that it would use to guess how much bandwidth you would use this month. The client would then set the maximum speed based on your estimated usage so if your estimated usage is actually the full limit (25GB in your example) then the speed formula would simply revert to the above mentioned formula (Allowable Speed #1). The new formula would be:
Allowable Speed #2 = (Allowable Speed #1) / (estimated % of bandwidth limit that will be used)
So as an example if the client estimates that I'll use about 17.5 GB of bandwidth (which is 70% of the 25GB limit) then it would set my initial limit to 13 KB/sec (9 KB/sec divided by 0.7).
To calculate the estimated bandwidth that I'm going to use this month, the client could base this decision in the following way:
50% is based on your past usage for past X months and 50% is based on your usage this month. This way if your usage patterns changes this month then the speed limit would be adjusted accordingly.
As an improvement, instead of using a fixed Weight of 50% for this month, the estimated bandwidth that will be used could be calculated as follows:
Weight = (# of days that have passed since this month's billing day) / 31
Average Usage = the average bandwidth usage per month based on the past X months
Estimated Usage = Average Usage * (1 - Weight) + (Usage Used this month) * Weight
This way if there's only 1 day left in the month then this month's usage will have a Weight of about 97% and your past months of usage will only have a negligible impact on the estimate since there's only 1 day left.
This should be enough suggestions for now but if anyone is interested, I could describe several more improvements.
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Inappropriate?If an ISP has monthly data caps I think that THEY should be responsible for letting you know how much total data you have used. Just like a cell phone company lets you know how many minutes/data/messages you have used so far in a billing cycle.
Since really the total bandwidth is really the only number that matters, not Wuala specifically, I think that this is a better solution.1 Comment Add a comment
This is one of the best points
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Your recomendation doesn't solve the problem. Lets assume that my ISP pops up a message telling me that I've reached my limit, what am I supposed to do now? Am I supposed to unplug my internet connection?
If I close the Wuala client then my files won't be maintained anymore and so the reliability will be jepordized.
If I have a 95 GB bandwidth limit, it would be nice for me to say "Wuala can use up to 80 GB per month" so this way atleast I have control over how much bandwidth will be used. -
Inappropriate?Now that i'm trading more data, I'm seeing quite a bit of bandwidth being used for maintenance.
This is starting to have me more concerned so I hope that a solution is in the works.
Most ISPs in Canada now have bandwidth limits so this will be a big concern for alot of users.
To Wuala team:
I have an elegant solution that would allow for very high upload and download speeds so it would just need to be implemented. I could provide the details if interested.
I’m concerned
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Inappropriate?I'm not sure if I should create a new topic and classify this as a bug because I have alot of friends that are afraid to use Wuala because you can't control how much bandwidth Wuala uses in a month.
With Rogers being the largest internet provider in Canada, you could easily be charged $25 extra per month for using too much bandwidth (something like $2 for every extra GB).
This is starting to feel more like a design flaw. If this wasn't an issue, I would have a dozen friends sign up with Wuala.
Should I create a new topic classified as a bug?
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Inappropriate?It surely is a bit of a design flaw... here in Europe flatrates are just starting to kick in after years + years of limited bandwidth (only mobile internet is mostly limited)
If you want to trade storage however on a limited line, it could be quite a problem indeed since you cannot know if the fragment you're storing is going to be popular or not. If you only buy storage however and just upload + download, traffic can be easily controlled by yourself.1 Comment Add a comment
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Even if the fragments that are stored on my computer are popular, Wuala could easily change the upload and download speed limits continuously (or hourly) so that it stays within the monthly quota.
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Inappropriate?Hey guys, I'm writing this comment to let everyone know that I'm abusing the system. I'm sorry but this is the only way that I can control how much bandwidth is used because this issue isn't fixed by the Wuala team.
So this is how I'm taking advantage of the system. I upload my files at 120 KBps (kilobytes per second) and once my files are uploaded then I set the maximum upload speed to 3 KBps this way I know that at most I will only upload 7.7 Gigs per month.
I would like to share my upload speeds with the Wuala community but there needs to be a bandwidth scheduler in place so that I can ensure that Wuala stays below a specified monthly bandwidth limit.1 Comment Add a comment
This is one of the best points
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try netlimiter for example...
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Inappropriate?Okay,
Now I gotta say I'm at home in Toronto, ON Canada and here Rogers (cable TV company) offers ineternet service with a 60GB limit/month. And I was like "oh no, i'm not gonna pay for this sh*t" So i looked around and found a very cheap DSL provider called Acanac. They serve customers in whole Canada I think. So who ever is having problems with limits in Canada should check www.acanac.com
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