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Duplicities in AIB & New Gmail

HI Guys
What is the roadmap/discussion for the new AIB in relation to the new features New Gmail offers?
I see a lot of duplicities that the new Gmail offers that AIB used to provide are you cutting these out to make it more streamlined and less cluttered or will it be you can turn it off?
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  • Hello thorrr

    I don't know, is the quick answer. I'll ask and come back to you.

    Lisa Reynolds
    AIB Support
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  • Andy Mitchell (CEO - ActiveInbox Founder) May 01, 2018 13:11
    Hi Dale,

    I love Lisa's answer here. I've always encouraged her to be honest, but this one is rather extreme :-)

    I've just done a similar post on the blog, which I'll lightly edit to suit your question.

    tl;dr New Gmail + Google Tasks *might* suit you if you prefer to manage full blown tasks (but then you'd probably be using Todoist or Trello)... But do remember ActiveInbox's core concept is one of the emails being the tasks. There's no duplication ("here are tasks; here are emails"), meaning you don't have to manage two pieces of data for every action. Hence why we've always done well with managers - amongst many others - for whom their inbox truly is their to do list.

    But anyway, let's concrete! What's Gmail done?
    - Snoozing
    - Relocated Google Tasks to be less hidden away.

    Both are improvements for sure. But snoozing has been around in the email world since at least 2011, and around that time we played with doing it ourselves, but what we saw in the data was that everyone snoozes the same things repeatedly, essentially building up a tidal wave of snoozed emails ahead of themselves. We've always felt it was much more relaxed, and less twitchy, to have a simple 'Today' list, sortable by priority, where you can steadily progress through things.

    As for Google Tasks, it still has the same fundamental 'extra work' issue... you're creating a separate task and then adding your email to it. If you do that, now you've got two things to manage. With ActiveInbox, the concept has always been that the email itself is the task, and it's much more fluid to your workflow.

    Of course, while most emails are too small to belong in a powerful full blown task manager (hence why it's good to manage them as little tasks themselves), sometimes you might want to add emails to your projects in your project manager. We're thinking about that too, and soon will have integrations to help with the most popular tools.

    But where we're hoping to help is more automation. Being smart about what you need a reply too, and making sure you get it. Suggesting project folders so you don't have to think about it. That kind of thing.

    And of course, for many people, being able to summarise long conversations into Sub Tasks & Notes - and replace the subject line - is still very useful for flying through their emails.

    Finally - we've definitely not been lazy this last year :-) We've been working on some brand new ideas, things never seen before in email. It means they're a bit risky for us, as the world may reject them, but I'm confident they've all got *some* promise, and as we release the prototypes we'll home in on whatever that is!

    As ever, I welcome some critique-ing feedback. If you think my head's buried in the sand and I've missed something, I'm always up for that debate!

    Meanwhile, I'm back coding again to brush out the remaining issues so we work flawlessly with New Gmail, so shout if you need me :-)
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  • Andy Mitchell (CEO - ActiveInbox Founder) May 01, 2018 13:16
    Lisa's just reminded me I didn't answer part of your question...

    Which bits of AIB/Gmail would you like to turn off?

    (I'm pretty sure we can make this happen).
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    Hi Andy

    Thank you for your great explanation as always. Let me be clear I was not asking you to switch off or do away with AIB functionality but more concerned certain things blur the water.

    All these task managers are for me another layer or crap I do not need. But I know other users need them or frightened to let go of old ideas.

    Google Tasks I opened and closed and will never open again. Google just love to reinvent the wheel but it is always square just like their chat platform.

    My concern was New Gmail & AIB could turn into Photoshop or Excel 100 ways to do the same thing. I have always liked the clean no clutter look.

    But for a newbie coming to New Google and AIB they may be overwhelmed.

    Due Date, Waiting Until,!Waiting, Snooze etc etc

    Tasks are easy for mei just use AIB Google can keep their logo in the sidebar but I will never use it.

    many users seem to forget AIB is designed to be in Gmail less not longer.

    My thoughts were (i know you do not like the idea in general) to have a full facility to turn on and off what you need in AIB.

    This allows me to use AIB in full but others may like the Google Ecoland and turn off AIB functionality.

    Just my thoughts

    Dale
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