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Where to find Hybrid 3 manual

I went to your support page and it said, "Download the product manual. Make sure to familiarize yourself with the product and any functions or operations described in the manual. Product manuals are available for download from each product's dedicated page on our website."Great! So I go to the Hybrid 3 page. Nothing there, manual-wise. So I check the other products. With the exception of DB33, MiniGrand, and Xpand! 2, they all have manuals. The first two probably don't need one, but Xpand! and Hybrid could surely benefit from one. Any chance the Hybrid manual is around, and just not linked on the site?
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    Not everybody enjoys RTFM these days, but some of us still do!!!

    I'm looking for this also. Hybrid 3 seriously needs a manual. Some YouTube tutorial videos are great to show a few techniques, but this thing is deep enough that it needs to have all of it's features documented.

    Also be nice to see one for Xpand2, but the interface is pretty much self explanatory. Still can't help feeling that I am missing something though ...
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  • My MIDI pedal keeps changing patches on me. So I'd really like to have a reference of which MIDI messages Hybrid responds to, and what they do. I'd like to eventually learn how to switch Hybrid patches, but first I need to block that MIDI to keep the ones I have!

    There is a Hybrid manual on line, but it's old - the original I believe. The URL is very odd, but I had no problems with it. (The dash is really in the URL, its not a line-continuation thingy.). There some differences and obvious missing pieces, but it gets you the basics.

    http://96b0c7ee96e15a318d20-2bf753603...
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    Hey Chris, thanks for the tip!!! But I kept digging and found it :-)

    Take a look in Program Files (x86)\AIR Music Technology\Hybrid ...
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  • Go figure ... i only installed x64 plugin.

    Can't understand why this manual is not linked to from the product webpage or the product itself???
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  • Ha! Same here.. installed the 64 bit VST and assumed that's where everything went. Did I miss the installer telling me about that directory? I don't usually, as my C: drive is smaller and I keep just about everything but the OS off of it.
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  • Don't think you missed anything. I unchecked the 32 bit VST and it still created that folder.

    All of the AIEP 3 product installers appear to do that. Drop the manual in x86, and also creates a Presets folder there. Some add Content or MIDI assignments folders as well. They are not that big, but still ...

    Also missing the Xpand!2 manual? . it's in there tooll!
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  • Hey Chris, regarding your original question about MIDI patch changes with Hybrid 3, I just noticed that you can set many MIDI CC# to just about any button or knob, EXCEPT the Setup Section (top row with patch change GUI). No help there, LOL!

    By right clicking on a control in the Control pages, then using the fly-out sub-menu for Assign CC, you are presented with a number of controller messages.

    So between that and the manual's description of the Morph Group Controller, is all I can see that describes MIDI CC messaging in this synth.

    Perhaps your DAW offers some MIDI filtering tool that can prevent unwanted messages from getting thru. Check you MIDI pedal to see what it is really sending. Maybe take a MIDI controller and use some trial and error to find out what message is causing the switch and filter it. Hybrid is probably dependent on the host DAW for receiving (or not) any MIDI CC's sent out by your gear. It is responding to something, apparently. Probably something to do with Bank Select CC#0 (MSB) and CC#32(LSB).

    Control messages: http://nickfever.com/music/midi-cc-list
    http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eemusic/cntr...
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  • I knew about the assignments - The pedal by default sends out Program Change messages, and it even sends them when you're programming it, I have MidiOx - its a great tool for figuring out what MIDI does. But apparently the PC number that selects one patch from the Trance Leads group, for instance, selects an entirely different one if you're in, say, Soft Leads. So I think you're right - I'll have to experiment and see if Bank Selects change the patch group reliably, and look at what happens from there.

    As far as the random changes, I must have hit an unprogrammed button by accident, and that changed the patch. I've reprogrammed them all now to ultra-low MIDI notes, since that and a few CC#'s are all I need currently to control Ableton. Now if only Hybrid supported Sustenuto... :-)

    Thanks for the help!
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  • Another trick may be to set up multiple instances of the plugin within your DAW, each with the sound you want, but on a different specific MIDI channel. Leave your DAW set to Omni, so it catches control messages on any channel, and just change the MIDI transmit channel on your controller to play the sound you want.

    I used to use external hardware synths and found this bank/patch change stuff a real pain, because of how each manufacturer implemented their own interpretation of the "standard". Haven't thought much about it lately.

    I'm 100% plugins in the box now, and just load them up, and save the project! No more saving patch banks with sysex, LOL!
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  • Details! What do you run, and what do you run it on? I've been 'playing' with Ableton Live for a couple years, but only recently started to try getting serious.

    Currently just using it to add pads and the occasional lead to our worship team. The church has a Yamaha S-90, which sounds great on its own. I take the MIDI out and feed it to Ableton for some nice pads. When I just need a background I drop the S90 volume and let the pads drone, sometimes adding accent notes with the Launchpad on a different patch.

    I had an old notebook that would conk out with more than 2 or 3 voices going, but just upgraded to an i7 Lenovo that I have yet to find the limits on - at least when Win 10 isn't hogging the CPU trying to update in the background. I wish I could afford a Mac, but it would have doubled the price I paid.
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  • Ha! My old music room became a spaghetti monster of cables. Several keyboards and synth modules with audio outs routed to a mixer, whose outputs were routed to an audio interface on the PC. The MIDI outs from external gear routed to a USB midisport interface on the PC. All these devices had to be configured in the DAW. Then the audio out from the PC sent back to the mixer, and the monitor sound then to my amp & speakers. Whew!

    I moved a few years ago and decided to rethink the setup. I learned more about VST plugin virtual instruments, since Cakewalk really started packing them into their bundle, and modern PC's seem to have the CPU and memory chops to be able to handle this without any dropouts or significant latency.

    So now I run everything in one direction into the box, with a minimum of confusion. Starting from a MIDI keyboard controller, I just send the MIDI to the PC direct via USB, make all the noise in the box, then output stereo audio from a pro audio interface (with ASIO drivers) to some powered monitors. Arm any tracks I wish to record. Simple. And anytime I click save on the project it backs up the entire studio for me :-)

    The DAW PC is Windows 10 x64 on a custom desktop Core i3-3.4Ghz with 8GB DDR3-1600, with system and programs on a fast SSD drive and sample libraries on a 2nd HDD. I use an old M-Audio Firewire 410 for the audio interface.

    For DAW software, I use Cakewalk Sonar with all of the bundled effects. My favorite Cakewalk softsynths are Dimension Pro, Rapture, and Z3TA+ 2, I just recently picked up AIR Xpand!2 and the AIEP 3 Select collection, including Hybrid 3, Loom, VacuumPro and Structure. Good stuff, it will take a very long time to get to know all of these new AIR instruments in depth. Thousands of great presets!!! Someday I also hope to add NI Kontakt, Arturia V Collection, and u-he Zebra.

    The only comment I have about DAWs is that they all have their advantages, depending on what you need to do. I think that Ableton Live is probably the one best suited for live performance. I have an older version, but haven't kept up with the current upgrades, since I don't play live. If I was just starting out now I might consider Presonus StudioOne, but since Cakewalk's been good to me so far and I don't have time to learn another DAW, I'm not planning to switch ;-)

    Your new laptop should be fine if you get the background processes under control. Also highly recommend a real USB audio interface if you don't already have, because the low latency (ASIO) sound drivers are the only serious choice and will make a huge difference in sound quality and stability for your audio.

    Best of luck!
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  • Yep.. I'd love a nice USB audio box, but I'm not having much luck there. I tried a little Presonux box on my old laptop, but the drivers quickly maxed out the CPU. So last week I ordered a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6. I hooked it up when it got here and everything seemed fine. Then I got my MIDI setup working through it, and Ugh! something like 300-500 ms latency. I could see the meter bars in Ableton responding immediately as usual, but the sound didn't come out of the 6i6 until a quarter second later or more. I'm waiting for a response to see if there's a fix. From what I understand, there might be, but they dumbed down the software that comes with it, and the needed setting isn't there. (Used to be Mix Control, now its Focusrite Control.) I think I should have waited and spent a little more for the 18i8 - as far as I know, that one still uses Mix Control.

    If I have to return this one, I'd love a recommendation.
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  • Sorry to hear that. So far I've only heard good things about the Focusrite stuff. The 2nd gen 2i2 is supposed to be very decent.

    If my firewire box ever gives out, I've got a short wish list that includes that Focusrite 2i2, The Steinberg UR12 2x2, and the Tascam US-2x2. They all retail for less than $150 USD.

    Potential conflicts: All of the smart guys say to disable the Wi-Fi adapter in Device Manager while using the DAW with USB audio. Reports of conflicts within the system are abundant!

    There is a free latency checker utility that you can run, which will let you know if your PC is suitable for real-time audio. It can also show which drivers are interfering. http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

    Also, just FYI: If you don't already have AIR Xpand!2, there is a $1.00 deal going on until tomorrow (9/6) at Plugin Boutique. Normally retails for $99.00. http://www.pluginboutique.com/product...

    It includes a large selection of choir sounds like oohs and aahs in the Vocal preset folder. You might find this useful for the type of pads you do. I find that the choir voice adds a nice layer to pads. It's also a crazy good deal for a buck, one not to be missed!!!
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  • Make sure that you disable MidiOX port mapping when you are done testing. It killed my MIDI latency when I tried to use virtual instruments with it active ...
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