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Akai states that the MPC X is USB MIDI class compliant well My Yamaha Montage is MIDI class compliant andMPC X is not picking it up.I prefer

Yamaha statement on features
USB Audio/MIDI Connection
Connect MONTAGE to your computer with a single USB cable and capture every nuance of your creativity into your DAW. MONTAGE’s powerful USB driver can send 16 and receive 3 channels of STEREO 24 bit/44.1 kHz digital audio to/from your computer or iOS device (MONTAGE is class compliant, no driver needed!), no other hardware required!

The USB connection also features full MIDI support of 16 channels.

MONTAGE supports the sampling rate up to 192 kHz.
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  • Did you do this, from the manual...

    "NOTE
    Either of the built-in interfaces, the MIDI terminals, or the [USB TO HOST] terminal, can be used for MIDI data transmission/reception; however, they cannot be used at the same time. Select which terminal is to be used for MIDI data transfer by pressing the [UTILITY] button - [Settings] tab - [MIDI I/O] tab."
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  • I am aware of this with both interfaces Yamaha Montage and MPC X USB/MIDI setup.

    If Akai states that the MPC X is MIDI class compliant which the Yamaha Montage is then they should/need to find out why MPC X is not working with the Montage USB interface ,one should be able to use either. Plain and simple.

    As for Audio class compliant this is a feature request I am asking.
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    • I don't think that it is clear that there is a conflict with multi-timbre instruments.

      Are you turning MIDI Local Control to off in the Montage?

      When you turn Local Control off, the MIDI messages from the keyboard go into the MPC over USB or DIN MIDI. They don't go to the internal Montage tone generator.

      Then in the MPC, the incoming MIDI goes into the selected MPC sequencer track You choose which of the 16 MIDI channels is used to send the MIDI out of that MPC sequencer track, and back to the Montage, if that track is set to send it's MIDI output to the Montage. The Montage plays different sounds (multi-timbres) on those 16 different incoming MIDI channels, if the Montage is setup to do so.

      Do you have any normal DIN-MIDI cables, to connect the MIDI output of the Montage to the MPC, and the MIDI output of the MPC to the Montage? If you do, you should try to set it up with normal MIDI cables, to make sure that the problem is actually with the USB-MIDI connection, and not some other setting problem with the Montage or MPC.
    • Local control is off using the Montage Quick setup MIDI Record on DAW when using either USB or DIN MIDI.

      When selecting USB on the Montage it appears nothing going on when I hit the Keys directly after that I switch to DIN MIDI via Yamaha Montage you get a loud thud then Hung notes.

      this happens in stand alone Mode as well as Controller Mode when using the MPC VST within Logic Pro X.

      The Yamaha Montage has MIDI I/O mode Multi and single in both modes it still happens.

      The MIDI Sync on the Yamaha montage is on MIDI meaning slave/ local off is off.

      I will need to check out the Clock out source
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  • There is an issue when I select I/O for USB on My Yamaha Montage you hear nothing but as will note that when I press the MIDI I/O on the Yamaha Montage I get a loud thud (Hung notes) then a group of notes that I prior played.
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  • Also note this is the same issue when using the MPC. vet plugin in Logic Pro x and Yamaha Montage with the MPC X I get this MIDI freeze. The Pads on the MPC X will not respond or trigger but as soon as I hit the Keys on the Montage 6 get this thud noise followed by the note of the Key I touched then the MPC X pads will respond.

    This is because the Yamaha montage is a Multi timbre instrument the issue does not occurs with MIDI keyboard controllers that I tested with Novation Launch Key 49.
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  • From reading about it, it seems like the MPC X does not output USB-MIDI to a USB-MIDI class compliant device, it only can receive USB-MIDI input from a USB-MIDI class compliant controller.

    Can I plug a USB MIDI controller into the USB ports of the MPC X?

    The USB ports on the MPC X have a variety of uses. They can be used to transfer files on and off of the MPC X, as extra storage, and as input for USB MIDI controllers.

    If you have a class compliant MIDI controller (one that does not require drivers), you will be able to plug it directly into an available USB port on the MPC X and control MIDI information in the embedded system software.


    So, you probably can't do what you want to do.

    Since the Montage can't use DIN-MIDI at the same time as USB-MIDI, and the MPC X doesn't output MIDI over USB-MIDI, you will have to connect the Montage to your MPC X using DIN-MIDI.
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  • I do not want to use both the DIN MIDI. I prefer the USB of the Yamaha Montage.

    Why I am making this post is to make aware that Akai personal will report this to the Akai Development team to resolve the issue.

    It should be able to handle any MIDI class compliant be it Multi-Timbre or other wise.

    For now I have to use the DIN Midi until they fix this issue with an Firmware update,
    Which The Din Midi also has MIDI hung notes issues as well.
    • If USB-MIDI output to a USB-MIDI class compliant device is not available on the MPC X, you simply can't use the Montage with it over USB-MIDI.

      They specifically say that it is only for input from USB-MIDI controllers.

      Hopefully they add support in a future update for output over USB-MIDI to a USB-MIDI class compliant device.
    • It is available as I have stated several times Yamaha montage is MIDI class compliant which means it has the basic MIDI control that a MIDI controller has.

      You do not need drivers Dude you can use the Yamaha Montage with a iPad or Tablet so it meets the basic description of a controller.

      I can use the Yamaha montage within Logic Pro X as a controller to move Faders and knobs
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      The other point is regardless of how you are perceiving what I am speaking of Akai needs to update the Firmware to accommodate similar and ALL MIDI compliant devices such as the Yamaha Montage via MPC X USB port.

      There are many Professionals who do live keyboard performances who prefer not to use a computer that may want to implement The MPC X in said performance and may need the MPC X except MIDI class compliant Multi-Timbre keyboards for a specific setup.

      Like I told you BEFORE it was put in as a request if it is not capable at the Moment to handle USB/Multi -timbre that are MIDI class-Compliant.

      So you are stating the obvious of something I already Know.
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  • Hey Seker

    I see you've already discussed some ideas with Simon. Aside from using MIDI DIN, one additional thing I could think of would be to try and set the Montage to send on only one MIDI channel, like MIDI channel 1. It's a capable piece of equipment so I think the option for selecting the channel on which it transfers data is plausible.

    The forum is a good place to discuss topics like this but be sure to submit this as a proper feature request with the MPC 2.0 Software's built-in feedback module. The feedback module is represented by a smiley icon at the lower right side of the software next to the browser icons. This information goes directly to the Akai team!

    You can also use the following links to submit information to the team:

    MPC - Submit a Feature Request

    MPC - Submit a Bug Report

    Thank you for your feedback!
    • Thanks Nick I know what the issue is in stand alone mode vs control mode.

      When in control mode in the Preference setting via MPC Software you can set the port to the Yamaha montage but if you go to the MPC X while in controller mode the is no MIDI option. That understandable since your using the computer also the Montage is plug into the MPC X USB port allowing the my iMac to pick up the Yamaha Montage port.

      The issue is when you go to stand alone Mode under the MPC X Preference Hardware you see midi control output put but there is no MIDI in for port selections
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  • I have same issues connecting Yamaha montage and Akai MPC touch over midi cables. No sound or sample recording sound available. Software MPC is showing some keyboard movement but no any record of sound.Please if anyone has tried use upgraded version 2. mpc software, Maybe issues od midi ports and drivers resolve on new version.
    In general I dont have issues with Montage connecting with pro logic,but is I use this USB connectivity with pc I loose display on MPC touch,.So what is point to have MPC touch with no use of interface just a softwere.
    I contact akai seems like no one is willing to resolve complaint.
    Obvious they are pushing to purchase their third part keyboard akai who probable works great.
    If any has idea what to do to resolve it , highly appreciate assistants with this matter.
    thanks
    SID
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  • Yamaha Montage USB Compliant via USB input to MPC X Solved.

    I have resolved the issue.

    One need to use a powered USB hub connect to the USB port on the MPC X/live then plugin your Yamaha Montage USB to the Powered USB Hub.

    You can know set up Yamaha montage performances via init GM/AWM/FM/Drums each part of a performance is set to a MIDI Channel 1-16 (note you must use single performances MPC X/Live can not handle Multi timbre).

    Each part of a performance corresponds to a MIDI channel 1-16.

    Example: if you setup a performances via init and have a piano on part 1 = Midi channel 1, strings part 2 = MIDI channel 2, Pads part 3 = Midi channel 3. You now can go to you MPC X/Live under MIDI channel to select the desired part/MIDI channel via the Montage performances you just setup.
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