Can I change the CC #'s on the Transport buttons of the MPK261 ?

I'd like to change the CC numbers the Transport Buttons send on my Akai MPK 261. Is that possible ? Thanks.
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  • Sorry, I misread the question earlier so have come back to edit this...

    No, you can't assign the CC numbers for each individual transport button.

    You can choose from a few standards for all of the transport controls together, such as General MIDI CC, MMC, MMC/MIDI, MRT, PTEX, etc.

    In the MIDI CC mode you get the following:
    Stop 117
    Play 118
    Record 119
    Rew 115
    FFwd 116
    Loop 114

    If you want to see what is being sent by the transport controls in the various modes, load up something like MIDI OX or MIDI Monitor and have a look.

    PC: http://www.midiox.com/
    Mac: http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/

    If you have some creative/non-standard applications in mind for those buttons....Many DAWs will allow you to make custom maps, or to intercept MIDI events and transform them into something else in real time.

    If your DAW can't do do that, you might find Bome MIDI Translator a handy tool to have. Such a Utility can make any MIDI controller far more flexible. In this case you could even turn MIDI events into keyboard commands/macros, mouse clicks, etc...so that really unleashes a lot of MIDI controller power.
    http://www.bome.com/
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  • Thanks I was afraid of that but just wanted to check to be sure. Most of the DAWs I use allow you to customize them to accept the MPK's default CC numbers. However FL Studio will not. It has controller type templates but the MPK261 is not among them yet. FL's transport buttons do respond to MMC but the response is wonky at best. One of FL's controller types is for an Oxygen 61 which sends out different CC#s than the Akai. I wanted to use that controller template and change the Akai's CC#s to match but alas no can do.

    One great thing about the MPK261 is the Human Interface Device settings available on some of it's buttons. That means you can send out ordinary qwerty commands from those buttons even with modifiers such as Shift, Alt, and Ctrl. So no need for Bome's software which I have used in the past with older controllers. Anyway thanks for the answer even though it wasn't what I wanted to hear. Now off to the FL Studio forums to beg for an Akai template to match the CC#s it sends out by default.
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  • True about the HID features of the MPK2. I love that feature :)

    One catch there is that it only works over USB, where something like Bome can take any MIDI events....be they over usb, DIN MIDI, ipMIDI over WAN/LAN, etc, and manipulate them into whatever you want them to be in real time...

    If you still have Bome (or anything similar) it could be used to get your example Oxygen 61 profile working with the MPK2.

    Just have it transform whatever the MPK2 is sending into whatever your DAW is expecting. I.E. Filter CC117 Channel 1, resend it as CC115 Channel 10 instead.

    Not the ideal solution, but it can work until they get you a proper controller map :)
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  • Thanks for the reply but I don't want to install Bome's on my new studio computer which I try to keep as clean as possible. For now I'm using MMC to control FL's Transport. It's kind of wonky as sometimes FL responds in odd ways to commands but I'm working with their support team to get an Akai MPK261 Controller type added.

    In Sonar, Reaper, and Orion I can midi learn the transport buttons so no problem with them it's only FL Studio that does not allow transport midi learn but they do respond to CC's by using controller types. Bizarre but what can you do.
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  • Oh and as a side note what is "Midi Real Time" which is one of the options for the Transport Buttons ? The MPK Manual doesn't say much about it........
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  • I'm not positive, but I suspect it might include some extra information like Song number, bar position, etc. I seem to remember vintage hardware sequencers, drum machines, and MIDI/SMPTE sync-generators using it.

    Here's a general rundown of all the registered MIDI events.
    In table 2, you'll see quite a few transport centered events registered for potential use by MIDI Instrument makers. There's also some registered sysex based stuff in subsequent tables.
    http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midimes...

    Pop open a MIDI monitor and have have a look?
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  • Thanks, according to Robin Schmidt's excellent Midi Monitor plugin with "Midi Real Time" the Rewind and Forward buttons send Song Position Pointers. In Midi only mode they send CC # 115 and 116 respectively and a Center Pitch Wheel value on all 16 channels. Nice to know but doesn't help with the FL problem. I'll keep working with ImageLine's support to see if I can get a Controller Type template for the MPK261. That will help all users of the Akai and FL Studio. Any time anybody asks for recommendations for an excellent midi controller I always suggest the MPK261. It's the seventh midi controller I've owned (not counting hardware synths) and it's by far the best built and has the best feel.
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