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Force - No Software or Extentions included?

Maybe too naive, but all MPC series devices at the same price range comes with MPC Software 2. Anything is planned to be given with Force? or we have to buy stuff full price (that sucks). Would be fair to give at least some packs, Force comes with just few. My most interest is to compile my _own extention pack_, like I see it can be done with MPC suite. I am not looking to bring bunch of wav files to Force, to make instruments for every project, it will be tedious workflow. Being 64 pads and wider spectrum features Force is targeted not only traditional hip-hop family genres (mostly covered with packs) but broader EDM and Electronic genres. Without better scope of extensions and no (included) way to make your own, its dead on arrival, don’t you think?
Really hope that something is on a horizon, cheers!
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    Good post @Sam. I've been wondering the same thing since I picked up the Force last Friday. I love the Force (truly I think it is going to be eventually exactly what I've always wanted for a sampler) and I'm just starting to be able to do stuff with it -besides when my cat jumps on it and something awesome sounding happens.

    But learning the machine has become almost secondary to trying to figure out how to start off my workflow via (as @Sam succinctly states) creating my own extension packs *prior* to importing them to Force. I don't have much experience with hardware samplers (outside of hating myself for 5 months when i had the DJS-1000), and figured the packaging question would solve itself as I learned how to use the AF, but then I found out about Akai's MPC Software.

    Honestly, it sounds like WAY more than I've even want to deal with , but I'm surprised there's not a 'lite' version that is just for managing and packaging (normalizing, tagging, cue pointing?) samples. And yes I know my perspective is very -dj-centric but that's all i know really). I'm not 'irritated' or irate - or threatening to sell/destroy my AF if Akai doesn't do X, Y, Z.

    It just seems like it would be in the best interest of Akai to offer a super simple stripped down free piece of software than manages samples, and then make it available to users but also whoever happens to DL it, play with it and get hooked on the Akai workflow way.

    Thoughts from more experienced users? I'm sure this has been brought up before though.
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  • Hey Sam,

    Thanks for posting!

    I agree with you and matt_positive that a dedicated software for creating, editing, and exporting programs/expansions would be very beneficial to the Force workflow. At this time the Force does not come with bundled software as it is a standalone workstation.

    That said, MPC Expansions are supported on the Force and can be exported directly to an external device for use in standalone. This process works exactly the same as with the MPC X/Live utilizing the MPC Software or copying from your computer's MPC Content folder. This guide walks through the different exporting processes:

    AKAI PRO MPC LIVE AND MPC X - TRANSFERRING CONTENT TO AND FROM THE MPC LIVE AND MPC X

    In the meantime, I would suggest taking advantage of the MPC Software Trial to transfer programs and expansions to your Force. You will also have access to the MPC Expansion Builder Software, which allows you to create your own expansions from sample folders on your computer.

    We're all really excited to see what functionality will be added to the Force in the future and expect big developments to roll out as we receive more feedback from the Akai community. I'll definitely submit your requests to our development team for consideration in future updates!

    Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.

    Thanks for your input, matt_positive!
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  • Thank for the reply Nick.

    "expect big developments to roll out as we receive more feedback from the Akai"

    The feedback from community is - it comes with ZERO software to use it and UNDEFINED plans, promises for something "big".

    "use trial" ... and you like it, so you buy it?????? Common seriously? .... I bought enough of brick-mode hardware and non-existing software integration.

    Giving us free MPC bundle would be a fair start if you guys are really working on something "big". Hope you can listen.

    Cheers!
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  • Yeah, talk talk talk.

    If they wanted to do something for current Force users that got screwed on the early bird special for the "Sorry, here is your plate but you will get the eggs next year" people, give us a 2.x licensee so we can at least start putting together our own sample packs and patterns.

    Funny thought, if you use a USB stick to put samples on YOUR OWN Force, then why wouldn't we want to PUT OUR OWN patterns on the Force using that very same USB stick...

    Isn't it a lot of live workflows where we, create the set on a PC and import then JAM????

    By not giving your DAW to us, you have basically inadvertently said you have deals with Ableton and Splice and that those that buy the Force will pay them for more patterns and samples.

    But it's great you are working on networking and all that jaz, but can't even implement simple sequencer features(MIDI, Internal Routing). Old devs can see your tricks too much and it makes me sick.
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  • I also had this...

    I opened the box, found a flyer saying "REGISTER YOUR FORCE FOR FREE SOFTWARE BLABLA" (all caps) to only found an old update to an even older vst plugin that nobody asks for.

    Why not adding the MPC software to the package? Its another 250 we have to pay just for the better Force-Computer functionality!
    Or at least a 'light version of the software' so you can backup, prep Instruments and Tracks, Sequences etc
    And the MPC software is not that popular anyway, so it would be an excellent way to promote the software for AKAI.

    #missedmarketing
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  • Totally Wendel Kos. The frustration of finding nothing in download is only on par to WTF feeling finding that MPC given to Live/X users and Force treated like 2nd class citizens.

    Akai certangly realized that we will not be happy with MPC software not tuned to Force. So tell those losers bought Force - “ it does not come with bundled software as its standalone workstation”. Most nonsense statement I heard so far.

    “Don’t you get it - it’s standalone - you not suppose to get sound in or export anything you would do”.

    Indeed ridiculous. Not giving away OWN software to exactly, make packs and backup sound, is beyond any logic.

    It’s like you bought $1.5k gelato and have to sit and wait it melted before they let you lick it. Loosing my appetite with every day of waiting.
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