How can I record guitar into the mpc renaissance

I want to make some more rock oriented songs with the Ren using electric guitar and fx pedals. Can I simply plug my guitar into the pedals and the pedals out into the ren? Or do I need to use my amp or a vst plug in for fx? What is the best way to do this without loss of signal and quality? I have found no definitive answer so far,
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  • Corey S (Official Rep) April 25, 2016 15:27
    Hi,

    Thanks for posting!

    It's hard to give you a direct answer here because it comes down to the basics of signal routing, audio recording and especially personal preference.

    To record an electric guitar direct would require either an instrument input (which the Renaissance does not have) or DI box. An instrument input is just a standard 1/4" input that will match the impedance and signal level of the guitar (and pedals if you want to use them). But as an alternative you can use a DI box to do this for you. This can be very inexpensive and you would end up plugging the guitar and pedals into the input of the DI box, and the output of the DI Box into an XLR input on the Renaissance. From there you would treat it like a microphone signal and adjust the gain accordingly. These articles explain pretty well why that's important and how best to use it:

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug11...

    http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/tec...

    Personally, I prefer mic'ing an amp way more than taking a direct guitar signal. The exception being if I plan to re-amp the signal (record the guitar signal, clean or effected, and send it out to an amp later on to be recorded). Mixing with only a direct guitar signal always feels very fake to me, but I understand that it does have a time and a place.

    My recommendation would be to try both and do some experimenting to figure out what you like. If you plan to be adding a lot of this to your sound it will be worth it to familiarize yourself with the options and weigh them on your own. Direct is much easier since you don't need to worry about your acoustic space, but recording an actual live instrument is always more rewarding.

    Here's a few more articles that I think you may find helpful:

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug07...

    http://www.recordingmag.com/resources...

    Keep in mind, that some of this will take a lot of practice to get right and start making the right decisions, but it's not hard to have fun with this and get some very use-able material.

    Let me know if you have any questions!
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  • ok so I bought a DI box and I plugged into the right XLR input, BUT I can only hear sound in the right headphone speaker... How do I make it come out of both speakers? Also when I try and add any amp sim plugins they are not applied and all I hear is the clean guitar sound. I've been told that this method is called direct recording? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Also as a side not when I open my DAW (Reaper) I hit record arm and monitor but I can hear the sound coming out even if I don't arm the track. What am I doing wrong?
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  • Corey S (Official Rep) May 27, 2016 15:08
    So just to clarify, make sure that you're using an audio track in Reaper to record your guitar. The only way to record audio into MPC is via the sample record which is not what you're looking for here.

    It sounds like you have your direct monitor turned on which you won't want to use if you're relying on VST effects during recording. So instead, just turn your Direct Monitor knob all the way to the right to "Comp" so that MPC will only playback signal from your computer and not the direct input.

    Now you should be able to turn on Rec Arm and Monitor for your reaper track and hear the monitor from Reaper. This should be panned however the track is panned. I'd also assume that you would be able to hear the signal from any amp simulators/effects on the track, but I'm not sure how Reaper handles this. There may be some extra settings for that.

    I hope this helps!
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  • Will any o that solve my problem with sound only coming out of the right speaker or is that always the case due o being plugged into the right hand XLR input? How can I make it audible in both speakers? Thanks for your help :D
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