Mapping Breath Data in Ableton on EWI USB

I have experimented mapping the breath data on my EWI to many different controls in Ableton Live 9. I typically map the breath to velocity rather than the volume or the overall fader for the track. If I do it the other way, then the resonance gets softer with the actual note. Here is the problem: When I play the EWI through Ableton as opposed to Aria, it doesn't have the same range of dynamics. Sometimes when I get very soft on the EWI, the sound just cuts out. This doesn't happen with the Aria software so I know the EWI is capable of it. Am I mapping the breath data to the wrong location? Or is there some sort of bottom limiter that should be tweaked?

Any help is appreciated!
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  • The problen that you get if an instrument is set up to control its volume with velocity is that the velocity at the beginning of the note determines the maximum volume.

    I.e. when attacking a note softly you cannot go much higher than the soft volume that you get at the beginning. As a matter of fact the low breath level might make it even inaudible.

    You would have to either:
    a) set velocity to a fixed level on the EWI-USB or
    b) edit your synth patches to ignore velocity for volume and filters.
    Then assign breath (CC2 or maybe CC11 [if set up on the EWI]) to the level, etc.

    Mapping velocity to volume for non percussive instruments is generally a bad idea.

    Ingo

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  • I had the same problem. It changed when I mapped the volume in Ableton to breath date just by blowing into the EWI. In The Akai EWI USB standalone program I changed the "tools / EWI configuration / controller config,
    I assigned to CC1 "39 volume fine" and to CC2 "39 volume fine"
    Now the volume control in Ableton works without any cut outs.
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  • I assigned to CC1 "39 volume fine" and to CC2 "39 volume fine"

    This makes no sense at all. The EWI-USB doesn't send High Resolution breath. CC39 is the LSB of CC7 and all it does is clutter up your MIDI bus.

    Anyway, you're sending the same CC twice but you are not sending any working breath data as far as I can tell ...

    Ingo

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    • thanks for the answer! I think this might have happened: Once I had midi mapped the volume control in the Ableton rack to CC7 by blowing into the EWI, the changes I made in the EWI setup program had no influence anymore. I was thinking that it was working because of the additional changes I made, but it works just by midi mapping the volume control in Ableton.

      At the moment it works for me if I do it either by
      1) midi mapping the volume control in Ableton by blowing into the EWI, and turning off the breath controls in the EWI configuration program

      or

      2) Assigning "Breath CC2" to "Volume coarse" in the EWI configuration program, and no midi mapping in Ableton.

      midi mapping in Ableton seems to produce a better result.
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