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MIDI Out from MPC Plugin to Logic Pro X?

(Follow up from previous post) The goal is to sequence in the MPC plugin, but trigger virtual instrument on a Logic track, basically using Logic as a sound module.

The answer last time was no, however, I came across instructions for using EZDrummer in a similar way that involves going into the Logic Environment working with Click and Ports and Channel Splitter.

A bit complicated, so before attempting, I wonder if it's only possible because of EZDrummers MIDI Out feature. Anyone familiar enough with Logic & MPC to provide insight?

EZDrummer Instructions:

EZDRUMMER 2 MIDI OUT WITH APPLE LOGIC
Setting up Apple Logic

EZDrummer 2 MIDI Out function requires Logic version 8 or later.

Before you start, you should make sure that you are familiar with how to operate Virtual Instruments in your host and that you have a copy of YFDS (Your Favorite Drum Sampler) configured for Audio and MIDI playback.

1) Inserting the plug-in:
• Insert EZdrummer 2 on an Audio Instrument track

2) Setting up:
• Insert YFSG on an Audio Instrument track

• Enable MIDI out in the Menu of EZdrummer 2. (i.e. click Menu > Enable MIDI out

At this point you will be able to drive YFDS with EZdrummer 2 but you will also trigger any MIDI instrument that you happen to record-arm. You therefore need to perform the following for additional flexibility:

• Open the Logic Environment
• Copy paste YFDS Instrument track to the ‘Click and Ports’ layer
• Still in the ‘Click and Ports’ layer, create a ‘Channel Splitter’ object
• Connect the EZDrummer 2 entry of the ‘Physical Input’ to the Channel Splitter
• Connect Ch1 of the ‘Channel Splitter’ to the Instrument track with YFDS on

(the other channels can be used for additional sound sources you wish to drive)

• In EZdrummer 2, press Play
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  • Hey BezO,

    Thanks for posting!

    Even with the integration of EZDrummer, you will most likely not be able to bridge the MIDI gap between the MPC plugin and Logic. To do this, you will need to use a virtual MIDI bus. This allows you to route MIDI messages between different host applications for remote sequencing.

    Macs already have a native IAC bus that can be activated in your Audio MIDI Setup. When you activate the IAC Driver (you can engage multiple ports), your DAWs will display those ports within your MIDI Preferences for virtual routing.

    The Windows OS does not have a virtual MIDI driver like the macOS, but here are a few third party MIDI drivers that can create a virtual MIDI bus:

    While their inherent setups differ a little, the general theory is the same as the IAC bus.

    Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.
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  • I was able to use the IAC Bus out from the stand alone MPC software, into Logic. It's less than ideal for several reasons; Logic can't be slaved being the main problem. MPC as a plugin in Logic sending MIDI out to Instrument tracks in Logic would be ideal.

    Are you saying this would work with MPC as a plugin in Logic using the IAC Bus? If so, my question is can you provide some detail for setting that up?

    I'm on a Mac (Logic). The 3rd party Windows apps wouldn't be necessary.
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  • Hey BezO,

    I looked into this for you. I was hopeful at first that it might be a work around to the MIDI out issue we have been discussing. Unfortunately, the MPC plugin's MIDI ports continue to revert to DAW after selecting the IAC bus.

    For the time being, using the MPC standalone software will be your best bet. I'm not a Logic user so I can't walk you through that side of the setup. I suggest searching Apple's database; they have a lot of information on the subject. What I can tell you is that MPC can send and receive MIDI Clock. To sync the DAWs you would essentially send MC from IAC bus 1 in MPC and receive MC from IAC bus 1 in Logic.

    Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.
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  • Now that you say that, the ports reverting back to DAW is what I remember when trying it.

    I can get it to work with both softwares open separately, but Logic doesn't support being synced. I'd have to slave the MPC which is why I've been looking for a similar alternative.

    Eliza, thanks for looking into this for me!
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  • Any setup help with windows 10 cubase and MPC 2.5 using loobe30..

    Cab i use the MPC sound card on both applications or should i use my motu sound card.. also how to route to each applications on windows....
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  • To the OP (and the other folks Ive seen ask about this) - No matter what, MIDI cant be sent out of the MPC plugin in Logic. MIDI cant be sent out of any AU plugin. Its just not possible. Apple STILL hasn't added this to the AU spec yet, where VST instruments have been able to do it for a few years now.

    Its nothing the MPC Software or Akai can fix, this is all on Apple to add this feature to the Audio Unit standard.
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    • So the loopbe30 virtual midi won't work.. or should i just export.. im looking for realtime recording into my daw.. using my mixing console.. also im on windows and both cubase and MPC 2.5 launched not vst..
    • I haven't been a Windows audio user since Logic was still owned by Emagic so cant help much there. You could probably rig something with an app like MIDIYoke. This is basically the same thing as the Mac's IAC bus which just routes MIDI internally between apps. Its a virtual MIDI router. If the MPC VST plugin won't do it, then Akai just needs to make it happen, at least with the VST specification, instruments can send out MIDI as long as the developer codes it. We've been waiting for Apple to do this for ages now for Audio Units.
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