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MPC as a vst in Reason 10

I am having issues with the mpc 2.0 as a vst and i'm very frustrated that there's just no documentation available to help set it up. I have tried contacting Akai and have yet to receive a single response. I'm new to the MPC and with this kind of treatment i'm thinking about sending this thing back to sweetwater. I keep seeing all these odd videos on youtube, but the explanations are not detailed. How about a real tutorial if you are going to show people how you set it up. Like how did you cable things, and a look at your midi setup. These type of things matter in the troubleshooting process.

I can load the vst in Reason and can hear sound and mixer input, but when i hit record nothing... such a let down. I can't even focus on learning this new gear due to all the problems i'm having with getting it setup in my DAW.
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  • I was reading the MPC forum and someone is talking about Reason 10. They may be able to offer some help. Good luck !

    http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.p...
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  • Thanks fam!!! I will check it out! Hopefully i will get some answers!
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    When you use 2.0 as a VST/Plugin in Reason or any other DAW, the midi data is recorded in the MPC software initially. If you want each drum sound on its own channel in Reasons mixer, the simplest way is to bounce them out as audio and simply drag them over to the "Sequencer" section of Reason. Then you'll be able to mix your sounds to taste. Also the MPC software can be pretty CPU heavy while running inside of Reason, which in itself has a lot going on. There's a lot of DAWs and many different ways to use the MPC software/MPC X or Live and Akai can't cover them all. I'm sure their main focus right now is making sure 2.0 is as stable and feature rich as possible. Also don't be so quick to wanna send back gear due to lack of knowledge frustrations. There are videos on YouTube and tons of support groups on facebook where people are willing to help out in any way. The most popular MPC group is:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/Mpcso...

    Join up and we'll help in any way...
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    • Wow that's just alot of crazy to me. When you bring in the vst into Reason it creates an instrument track and an audio track. My expectation with this is that I can assign additional audio tracks to break out the tracks I've created inside the mpc software. It seems plausible that this would work as stated it creates an audio track, however when you select record in reason nothing is recorded to that track. This really does look like a software bug. Why would they allow it to create an audio track and not be able to use it? Thanks for your help really appreciate it. I've been looking at this for oh... a week non-stop now. I think any logical person who just purchased brand new gear would be pretty tired as well. I'm not giving up yet, but if I can't get this working and not have it be a burden to me then I will proceed forward.
    • It works for me fine with the mpd218. But when i use the mpc studio, i run into that problem. It wasnt desined to run every akai controller. But there are other ways around it for mac users.
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  • Mpc and reason record buttons don't sync automatically, might be a way to remap I've not yet figured it out. You gonna have to click record in mpc software not hardware and then press play in reason.
    • Inside of preferences in the MPC software, (Preferences>Hardware>Record/Overdub), and make sure 2.0 is set to "MPC Plugin" if you want to control "Record Overdub" from the MPC itself. I don't know of any other way to have the MPC's "Record-Overdub" control both the software and Reason's control Start/Stop. But first you press Record or Overdub on the your MPC or the software to arm 2.0 and get it ready to record. Then you press play in Reason and start recording into the MPC software. Once you record your data, you have the choice of simply bouncing to audio and dragging it over into Reason's sequencer. Or you can just leave it in 2.0 and arrange your sequences according to what you have in Reason.
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  • Hey dnkygirl,

    Thanks for posting!

    It looks like the community has been helpful to you!

    The MPC Software behaves very similarly in its plugin form compared to when it is used as standalone software. MPC Software has a 200+ page user guide that you can reference as you familiarize yourself with the workflow. You can open that document from the MPC Software's Help menu. I would certainly recommend keeping that handy while you get familiar.

    As far as using the plugin with a DAW like Reason, you can send different output channels from MPC (Output 1-2, Output 3-4, Output 5-6 etc.) to auxiliary audio tracks in Reason so that they receive audio from MPC's tracks. You could also build sequences in MPC and export the tracks as individual audio files (using the explode tracks function) or as a whole for further processing in Reason or other DAWs.

    If you want to use the MPC hardware less like an MPC and more like a MIDI controller to send MIDI data to Reason, you can use MIDI Control Mode.

    Outside of those functions, as I mentioned, MPC will behave similarly whether it is opened as a plugin or as standalone software so check out the suggested communities in the posts above, keep the user guide available, and get ready to dig into MPC!

    I hope this helps and I hope you enjoy using the MPC hardware and software! Let me know if you have any questions.

    Thanks everybody for helping out!
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  • I do appreciate the help I really do, but I still don't have specific instructions related to Reason. If you looked at the vst inside of Reason you would find that it creates an instrument track along with a single audio track. The back of the instrument track only has a single pair of outs. So please explain to me how to route this to additional audio sources when there's only 1 stereo pair? If you create multiple tracks in the mpc software i don't see a way to reroute them inside reason. I feel like no one is really understanding what i'm trying to do still. I think i'm being as clear as possible. If you could please open Reason and take a look at this issue, then provide the appropriate feedback. I'm looking for detailed instructions on how to do this and while other DAW's may work great with passing out the outputs as you noted I don't see that in Reason 10.
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  • Also i really think it would be time consuming and a real workflow killer to have to export out the parts i needed from the mpc and import them into Reason. It just seems like the vst should allow you to still use the MPC in all it's glory as an instrument and pass the audio to the DAW as you stated. I don't think i will be using the MPC as a controller as i've not had very good luck with getting it setup to control the transport.
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    • More like knowledge exchange. You showed me how to setup the hardware cheers for that. Welcome back to Reason.
    • No doubt! I must admit, it’s a lot doper with vst Support along with the new instruments.
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  • Thanks again guys! I did locate the additional outs hidden away in the cv programmer and the little time I spent with it last night I was able to route the audio out to a line mixer. I'm having issues with just routing out to an audio track. It only gives you the ability to use insert fx's or side chain. I need to pull out the Reason manual to try to figure out how to route direct to an audio track this would the optimal way to use it with the mpc. I could then build a rack template for recording with the MPC which is what my ultimate goal was to do. This makes it easy to just create what items I need in the MPC and add additional layers using Reason instruments or the komplete vst's. I'm starting to see the light... at the end of the tunnel. After I get where i'm going I will create some documentation. No newbie should have to suffer the way i'm suffering.
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  • Hello All,

    Ok I have created some documentation on how to use Reason 10 with the MPC Touch. I suppose this process would work with any MPC, but I only have a touch and can't confirm the operation of other units. I am using MPC software version 2.0 the latest version with the patch release from earlier this week. I am also using the most current version of Reason 10 with it's latest patch release. I hope this helps others... as I struggled to get this working with the Akai vst. I hope they address the programming issues with the MPC vst software so that it works as it does with other DAW's.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1psxzyylsb...
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  • I posted up a video on youtube showing how I'm using the MPC vst in Reason 10. I am using it as an independent device inside reason and then building my drum tracks up in song mode. I found that this gives me more control over the MPC from a software perspective. It didn't add alot to my workflow it just makes me more organized. just wanted to share this information with my family as you have helped me a great deal when I first started learning how to use my touch. Thank you!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibfN...

    This is the video to support that document that I created a few months back. It may make more sense to see how I'm using it on video.
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