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Onboard eq-comp vs sound-design

Hello everyone, so how you feel the quality of onboard compressors in Live / X? I have the feeling that it can make a good result if your samples are well recorded or preprocessed. Like, I generated a kick/bass pair from VST instruments, shaped and designed them with UAD plugins and then in final live situation I'm glued together with onboard EQ-comp at the outputs. In other hand, these onboard processors are not so handy for me while sound-designing the material.
What's your opinion?
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  • Hi, we're used to work with Wave Plug-Ins a lot for sound-design and final shaping. Since you've mentioned UAD plug-ins, comparing these to the MPC internal effects
    seem not quite "levelled-out" ..we'd say. Take the UAD virtual emulations of the SSL,
    Neve or Fairchild circuits for instance, that's very much the hi-end of what the music
    industry can offer. Also, the cost of 3-4 UAD plugs will buy you a MPC Live alone. It
    seems not an bad idea to pre-shape the sound material externally and bring them in
    the MPC hardware. Many MPC expansions make quite some use of that procedure.
    Personally we very much prefer to sample dry, since having fixed effects on samples
    can result in quite an overblown sound experience.

    Anyway. Effects are very important for the MPC series, since they shape sounds in
    different manners. We'd love to see more priority on this subject in the future. Maybe
    Akai should team up with an industry specialist on that subject. (Cubasis for iOS did
    suddenly introduce build-in WAVE effects, which is sound-vise quite a leap forward)

    Introduction of effect presets for the internal MPC Soft- and Hardware would be a
    good starting point. If you know how to use effects, you're able to use Akai internal
    effects for creating good sounding results. Effects are useful but don't expect some
    Roland RE-501 Tape Delay and Co./equal results.

    Regards,
    PSOUND
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  • Hi! Thanks for the reply.
    So I could share my experience after all. I'm seeking for the best practice to reach a "mastered-like" sound but in live performance. My approach stands on the fact that MPC Live has 6 outputs which means low-mid-high separation finally. I tought that if I can preprocess my samples with high-quality units like UAD and some other trustable plugins, then onboard EQ-comp finalizer on the 3 stereo out "bus" may do the rest of the work.
    I've been made a short comparison on the FINAL busses with Neve 33609 and the onboard Master Comp. What a plugin normally CAN achieve on an already well processed mixbus, there were not so huge difference - both processed and gained it well, maybe the 33609 placed some usual Neve-sound on the end, but I think in live situation it doesn't matter as much.
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  • Hey everybody,

    Great discussion! Let's keep it going :)
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