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Akai MPK Mini MK2 Pads Delay

Hello! I bought MPK Mini MK2 and was happy until I discovered that this controller there is a delay on the pads. Very small, but very bother you when playing fast on the pads. The keys have no delay. (ASIO 128 Samples) Support anything intelligible writes. How to get rid of this delay? Do you release firmware?
This is my 4 AKAI controller and I am very upset. Please reply to this topic.
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  • Hello,

    Thanks for posting.

    I haven't run into any considerable delay with the MPK mini MKII pads, versus the keys. Any physical control will have a short delay and not all physical pads/keys will feel the same.

    In that sense, a real acoustic piano has quite a bit of what one might call "delay" from the time you press the key to the time the hammer strikes the string.

    If by "delay" if you were referring to how the pad "re-triggers" (playing one pad very rapidly with multiple fingers), that is also due to the nature of the physical design.

    Please clarify exactly what you mean a bit further and I'd be happy to help!
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    • The problem with a quick game of the pads available. But it is not as terrible as the delay that occurs between the pad and the thud of sound playing program. Once again I repeat: when I play on the keys - there is no delay. When playing the pads, they light up immediately, but with a delay and the sound is played too delayed. ASIO FINE (64-112-128 samples). Why is no such problem with the LPD?
    • Connect the controller at the same time and checked. On MPK delay. On the LPD - no delay.
      Help me to solve this problem. I am very angry and upset.
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  • And yes, I have 7 years of playing the piano. I know whereof I speak
    I mean delay of the hardware within the controller, not the physical. I hit the pad lights MPK mini MK2 lights after 1 \ 8 seconds (approximately). I hope that this can be corrected release firmware. Otherwise, it is possible that the engineers did not correctly calculate the electric schematics. Either my marriage. Please do not send me a phone hotline. In my country the phone is not supported.
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  • 25ms is not a "very small" delay as you described earlier.

    It does not sound like this is what you are experiencing.

    It's difficult to talk about delay on a forum or through email. That being said, I do not believe there are any hardware issues with your MPK mini MKII.
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    • Hello,

      If the same symptoms occurred on the second computer I suspect a hardware problem.

      There is no need for a software update as this is not a problem with all of the MPK Mini MK2 units.

      I have one here at my desk that does not respond this way.

      The distributor which covers the country or region where your product was purchased or retailer it was purchased from will be able answer any questions you may have about your product’s warranty, and can refer you to the appropriate service center. The answers to questions such as, “What’s covered by my warranty?” and, “How long is the warranty coverage?” are determined by the distributor from which the product is originally purchased. We will be happy to provide you with their contact information. Please note that your product is only eligible for warranty coverage in the country or distributor territory from which it was purchased. If you have moved, or you are now located in a different region from the one in which you purchased their product, or if your purchase was not made from an authorized dealer we can also provide you contact information for the closest distributor to you who may be able to offer non-warranty service. You may also find the following on-line resources helpful:

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      Please let me know if there is anything else I can do for you!

      Only those that support me written here is (I talked to her for about a week - two weeks)
    • You do not believe me? I find it difficult to communicate through an interpreter Google.
      But the delay, I showed you on the photo.
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  • With the support I talk about a week. In the case do not say anything. You can have a hypothesis why there is such a delay on the pads?
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  • I have the same problem. I have confirmed it is not my latency/buffer size. I'm running an RME pcie card at 64 samples. The keyboard of the mpk mini 2 is not delayed. The pads are delayed. My novation controller also does not have such a delay.

    I bought the controller in August 2014. Perhaps some early models have a problem?

    Thanks for your help,
    Eric
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    I am currently having this issue as well however it is on both the keyboard and the pads and they delay is pretty bad. i have a brand new mac and mkp mini mk2. please help
    • Hector,

      Here's a pretty interesting article on the topic of latency:
      http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05...

      You'll most likely need to tweak the buffers in your audio card. The delay is caused by the time it takes for the Mac to trigger the command sent by the controller, process it, and send it through the audio hardware.

      Typically, you can get this latency much lower through the preferences or options setting in your Music software. If your application doesn't have options for setting these buffers, then you might have to do it directly in your sound card drivers.

      What type of computer do you have (Yes, a Mac, but what processor/memory/OS version)?

      What type of audio interface?

      What instrument, application, or DAW are you trying play with your MPK2?

      Smaller buffers give smaller delays, while larger buffers can process more streams with more effects applied without suffering from dropouts or poor audio quality.

      If you're using the built in audio chip-set on your computer, you could probably start with a buffer of around 512k, and see if you can go smaller before you get any clicks, dropouts, or distorted audio. A good modern Mac should get you down to 128k or less until you really start loading it down with lots of plugins/tracks/effects. For many cards I've seen, 512k and smaller should get you down to latency of less than 40ms. If that's not tight enough for you, it might be time to look at getting a nice audio interface (possibly a more powerful computer if you're trying to run pretty beefy plugins, or use lots of effects/many tracks/etc...we just need to know more about what you're working with).
    • thank you, saved my night. Very cool of you my friend, NH loves ya
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  • When one says the keys do not delay, but the pads do, I'm left wondering if they were both talking to the SAME plugin/instrument, tuned into the same patch or preset.

    I.E. If the keys were assigned to run a piano sound in Halion, while the drum pads were set to control an MPC Essentials track, then the delay may well be generated somewhere other than the controller. Is the delay 'consistent' across a wide variety of different projects, plugins, and presets?

    Different DAWs have different methods of monitoring and dealing with (or making adjustments to) record and monitoring latency across different tracks. I.E. CuBase has ASIO guard which can attempt to automatically correct these things for currently 'armed' tracks. I'm not sure what they call it, but Reaper has some serious voodoo black magic (in a good way) going on when it comes to tighter timing and correcting latency issues across different tracks.

    If one adds some effects like reverb, compression, delay, and so forth into the matrix, then that's going to add potential latency issues...as the computer will need some extra cycles to process those effects. With that in mind, it's not all that unusual to have one patch in a plugin that lags behind. If that's the case, you'll either need to use the DAW's latency correction features to slide those samples forward a bit, or ask all the others to be held back a bit.

    To test this theory, one needs to load up a stand alone synth or drum machine, and try playing the SAME Patch/Preset with both the keys and the pads. If the latency is equal in this case, then it goes back to DAW, Plugins, and audio device.

    One can also load up something like MIDI OX (PC), or MIDI Monitor (MAC) to visually compare response times between the keys and pads. If it looks and feels right here, then the delays are caused by the DAW and audio device.

    When one reaches a point where the DAW introduces so much latency it's almost impossible to play along live....it boils down to muting all but an essential track or two while recording, and possibly even monitoring directly from the sound card drivers instead of through the DAW.

    Here's a worthwhile read on dealing with DAW latency:
    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05...
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