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Salamander Piano on MPC

There is a free, relatively well known and widely available sampled piano out there called the "Salamander Piano" created by the owner of this page: https://rytmenpinne.wordpress.com/sou... . It is commonly distributed as a sound font and free to use: the original author only requests that reference by made to the original.

It provides the piano keys sampled in minor 3rds at 16 velocities per key with additional samples such as pedal noise, key off sounds etc, many of which can't effectively be supported on the MPC anyway. The sound font is relatively large (1.9Gb): considerably too large to fit on a standalone MPC. To solve this I took 4 representative velocities for each key provided and made a key program containing 30 key groups containing 4 samples each. The original samples were stereo 24-bit 48khz, but to save space I resampled down to 16-bit 44.1khz (reducing it by about 40%). I also used a piano tuning app to try and tune the notes a little but the app wasn't getting a clear reading in the upper register so that is left as is. In any case, when loaded the instrument takes the memory usage bar on my MPC Live to about 50% and zips up to about 190mb.

In contrast to the two pianos that came with the MPC Live I find this to be fairly playable from a keyboard controller and it has the powerful bass register (which you may or may not actually be interested in). It is also about twice the size of the included pianos, but it plays much more like a piano when used on a keyboard controller.

If this sounds interesting, I'd be happy to share, but I don't have a good platform to host it. If someone is interested and sufficiently motivated I'll provide them the zip to share host and share.
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  • I’m thankful
    That's great ! 4 time velocity layered samples already sound good in our ears. This
    (4) technique is actually a big advantage over other pad-maschines. Anyway, why
    not uploading it to a free cloud service? (f.e. google drive offers 15gb, dropbox 2gb).
    Else we ourselves have unlimited traffic on servers. How can we get that sound?

    Thanks, Daniel!

    PSOUND
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  • Please share it! I actually adapted this soundfont some years ago for JJOS, and would love to find it for the X/Live. You seem to have put a lot of work in it, with the4 layers velocity.

    Maybe you could upload it to https://mega.nz/ ?
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  • Okay: Seems like some people might be interested so I'll make a dropbox account and upload it there this evening. Hopefully it'll be helpful to someone.

    I've found the MPCs drum offerings to be excellent, but in other aspects the programs it includes don't suit me that well (though it's great to have them right out of the box). In particular, there are quite a lot of nice stabs/hits for strings and brass in the multi/drum programs but I find it lacking in complete instruments you can play chromatically.

    The instruments of that sort are dominated by synth lead, bass and pads which aren't that useful to me as I have many synths anyway: No non synth bass, Limited brass, No woodwind. I'd hope that, in the next iteration, Akai realize that people are using the MPC for things other than EDM & Hip hop and make the stock program set reflect that. Even a limited range of orchestral instruments (Glockenspiel, Marimba, acoustic/upright bass, violin, cello, [muted]trumpet, tuba, saxophone, clarinet...) would significantly improve the usefulness of the device out of the box for composition and I'm sure they'd come in handy in many genres. This would have made my day one experience with the unit a much better one.
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    Great, we'll download it and might come up with some own sound layered creations.

    The ability of the MPCs to layer samples and even play them randomly really stands
    out from other drum solutions on the market. We did a lot of round robin hardware
    synth sampling, sometimes overnight with 10 times velocity layers on every key. It
    is really needed and the Maschine stuff doesn't layer at all until today. What a pain!

    Anyway, a great Video on Round Robin and random playback on the MPC Live is
    here, done by Vault 7 Records. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0bZ...

    And, yeah! An Orchestra lib for the MPC could be quite good. A Peter Siedlaczek
    Advanced Orchestral would just do. That Lib is now around for over 10 years and
    would just fit the basic. It was available in Akai S300 format, shouldn't be to hard
    to take it over to MPCs. We loved the staccato strings and harp sounds for sure.

    PSOUND
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  • Hey Daniel,

    Thanks very much for sharing! I am sure the community will appreciate your efforts :)
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    Okay, so I zipped up the files (xpm + wavs) and uploaded it to Dropbox. It should be available to download now. It seems to ask if you have an account but there is a link to view without an account which seems to work. Here is the link:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/be6nc63ux6t...
    I consider it a derivative of the original Salamander piano samples I mentioned earlier so consider it distributed under the same terms.
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    Thanks for the DL. Will check out this piano on my X. Keep up the great work!
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    I just tried it and it works like a charm, thank you Daniel!
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    It does sound great on MPC Renaissance, thanks Daniel for all the work!

    We've added Q-Link options for the MPC Ren./X to have direkt access for reverb
    settings (see pic). Just drop the Salamander-Piano.xpm program file into the folder,
    it uses the same provided sample files and does not overwrite the original program.

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    https://www.blogsmog.de/PSOUNDS/Salam...

    PSOUND
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