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Saving projects

If using MPC Renaissance in Live9, how can I see what project is actually loaded in the MPC? My usual way to save is saving the Live9 Liveset first, then save the MPC project inside the same folder with the same name.

Q1: Do I imperiatively have to reopen the renamed project in the MPC so that it is recognized as the actual project?

Q2: Do I always have to save the MPC project before quitting Live9 or is the project automatically saved when saving the Live9 Liveset.

Sometimes grooves seem to be different after reopening.

Thanks for some expert advise here.
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  • Hello and thanks for posting!

    Since the MPC plugin does not open a "project" in the same way the standalone app does, there is no name displayed on the plugin interface. Perhaps the best method from a workflow standpoint would be naming the Sequences inside the plugin.

    While Ableton will save the parameters of many 3rd party plugins within a saved Live Set, my experience with a variety of DAWs and plugins is that the function is rather inconsistent. With Logic, Ableton, and Pro Tools I've had things change or go missing upon reloading a project with existing instruments/effects.

    So, my honest recommendation is to "Save Project As" in the MPC plugin, then save the Ableton Live set. This will also afford the convenience of having a hard copy of the MPC project that you could open in standalone if you ever wanted to tweak outside of Ableton.

    Let me know if this answers your question!
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    Good info here thanks for the question and reply. So to clarify: Keep two separate project folders: One for Ableton and one for the MPC for ONE song correct? What if we dont plan on using the MPC Renn in standalone mode? Is there any other reason we would or should not store/create MPC Project folders INSIDE of the Ableton Project Folder? Any possibility of corrupt files etc?

    Thanks!

    J
    • Yes. When it's time to take a break, save your MPC project and then your DAW project. The main benefit is having a copy that you could edit in standalone or send to another MPC user (that might not have your DAW).

      As far as corrupt files.... with the MPC plugins I've not seen it happen yet. However, over the years using Logic 9 and Ableton with a variety of plugins, I have occasionally seen what I perceive to be things not saving; little things here and there.

      This might just be me being paranoid, but in the end I suppose it would be a good habit to save both copies, if just for peace of mind :)
    • **The main benefit is having a copy that you could edit in standalone or send to another MPC user (that might not have your DAW)**

      Yea you're right. Thanks for the reply, this would be very beneficial if taking the MPC "on the road", without a laptop or to send to remixers. Now that you mention it... One of the main purpose of the mpc IS TO USE IT in standalone mode, which can be a very liberating, and inspiring to say the least. Its a whole new yet old school way to mix and should be considered a foundation when producing a track. I have owned just about every version of your MPC hardware, some with JJos etc and I would like to thank all the people at AKAI for this new hardware release and software updates past and present. Great work - Keep it up!
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  • Q: When I save the project with a new name, do I have to reload it afterwards so that the MPC software knows which one to load the next time? Not that it stays with the initial MPC State project...
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  • Basically, whatever "state" the MPC software is in when Ableton saves is what will pull up when Ableton re-opens.

    So, as long as you save your MPC project 1st and Ableton 2nd, it should always retain.
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  • Its a tricky question..
    Q: When I save the project with a new name:
    Ableton or MPC?
    Q: do I have to reload it afterwards
    Ableton or MPC?
    Please be very specific. Esplain it to us like we are 5 :)
    Its all very tricky, critical and important for productive workflow.
    99% perspiration - 1% inspiration.!
    Thanks!
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  • In MPC it is quite obvious because you have the title of the project in the title bar of MPC software, but in Ableton you don't.
    I made a project in MPC, saved it, quit MPC, started Ableton, dragged the MPC plugin in it and opened the saved MPC project, then saved the Liveset. Now I edited the sequences and tracks and only saved the Ableton Liveset, not the MPC. Quit and opened MPC, opened the project and see, all the edits were still there. so there seems to be some intelligent feature saving the MPC project when you save the Ableton Liveset.
    Correct me if I am wrong...
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    • Thank you both for all the great info.!
    • No problem!
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