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Sidechain on MPC live?
hi, is there a way to sidechain a bass sample to a kick drum or other pad within the MPC Live to make the bass duck out? or can the effect be achieved with another technique? thanks
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32.4 just got announced. Has a new FX called Motherducker that allows side-chaining from one track to another. So not 3rd party support yet but at least there will be a tool to do it now. -
4Hey Pete. Im sure you have the best intentions. But people in this thread including me want sidechaining in the box. Please stop making this thread about you and alternatives.
Just like you im also a dinosaur. I know the alternatives. But its 2018. Things evolve. We already made the point that it's industry standard and almost all the competition has this feature. Cost of software is cheap for a developer, you duplicate code almost for free in as much products as you want. You dont need costly outboard gear anymore. Sure often outboard gear sounds better but thats another discussion. It makes the process more efficient so you can put your energy into music making instead of the technical stuff. This principle goes for a lot of processes in the world. I often also dislike newer generations because of their lack of initiative, but I do acknowledge the progress in efficiency it sparks.
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3Guys, hope all of you click that +1 button on the very top, in the question itself. Not sure Nick D is still around, but that "people have this question" counter looks too far low for the AKAI olymp to consider.
Seems like only 15 people are missing this feature, which I'm sure is more like 15 000 people :) -
3What are the chances that the side chain will appear in the next update? -
3Adding a "Pump" effect (a la new Korg Electribe) would be a welcome interim solution. But it works assuming the sound you want to "duck" is a regular meter, and particularly on first quarter note. For "irregular" kick-ducking correlations, sidechain compression would need to be implemented properly.
Any box claiming stake in creating dance /electronic music genres needs sidechaining.
Thank you Akai. -
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3Hey Felix,
Thanks for posting!
I'm glad to see there is interest in sidechaining capabilities. I have personally submitted this as a feature request - I would love to see this function added to the MPC Live!
Thank you for your feedback!
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I asked about this. They said they're adding it to their official 2.0 suggestions.Comment -
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1should have been added yesterday...
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3Hey Felix,
Thanks for posting!
I'm glad to see there is interest in sidechaining capabilities. I have personally submitted this as a feature request - I would love to see this function added to the MPC Live!
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Any word, sir?
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Any info? We need this!
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2Yes that would be an incredibly great feature!
Even a "pump" effect just like it's done in the new Electribes series or even better like cableguys volumeshaper.
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1Need that side chain yo !! -
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1Plus one, i need that in my live. (pun intended) -
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3Adding a "Pump" effect (a la new Korg Electribe) would be a welcome interim solution. But it works assuming the sound you want to "duck" is a regular meter, and particularly on first quarter note. For "irregular" kick-ducking correlations, sidechain compression would need to be implemented properly.
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Thank you Akai. -
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1Waiting so much! -
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1if they give the LFO section some more options and wave shapes, we could use that. Like LFOtool https://www.xferrecords.com/products/... or Kickstart http://www.kickstart-plugin.com
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This is what I was thinking. Can we insert a compressor and use a Q-link to ride the compressor volume, and record that? In ableton its my preferred way of Sidechaining. Then take the controller data and nudge it a bit until it sounds right. I just got the Live so i will have to test it out.
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2tick tock .... are we there yet?
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3What are the chances that the side chain will appear in the next update?
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1+9 !!!!! come on Akai... ---> 2018 !!
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1also I am looking for this feature ... -
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1+1 cmon akai, many very please? )
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2I mean how frustrating is this?
Countless people started a thread here that they want sidechain.
Every time Nick D comes around asking to file a feature request.
I submitted feature requests countless times.
In my world, for 4/4 dance music sidechain (or similar effect) is mandatory.
I guess the MPC live is not meant for 4/4 dance people.
Even the Korg Electribe Sampler has it...-
I want it for Lofi Hip-hop as well. For a regular side chain like 4/4, you can sometimes get by with volume automation, but for more complex breakbeat rhythms, there's really no good workarounds to a lack of sidechain. My MPC Live has been sitting relatively unused since I bought it a few months ago, due to this critical missing function and instead, I've continued to rely on Ableton Live & the Ableton Push 2 as my workhorse.
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3Guys, hope all of you click that +1 button on the very top, in the question itself. Not sure Nick D is still around, but that "people have this question" counter looks too far low for the AKAI olymp to consider.
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1If they still was a Japanese company we would have sidechain and arpeggiotor -
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I found a solution to this and it's not too bad unless you have lots of kick variations in your song.
Using Volume Shaper you can set it to 1/4/8/16 bar loops. Then you just create volume fades that correspond to your kick pattern.
Here's a simple example using a 1 bar loop with a double kick. Just tested and it sounded perfect, plus you have extra control over each hit. There's a tool in Volume Shaper that makes it easy to draw this in too. Took me about 1 minute.
Here's a clip:
https://clyp.it/qmqn2sqe-
I don't use their DAW. I use Ableton for that. What I'm looking for is sidechain on the MPC Live which has been collecting dust at my house. Even my cheap little Novation Circuit has some basic sidechain capabilities.
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On the standalone unit please
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1Any official update Akai? -
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1Strange how this standard feature is not a priority for Akai Professional? But then again, PDC and Mackie Control Universal doesn't seem to be either... -
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1I too would like this feature. -
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1+1 and a lot of people from forums.
AKAI, step up your game, the community wants you to succeed and not let this machine die off to others. There is a lot of competition nowadays. You've got a solid piece, just polish it. -
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1They will never do this, you guys wait 1 year and they dont care. xD -
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1+1 for sidechain PLEASE - I need SIDECHAIN. -
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Just chop your samples in 1/4 notes and make sure the transient is not too far from the slice mar. Then go to program edit and select all pads. With all pads selected adjust attack and decay accordingly. I usually go for 70 Attack.
It is not as good as sidechaining but at least one can get rid of drums/transients in samples. -
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Agreed if making house music, but I don't typically make 4 on the floor type beats, I do break beats like hip hop.
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1Side Chaining must be an incedibly dificult block of code if a genius expert like Pete Goodlife can't do it.
Maybe our collective requests for such an industry standard feature might be problematic for the Akai Pro engineering team?
Perhaps we should just give up all hope and mix our beats in other DAWs like FL Studio, Logic ProX, Ableton, Cubase, Mixbus, Reason, Bitwig, and Reaper instead? Those have sidechaining, although it would be nice to sidechain before the final mixing stage, but isn't it obvious?
The engineering team at Akai Pro don't have the skill set to do it, or it would have been done eons ago...- view 3 more comments
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Or you can consider buying a used analog Compressor for about $30-$50 like Alesis 3630 or dbx 266XL and inserting it in your MPC LIVE or MPC X and then you'll have REAL analog standalone sidechaining
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I hear you, but I bought the Live specifically for portability, and adding external devices breaks that experience.
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1It might be linked to PDC, I assume for Sidechain to work properly that would have to be accounted for first.
As I have shown in an earlier post, using something like Volumeshaper will do the same thing and even allow some degree of non 4/4 use, even if slightly cumbersome.-
I strongly agree and kinda alluded to this in an earlier post months ago. Not dissing MPC software because I absolutely love it, but we don't have to mix in it. There are other DAWs we can mix our MPC beats with...
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