SysEx MIDI Dump

Is it possible to record SysEx MIDI Dumps in the MPC Ren? I would like to save my Nord Lead 3 synth patches to MPC projects/sequences, is this possible?
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  • Hello Jay,

    Thanks for posting!

    Yes, the MPC Ren will record and playback sysex dumps just as it would record any other MIDI data.

    If you've dealt with Sysex before, you're probably familiar with how "sensitive" different synths are to receiving it. The most common problems I see are when playing back sysex data to the synth. Sometimes the data will play back too fast for the Nord to receive, in which case you'd have to slow down the tempo. Generally, if you playback the sysex at the same tempo it was recorded, it shouldn't have trouble, but it's good to know anyway.

    I've had trouble in the past with other MIDI interfaces with multiple outputs or with a single output port connecting to multiple devices on different channels. That might not apply here, but still good to keep in mind.

    Let me know if this helps!
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  • Hi,

    I tried to do a Sysex midi dump in the renaissance but I can't.
    I have an access Virus C rack. I successfully dumped and loaded full banks and single patches using midi ox and the virus.

    Is there any configuration in the mpc sequencer that would help me ?

    Thank you
    Vincent
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  • Hello Vincent,

    There aren't any filters or other sysex dump related settings in the MPC Software, so I'm not sure what may be causing it. It you were sending out to the Virus, I'd say the tempo of the project might have an effect. If it comes to receiving/recording the dump, I'm not sure.

    I'd recommending sticking with MIDI-OX on this one. That program is designed to be , for lack of a better, "transparent", specifically for sysex or bulk MIDI receive and playback.

    If the end objective was live transmitting of dumps from a sequence to load a fresh set of patches mid-song, etc... I've yet to find any DAW capable of doing this reliably. Your best bet with a synth like the Virus would be picking one user bank, laying out your patches sequentially, then have the sequencer send program changes through the track.

    But if it's just the occasional patch refreshing, MIDI-OX would be the answer.

    Hope this helps!
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  • Hi Dan,

    Thanks for your answer.
    Yes, my objective was to store my patches in my songs/load some patches mid-song.

    Fortunately, with the single and multi modes of the virus, I have a few options to send program changes. Multi program changes seem to be set on midi channel 1. At the same time, I can send single program changes to the other 15 midi channels. (A multi program is 16 single patches from any bank you want.)
    Then I have to save all my sounds on bank A or B (because you cannot dump from banks C to H) Then I dump the bank A or B. And then I can dump the multi programs (wich contain the structure, not the sounds)

    That's why I wanted to work with sysex...it's a little less management ;)

    I have not tried sysex dump with other DAW as I don't really want to use anything else on the computer than the mpc software.

    Maybe there is something I am missing somewhere for the sysex dump to work. I'll certainly try again in the future and let you know if it works !

    Vincent
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