What devices can be combined with my MPC Element? (a device that is not a keyboard)

hello:
what device can i combine with my MPC Element?
I noticed the element has midi in and out mini ports ..
I can't find much info besides the PDF manual.
_ I need a device that is not a midi keyboard.
A small device with knobs and faders'
primary a midi device with only faders & knobs/ a mixer type device.
That's all i really need.-
_Would the 'Akai midimix' be a good choice?
The element is great, but need more manual control over my
'knobs and faders' with my plugins/vst and daw.
- thanks for any help in advance
-kind regards
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  • _Question 02_
    could i connect/link my mpc element with a Akai MPD226, and use the mixer options on the Akai MPD226 to control the plugin/VST settings/dials/knobs/faders
    via my Element -
    _ Thinking out-loud -
    I might have this all wrong - Just a quick idea going through my head -
    Thanks.
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    I think only MPC Studio/Ren can do that, software is locked to those 3 devices. I tried trough usb and software connections to hook up LPD8 with it but no luck. Probably for midi in/out is the same.
    And if u think about it hooking my 2 lpd8s will blow studio controller away but who would buy other more expensive versions if thats possible??
    Luckily automations are easy to record, you just have to use mouse instead of knobs and twiddle knobs in software-problem solved
    Oh I see now Akai MPD226 comes with Akai Pro MPC Essentials... But some version of mpk also and it couldnt control MPC Essentials. Wait for "official" response anyway, ho knows maybe Im in wrong
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  • I'm assuming you already own an Elements...so it won't hurt to look into some things.

    I don't own an Elements, but looking at the spec sheet it looks like you can drive any hardware or software with it that accepts general MIDI.

    http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpcele...

    I don't know what MIDI channel it sends over, or if you can even change'/set this, or how the pads are mapped out (I'd guess it's just like we see in Essentials)...but chances are good you can load up something like MIDI OX and have a look at what all it sends.

    http://www.midiox.com/

    According to the spec sheet, the transport controls send MMC (MIDI Machine Control) events, so that should control (stop/start/pause/rw/ff) a vast number of software and hardware sequencers and DAWs. Of course you'll have to tell your master sequencer or DAW to listen for and make use of the MMC commands.

    If the Elements has any built in step sequencers/arpeggiators, then you might need to send it a clock signal before those work.

    With a quick glance at the user guide on the akaipro website, I don't see any way to adjust the mapping and messages of buttons and pads on the Elements controller, so you're pretty much stuck with what ever it sends by default; however, most plugins, DAWs, and hardware sequencers will allow you to remap things on their end to work with whatever controllers/layouts you like 'if' you really need to do this for some reason. I've also noticed that quite a few MPC style plugins have a way to enable 'AKAI MPC' mapping (such is the case with my Steinberg Groove Agent plugins).

    I also came across this in the FAQ:
    (quote)
    Akai Pro's MPC Element driver software is compatible with Mac OS 10.6 and higher, and Windows 7. However, the MPC Element also includes a low power mode. When the MPC Element is in low power mode the device uses class-compliant MIDI drivers pre-installed in all modern Microsoft and Apple supported, Windows, Mac, and iOS operating systems. Simply put, if the MPC Element is in low power mode, it is a plug-and-play MIDI device. - See more at: http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpcele...
    (unquote)

    If your DAW doesn't include features for remapping/transforming MIDI events, there are also simple apps like Bome MIDI Translator that'll allow you to transform MIDI events into other events, or even send mouse and keyboard commands. ( http://www.bome.com/products/miditran... )

    In short....the Elements is simply a basic MIDI controller that sends note-on+velocity+note off MIDI events, with some special buttons/features that get enabled if you're using MPC Essentials (or have the hardware to unlock a full more feature packed MPC plugin). There also appears to be some "MPC Essentials specific" buttons that probably aren't going to do anything for third party hardware/software...UNLESS you find a way to learn whatever commands it sends (probably sysex messages) and translate them into something you can use.

    I'm fairly confident that you could at least use the MPC pads themselves with just about any kit you like (otherwise, why would they put MIDI ports on it and give you adapter cables?) If you have the drivers installed and unlocked, and happen to also be running any version of AKAI MPC Software in your DAW...it should continue to work with that software as it should.

    Essentially, you should have no problem mixing and matching other MIDI controller types and sizes in your rig. The only real question is, how useful will the Elements be without running Akai software? Since you seem to already have one to tinker with...try it and see what all it will do in a DAW (and/or in MIDI OX) without having MPC Essentials loaded.:)
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  • Hi everyone!

    The Element can be used with other software/devices, though it will require some mapping to get it line up right with other software. In Low Power mode (hold down Tap button while plugging in USB) you can use it with other DAW software as long as you'll be able to map out the pads and the transport in that DAW. Chances are the pads will not line up with their counterparts in software besides MPC or MPC Essentials without some adjustments.

    As Brian mentioned, you can try something like the Bome's Midi translator to change the midi message if you DAW is unable to map to controllers.

    You can use the Midi in/out to connect with other external devices or sound modules (use the MPC Port 1 in the software for the midi 5-pin input/output). The controls (knobs/faders) in MPC or Essentials are exclusive to the Studio and the Renaissance though, so there's not much other reason to connect anything other than an additional keyboard or external sound module. That includes the Midimix, which only has a USB port anyway, so it can't be connected directly to the Element.

    You can connect an MPD226 if you want some more control options in, say, Ableton, but you're much better just attaching this via USB than midi. Otherwise you would need an additional power supply for the 226 that I don't believe this is included. Either way you would have 32 available pads without changing banks as well as the banks of faders knobs and buttons which may be useful to you.

    Hope some of this is helpful! Happy to answer more questions if you have them!
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    If anyone needs for remapping :
    http://www.akaipro.com/kb/article/1493
    or bank A (sorted from pad 1 and up):
    C#1=37
    C1=36
    F#1=42
    A#4=82
    ----------
    E1=40
    D1=38
    A#1=46
    G#1=44
    ----------
    C2=48
    B1=47
    A1=45
    G1=43
    ----------
    C#2=49
    G2=55
    D#2=51
    F2=53
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  • Hi everyone,
    Does any kind soul have a good setup instruction for Akai Pro MPD226 with sonar pro. _information Setup please - Seems I'm missing something' left clueless'
    It works fine with my mpc studio software, I managed to get both my MPC controller pad and the mpc226 pad working with ezdrummer in the mpc studio software.
    - But when i use the 226 in sonar (with mpc software as plugin/vst on a midi track in sonar) Only the MPC works! and now not the mdp226. :-(
    ..... So In my quest - 'just now' I've discovered surface control and ACT -
    Guess I'll do some more reading/learning on this tonight..
    I think I'm getting closer: Thanks for any advice: I'll check back later this week.
    - I'm using windows 8.1/sonar pro./mpc software/mpc/mpd226/ezdrummer.
    - kind regards
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