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Midiverb 4 dual mono reverbs?

I can't seem to find the answer to this question anywhere in the manual.
Can you create or edit a program to have 2 reverbs in a dual-mono configuration (IE verb:verb)? I need to run 2 separate reverbs, one has to be an average room reverb while the other needs to be a big dark boomy reverb. Is this possible with the Midiverb 4?
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  • http://www.alesis.com/contentmgr/show...

    Grab this manual and look at the beggining of CHAPTER 3. It will show you everything you can do with the routing and effects. Let me know if your still stuck after looking at that.
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  • i have the same issue on this setup.
    The chapter 3 only tell overview of each effect and didnot
    tell step by step to config each channel.
    We really need is step by step instruction to set it up.
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  • Thanks J.
    But anh is right. It says it can be done but not how to get it done.
    Sorry it took me so long to reply...
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  • I have the same dilemma! The ref manual teases the reader by speaking of the 256 programmes, 32 configurations, and it lists the "effects". It says that some of these 32 configurations are dual mono, allowing a different effect to be used on each of the 2 separate mono channels, but it does not identify which configurations these are, leaving the user guessing which programme to copy and edit in order to exploit this capability. Absolutely NO examples or instructions for this are provided and I cannot find any reference documentation of relevance (is there any?). It would be helpful if one of the original programmers for this product could give us the essential information that is missing from the ref manual, please ? I am sure this would make many users out there very happy, even if sales of 2nd devices might be reduced!
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  • Hi all, the short answer is no. It's down to the processing capability of the MidiVerb4 - it's pretty old kit and we tend to forget the limitations of technology of its time. So it can do, say, a DELAY and a (simple) REVERB as dual mono, but not two reverbs. Basically you are limited to the combinations available in any of the 32 'CONFIGURATIONS' listed on pages 50-56 in the manual. Looks like you're already aware you're looking for the 'XXXX : YYYY' or 'XXXX + YYYY' combinations. In theory + denotes that stereo effects are summed together on the outputs (alesis calls this DOUBLE) and : denotes they are sent separately - DUAL MONO. In practice at least one of the + configurations seems to be acting in pure dual mono mode.

    In case it's useful this is what I did...

    Indended outcome:
    Use the MidiVerb4 as though it were two boxes - one a simple DELAY and the other a simple REVERB.

    Approach:
    Start with PRESET programme 122 - which has the configuration REALROOM+DELAY. (Configuration is shown in to right hand corner of the window in capitals.)
    STORE into an empty USER location (I used 111).

    Then auto level the input by pressing the top right two buttons together then playing the signal into the midiVerb4

    Finally edit to taste... my edits:
    - Change the name - hit STORE then use < and > (buttons C and D) to move the cursor under the letter you want to change and then use the scroll wheel to edit
    REAL ROOM edits:
    - Shorten Decay for a tighter reverb - I went for 3.99
    - LPF at just over 5kHz
    - Density 75%
    - Diff 20%
    DELAY edits:
    - Tap 300 ms - i.e. 3 in the hundreds, 0 in each othe tens & units (this thing really is archaic!)
    - Fdbk 20%
    - HiCut ~8kHz

    Result:
    Nice tight (if unsophisticated) reverb that will work for main vocal and a touch on solo instruments plus maybe acoustic.
    Subtle delay that will be used occasionally in slower acoustic / electric solo work.
    Oddly coming out independently in mono from Left and Right outputs - unexpected - the '+' in the configuration is supposed to designate DOUBLE - i.e. both effected signals are summed and output in stereo.

    How about:
    Would you be happy to mimic your dark boomy reverb with a delay? Essentially reverb is just loads of delays anyway. If you mess about with the parameters you could probably recreate the same sense with the REALROOM+DELAY configuration I'm using - e.g. set the tap time very low (to mimic reflections in the space you're thinking of), Fdbk high to generate lots of reflections, hiCut set quite low, e.g. 2-3kHz to emphasise the darker end of the sound.

    Hope it's useful! Phil.
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    Oh should have said - the last 32 PRESET programmes (from 96 to 127) go thorugh each of the 32 Configurations in step to make it easy for you to copy a programme with the Configuration you want to start from to a USER programme. For the avoidance of doubt you cannot start from scratch to build a Configuration, the only way is to start with one of the 32 abd edit that.

    Phil.
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  • Thanks Phil! That's a better reply than I was hoping for. Huge help!
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