Problem with DM10 hi hat mapping in Superior Drummer as a VST within Cubase 5

Running out of ideas....I've searched all kinds of forums and can NOT figure out how to map the hi hat of my DM10 to trigger Superior Drummer (running as a VST within Cubase 5). Also don't know how to get rid of the annoying splash that occurs about 50% of the time when I step on the hi hat pedal when I'm just playing the onboard module kits.
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  • Hello,

    I would like to help.

    You can create one MIDI track in Cubase for the DM10 input and assign a "drum map" to it. That means you'll assign a dedicated MIDI note (which is the standard MIDI output of your DM10 module) to one single line in the MIDI editor window for such a drum track - with names of the different instruments. For a more informative explanation on Drum Maps in Cubase, click on the link HERE.

    The next thing is to route this mapped MIDI track to an instrument track with SuperiorDrummer on it, as a MIDI input. Maybe some MIDI notes won't trigger the right sounds of the chosen SuperiorDrummer drum kit, but that could be solved just by customizing the MIDI note assignment in SuperiorDrummer itself.

    Here's a starter video help for setting up a drum map in Cubase 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_9hOm...

    Also, If you want to mix or master the different MIDI note inputs differently in Cubase, just use SuperiorDrummers mixer capability and re-route the different sounds to other Cubase audio tracks.
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  • Thanks for the quick response. One of the links in your response won't work though...... ("For a more informative explanation on Drum Maps in Cubase, click on the link HERE.")<-----That one.
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    • Yes.....what about the cymbal crash that I get intermittently when I step on the HH pedal? Apparently others have issues with this as well. Is there a way to get rid of it? I have that issue just using the kit by itself with the Alesis module onboard kits and headphones.
    • Hello,

      Sure, have you calibrated your HH pedal yet? To calibrate the hi-hat pedal:

      1. Connect the hi-hat pedal to the module but do not press it down.
      2. On the module, press EXT TRIG.
      3. Use the CURSOR UP / DOWN buttons to highlight the "Input" field at the top of the screen then use the VALUE UP / DOWN buttons or VALUE DIAL to select "HiHat."
      4. Press CAL (F1).
      5. With the hi-hat pedal completely raised ("open"), press OPEN (F1) and wait for a message saying the process is complete.
      6. With the hi-hat pedal completely pressed ("closed"), press CLOS (F2) and wait for a message saying the process is complete.
      7. If you want to fine-tune how the module detects your pedal's "open" and "closed" positions, press TRIM (F3). Use the CURSOR UP / DOWN buttons to select "Open" or "Closed" and use the VALUE UP / DOWN buttons or VALUE 8. DIAL to adjust the setting. (Tip: Increasing the "Closed" value makes it easier to close the hi-hat or "choke" it.)
      8. If you want to adjust the response curve of the pedal, press CURV (F4). Use the VALUE UP / DOWN buttons or VALUE DIAL to select the curve that best suits your playing style. (Tip: We recommend using LINEAR, LOG1 or LOG2 for conventional hi-hat performance.)
      9. When you have adjusted the hi-hat settings to your preference, press EXIT to exit the calibration page (or press DRUM KIT to return to the main screen).
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  • I figured out how to get rid of the cymbal crash. I didn't realize that it's an actual trigger that's supposed to be there for when you want to step on the pedal quickly for an open hi hat clap. When I plugged into superior drummer, it routed to a crash so I just had to correct that.

    What I can NOT figure out is how to get the hi hat to behave "open" when the pedal is up and "closed" when the pedal is down. I've went into superior drummer and clicked "learn" to map the hi hit by choosing the "open" aritculation, clicking learn and striking the hi hat so I get the sound of an open hat when the pedal is up. So far so good....then going in and chosing a closed articulation, stepping on the hi hat pedal and THEN clicking learn and striking the hi hat which then gives me a closed sound when I strike the hi hat, but the problem is, it just stays closed even when I take my foot off the pedal. So....I can either get all open, or all closed, but not both. I should note that when I get the open hi hat, it will "close" when I step on the pedal and terminate the open sound like it should, but then when I strike it, with the pedal still down, it sounds open again. So getting closer, but not quite there.......
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  • In talking to the folks at ToonTrack, they are under the impression that the midi data is not reaching the host (Superior Drummer) correctly and that I need to insure that the CC data is turned on with in the Alesis module. How do I do that? Is that just within the Trigger function of the module for the hat specifically or is there a global setting? I've copied their response below so you can see what I'm refering to:

    HI Michael,

    Our programmers have reported that it it sounds like the CC data is not reaching the host/VST (Superior 2)

    The programmers believe there is a control in the DM10 module that sets whether CC4(1) is transmitted out via MIDI.

    Please ensure that this control is active.

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    • Hello,

      It automatically send MIDI data. Here's a list of triggers that the DM10 uses via MIDI. This should help you out.



      Refer to this guide that we made for Ableton on how to connect and setup your DM10 to your DAW. I believe in your software you'll need to have it MIDI learn your trigger.

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  • I just found this in another Alesis community thread.

    "Yes, it is the same module. You will be able to change the midi note the pad sends except for the hi-hat and ride edge cymbal zones.

    Many DM users have successfully mapped to these popular VSTi."

    If I can't change the notes for the hi-hat, this suggestion won't work.
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    HEY GUYS I FOUND THE ISSUE!!!

    Ok go to your DM10 module and press UTILITY

    Then F3 for Trigger

    Change the settings to this

    HiHat:Note Only
    HHSplash: Not Sent
    CYM Choke: Sent

    Now go to your Superior Drummer and re-learn the triggers.

    Worked for me.
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  • Thanks, man! How did you "learn" the cymbal choke trigger so that it would give you the cymbal choke effect in superior drummer when you played it on the DM10?
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  • Actually didn't need to "Learn" at all, the hihats basically worked once i had changed the above settings.

    Sidenote: Make sure the controller is set to Default and not E-drums.
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