Credits have become useless

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The credits section is no longer useful to me. It seems like most credits are arbitrary. I used to be able to see who played what instrument and who sang at the very least. Now almost everyone is listed as a Composer or Main Artist. It's not even clear to me if everyone is listed! I now seem to have no clue as to who contributes and how they contributed any longer.
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Peter Durso

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Chrysta Cherrie

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Hi Peter,
There have been no notable changes to how our data provider enters album data, a process most simply described by explaining they enter whatever credits are provided in the packaging or other album notes exactly as they're presented (plus some organizational credits main artist). However, due to our data provider's need to prioritize, some titles do not get complete entry; perhaps the albums you're interested in fall into that pool. If you would provide some examples I'll forward them to our data provider.

Thanks.
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Peter Durso

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Hi,
Thanks for the fast reply..

Your site used to be the kind of site I referenced as a completist and information junkie. To be honest I have not used the site in a few years since I have found that Wikipedia in many cases is just as useful. Lately I started looking at your site because I remember being able to access the information in a way that was more focused and organized in an interesting and useful way. Again, I remember this level of usefulness from prior to the contemporary "ROVI" site.

Here is an example of a credit list that I find less than useful. Musicians are simply listed as "primary artist" and composers "litter" the list. It is not important for me to see the aggregate composers in the main credit listing for an album. This information is more useful by orders of magnitude when they are included in the data for individual song listings. Here they just become part of the "surface noise".

Actually I also remember the data provided for individual tracks was more detailed in the past.

Here is the link on your site:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-liv...

Here is the Wikipedia page for the same album:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Live...

I see that Jack Bruce is mentioned in your listing - not Wikipedia, BUT your listing does NOT show Mike Bloomfield (!) in this album credit list. Discrepancies will always be present but I am baffled by the Mike Bloomfield issue.

This is the entry that provoked my post yesterday. There have been others that have made me question the advisability of coming back to AMG.

Here is a much more detailed list of credits from your site. It contains a lot of detail with regard to the musicians involved AND this is an example of the composers being "dumped" en masse onto the summary credit page. This is just superfluous and annoying (to moi):

http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at...

As I have said, in the (distant) past I found AMG to be an invaluable tool for me as an information junkie. I hope this can happen again.

Thanks again for the quick reply.

Pete D.
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Peter, both "Michael Bloomfield" and "Mike Bloomfield" are listed by AMG in the album's credits. See https://getsatisfaction.com/allmusic/...
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Peter Durso

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I don't know where I got that "missing Mike Bloomfield" part of my post. I looked at multiple Mike Bloomfield albums that day. That doesn't help you at all, I know. My bad.

My complaint/concern still stands however. The presentation of credits is more useful IMHO the way it's presented on the Wikipedia entry for the same album.

The data is out there and it's a shame that you don't present the credits in a way that is clearer and more useful for research of people's contributions.

I used the books your company issued "Allmusic guide to Jazz" for instance and the earlier iterations of your web site for more detailed entertainment and information junkiness. I miss that.
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Peter Durso

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I don't know where I got that "missing Mike Bloomfield" part of my post. I looked at multiple Mike Bloomfield albums that day. That doesn't help you at all, I know. My bad.

My complaint/concern still stands however. The presentation of credits is more useful IMHO the way it's presented on the Wikipedia entry for the same album.

The data is out there and it's a shame that you don't present the credits in a way that is clearer and more useful for research of people's contributions.

I used the books your company issued "Allmusic guide to Jazz" for instance and the earlier iterations of your web site for more detailed entertainment and information junkiness. I miss that.