Is this the full allmusic database?

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Is the beta using a subset of the allmusic database?

Looking at Zappa's "Main Albums" it is significantly reduced compared to the classic site (64 versus 77 to my reckoning).
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Specifically his discography on beta starts with "Lumpy Gravy" (1968) but the biography mentions "Freak Out!" three times as his first album and even hyperlinks that to the album page for "Freak Out!". Original site has "Freak Out!" and "Absolutely Free" listed before "Lumpy Gravy".
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This is a pretty lousy answer but it is because in our new data delivery system we have "Freak Out!" listed as being a Mothers of Invention album so it appears on their page but not on Frank Zappa's page.

http://beta.allmusic.com/artist/the-m...

This is something that we need to address.

Thanks.
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Zac, the album "Freak Out!" is correctly listed ONLY under the discography of The Mothers of Invention, who is billed as its primary performer (not as a backing credit or alias) and Frank Zappa is a band member.
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rootsmusic, that sounds like a good explanation and I'll defer to your interpretation. I'm not an expert on Mr Zappa's works and I was originally comparing old site vs. beta for data discrepancies (and assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that the old site was correct). Apologies.
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Ah well now, I don't entirely agree (with rootsmusic) - as hinted at in my reply below.

Granted it's a difficult & sometimes subjective choice to make but I'd prefer to see all albums, even when notionally issued under a different band name, for an artist. This especially makes sense for someone like Zappa who was the overriding personality and creative source in the MoI.

Zac, maybe this is something you can consider under the albums listings, highlighting when an album was issued under a different band name?
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Graham Chapman

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What if the albums like "Freak Out!" appeared on the MAIN ALBUMS discography tab for The Mothers of Invention and on the OTHERS discography tab for Frank Zappa. Would that work in this case? (Sorry Zac, I'm assuming this can be done within the constraints of the database.)
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No, that's a good answer, because it's honest :)

I imagine this to be a fairly common situation occuring for a number of artists involved in multiple groups (John Zorn, Makoto Kawabata, Daevid Allen and all those sorts). This has always been a bit of an issue with allmusic at times.
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I second that view Gary.
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2 Zappa albums: Roxy and Elsewhere and Playground Psychotics don't appear in the Frank Zappa discography list. They only show in the Zappa & Mothers list.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Zappa correction.