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Why was this release at http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/tim-buckley-mr0003564112 blocked with the explanation: "Due to label restrictions, we are no longer permitted to display this information on AllMusic"?  I sure hope that Rhino Records isn't restricting Allmusic like Bryan.
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Some albums that are distributed by non-North American labels have requested that we no longer display the details of their specific releases. This particular release must have some element of non-North American information associated with it in our data provider's database and therefore has been restricted from display.  

Obviously I wish this was not the case, but this is what certain labels have insisted upon.
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How about a list somewhere of the labels blocking access? I think a boycott is in order, at the very least.

I'm not sure I understand this being a case of just "certain labels", though. Try a search on “Cerisier Rose Et Pommier Blanc” by Andre Claveau (it's the original version of "Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White", the top record of 1955). There are at least 9 or 10 results returned for that combination and all but one are blocked. Did ALL those labels suddenly get together and request they not be displayed, or is there a larger principle at work here?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled "We're not allowed to display this result" errors.

What is it with 30 to 70% of search results returning a "We're not allowed to display this" message? Am I to believe record companies don't WANT people to know what an album contains? Or that they care sixty years after the fact?

I wonder if this is in any way related to another problem I've been having lately with information being blocked. After I noticed that new releases by several favorite Japanese artists weren't showing up on the CDJapan website, they informed me that several labels don't want Americans to even know of the existence of their products... Huh? A retailer that wants to hide its goods from someone who might actually wish to buy them?

No wonder the music industry is dying.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Due to label restrictions, we are no longer permitted to display this information....

Hi, I've been happily using this truly excellent site for years (thank you, by the way!).

But I've been getting pretty frustrated lately with this recent development (the past few weeks): All too often lately, I do a search for a title, then when it comes up among the available options, I click on that button, but then it takes me to a page which says: "Due to label restrictions, we are no longer permitted to display this information on AllMusic."

It really does not make any sense at all, since the search results generally show an album cover image along with the artist & title, indicating this release is in fact in your database.

Also, this phenomenon is not limited to one-off titles (such as various artists compilations), but also includes one title from an artist, when all other titles by that artist display without problems.

Weird, right?

Note: I am using a Mac and have tried to access the same titles on three different (current) browsers (Firefox, Safari and Google Chrome), with the same results.

Here is your link to the latest title which gave me these results:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/declaration-of-fuzz-mw0001223759

Thank you for anything you can do to ameliorate or at least explain this problem,
Scot
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Now That's What I Call Music 91's album link is broken.

Now That's What I Call Music 91's album link is broken and hovering over the release doesn't reveal any details:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/now-thats-what-i-call-music%21-91-mw0002854120
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why are some artists not available on Allmusic.

Dear Allmusic folks:

Quick question: I tried to look up the Portuguese singer-songwriter Aline Frazão and got the message "Due to label restrictions, we are no longer permitted to display this information on AllMusic." I'm wondering how labels can restrict a site like Allmusic from presenting information. That seems extreme.

I knew about the issues with Allmusic and Bryan Adams, although I don't understand how he can do that, either. Could you enlighten those of us who use Allmusic as a valuable resource. It's a disturbing trend that seems to be inconsistent with (at least US) laws about the exchange and distribution of information. Is Allmusic somehow not considered as a source of news information, as, say, Rolling Stone would be? Is this a new issue unique to the international nature of information on the web? There seems to be a story in this -- and perhaps it's already been written.

Thanks,

Mark Kemp
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This has gotten really bad, it seems like at this point AllMusic has more holes than content. The catalogue is disintegrating rapidly, which has essentially already made it useless for being used as a music encyclopedia.

This is AMG's business, how are they not more worried or communicative about this? I was considering purchasing a Pro subscription just a few weeks ago. But who would pay for an encyclopedia where masses of articles can just disappear without notice because someone wanted them to? This is really bad, and this could very well spend the end of AllMusic as a relevant resource. I, for one, have already had to remove it from my main research sources as I find information missing simply too often now – it doesn't usually pay off to look for it anymore.

I sort of feel like advising AMG to hire better lawyers. There's no way that suppressing information like this can ever be legally justified in any way. You're a database collecting publicly available information about figures of public interest and their publicly released, commercially available work. There is simply no way that anyone could request takedown of such content, let alone the editorial content that belongs to AMG or Rovi. Cover scans, artist photos, audio samples – maybe. But release facts and critical reviews? Not in any first-world country I know of.

AMG, you are clearly in the legal right here, to display this information even against the labels' wishes. Remove media content, if you have to, but don't self-destruct by giving in to corporate bullying.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Error on our release?.

Hi, I'm part of the duo Songwriterz, and tried seaching for our new album on your site...
But I get this message "Due to label restrictions, we are no longer permitted to display this information on AllMusic." when I click on the album...
http://www.allmusic.com/album/unrequited-love-mw0002203293

But we are not releasing through a label, it is completely self released, so we are the label our selves, and have never made any restrictions on our music or info about it...

So why is the info not viewable?

best
Michael
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The only way to prevent this one label's music from appearing on AllMusic is for our data provider to not provide us access to all non-North American music in their database. 

They do not have a method of blocking just one label from shipping information to their customers. They can only stop offering us the package that has this label's albums (and tens of thousands of other albums) in it.

Despite the fact that you may not have specifically put any regional restrictions on your music, (I'm guessing) since you are from Denmark, your album has been marked as being primarily EU-distributed.

Really honestly, this is what a section of our contract with our data provider looks like:



We only have access to the information that is in the NA (North American) package.

Your album information must fall in either the unchecked box that says EU or the un-checked box that says UK. Therefore we do not have the information to display.

It is a flawed system, but we are only able to display the information that is made available to us by the company we are licensing data from.

I suppose the best (although clunky) solution would be to write to our data provider (you can reach them at content.music@rovicorp.com) and tell them that you would like your album to be marked as North American distribution. This might remove the restriction and cause the album to flow though into the NA data package and be displayed on AllMusic.
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It seems that this is really an issue with how Rovi, the data provider, manages (or licenses) their databases.

In your case that would mean: even though a label filing such a complaint with Rovi might not have anything to do with your releases specifically, it affects a large part of the other entries in the same database, so Rovi's response was to just block everything that is in the same non-NA database altogether.

I doubt that they would do this if they had a simple and reliable way to just hide the information that actually is about releases of said label, and not touch the rest. So I assume that they don't, and that their data, or the database scheme behind it, makes it impossible for them to be 100% sure that they are hiding everything that they're supposed to hide. So, to err on the side of non-liability, they take the "safe" way of just shutting down the entire database.

It's also possible that some of that blame could go up right back to the label involved. You'd think that these global, multi-billion-dollar conglomerates had some system and order with regards to their properties and rights. But every experience I've ever had with them, or heard about, showed that this couldn't be further from the truth. They're messies, who basically have no clue what they're doing and have been winging it for many decades. Their lawyers are clueless, no business unit knows what the other is doing, and nobody is talking to each other. And that's before you bring in the fact that these companies usually have dozens of national and regional subsidiaries, each of them again being their own kingdom with no idea what they're doing themselves, let alone are in any way coordinated with the others. No label as big as this will even be able to produce a reliable list of the sublabels and works they own, they simply don't know.

Just to restate, I don't think the label's claim has any legal ground to stand on, and would likely be destroyed in any court case. Encyclopedias and databases are covered by law, they can't legally be prevented from collecting and making use of publicly available information. It seems a strange business decision from a company like Rovi, whose income depends on licensing metadata, to remove from the market what must be a sizable portion of their product, because of one spurious claim.
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Daniel,
if we ever meet I'm buying you a beer (or the beverage of your choosing).
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Zac, you just replied while I was writing my post =) but that's more or less what I expected. It's mainly the fault of Rovi's API or licensing then, for not offering adequate granularity. They should really fix their data scheme, I think it would be in their own best interest.

Thanks for all the clearing up! Sounds good about the beer, I'll extend the same offer should you ever pass through Switzerland! :)
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So Universal is controlling the restrictions on everyones music... Great...
I will try to contact Rovi...