More Album listing options

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Would it be possible to expand the tabs for listing albums? Now, with "Main albums" and "Compilations" separated, you might miss the compilations with new material just because you don't look.

My suggestion is the following tabs:
[All albums] [Studio] [Compilations] [Live] [Singels & EPs] [DVD & Videos] [Others]

Or, since this is a feature I know I'd look for only now and then, it could be a pull-down menu after [Other], such as [Refined listing]

The main point is to get compilations, live and studio listed in [Main/all/official albums]

Another way is to list everything, and have buttons for filtering out sub-items, like (show DVD) (show singles) (show live) etc.
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Posted 7 years ago

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I've been also longing for this feature for years: to be able to distinguish between studio albums, live albums, soundtrack albums. At the mo they all appear undifferentiated on the Main Albums tab.

This could be realized by showing an "Album Type" icon next to each album on the Main Albums tab, or by one of thescratchdoc's suggestion above (all boil down to some form of filtering on the Album Type info).

By the way the beta site looks fantastic, and AllMusic data is great as ever, been using it for years, thanks AllMusic!
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We'll try to think about some of these different ways to flag the albums and see if we can come up with a clear way to solve this better.
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Great to hear! I've been using amg almost daily since the start and can't live without it!

Look forward to being able to filter all live compilation albums within one genre ;-)

With so many album types as 14geronimo and myself mentioned, plus many more, a button-style approach is probably better than tabs (like http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?k... ... didn't remember any English sites with the feature on top of my head).

And, the new site really looks fantastic! A much better experience already!
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I wish you would have a separate discography tab for live albums instead of lumping them in with main albums

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Separate live albums from main albums.
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It was easy enough to get a list of "compilation" albums for a particular artist but... looking at the album details, there is no reference to being a "compilation" as there was in the previous AMG layout. Need to differeniate between compilation and non-compilation albums while looking at the details of that album. Otherwise, I like the new layout.

Thanks.
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Quick question here which I've decided to file under "Idea" instead of "Problem", mostly because this is something that was directly available on the old site and, at least I *think*, not available on the new site. And while I first figured this to be a Problem, I wanted to suggest an Idea that would not just bring it back, but improve on the old site.

When perusing an artist's discography, I like to know whether an album is a "real" studio release, as opposed to a live album. On the old site, while this wasn't apparent in the discography listing, one could at least click on the album, and to the left of the review and track listing there was something akin to "Album type: Live". There were a few type options --- live, compilation, EP, etc. It was a mild inconvenience to have to click into the album details to find this out, but at least it was there.

The suggestion for the new site: put the album type in the Discography, to the right of the album title and to the left of what should be the rightmost column (Label). This would be huge because it would allow a person to easily scan the list of album titles, and see which ones were studio, live, etc. In fact, I don't recall the old site even listing "Studio" as a type -- I believe it was assumed to be studio if nothing was mentioned, and then explicit references were made to Live albums. (Compilations and EPs had their own tabs).

Of course, if the "live" information is here on the new site, please let me know. I've scoured both the discography page and the Album Details page, and simply not finding it. Not being able to ascertain whether an album is studio or live is making it quite difficult for me to tell if I have every studio album an artist released (I don't tend to focus very much on live albums or hit packages, unless it's an explicitly live-oriented band such as the Grateful Dead).

Regards,
Brian

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Determining whether an album is Studio or Live?.
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Yep.
We are currently not receiving the flags for "Live" in our Album calls.

We're working on correcting that so at least we can get the flags displayed on the album page.
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The problem here is that the line between a studio album and a live album often gets blurred. Take Frank Zappa's 1979 album Sheik Yerbouti, for instance. The majority of the tracks on the album were recorded live, and then subsequently re-cut and overdubbed heavily in the studio. Would you call this a "Studio" or "Live" album? Also consider John Coltrane's 1963 record Live at Birdland, the first three tracks of which were recorded live, and the rest in the studio. There are innumerable examples one could name with these kinds of ambiguities. For me, AllMusic's current album separation format makes the most sense.

I will say that I did like having the "Discography" section of an artist's entry display on its own page, as it did on the old site. I notice that there is currently a "Jump to Discography" link at the top of each artist entry's page, which is nice, but I'd like to see it displayed on its own page. Just a thought.

Thanks for reading.
David
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Re David:
Most artists (even Zappa in this case) distinguish between live and studio albums, so I don't believe that would be a problem. The same can be said for compilations, where you sometimes find new songs or versions.

For the visitor wanting to learn about a band, it's probably safe to assume that having divided the catalogue into studio, live and compilation is fine, with the reservation that some songs or even albums fall into a grey zone. (Which is imminent with the new media also - e.g. Björks ipod-album or David Byrne's ppt-thingy.)

Otherwise, everything would just end up in one long hard-to-digest list.
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RE: David

I wouldn't venture to say that the line between studio and live often gets blurred, but it certainly has happened, and internally, editors do distinguish between a "studio" album, a live album, and an album with a mixture of both.

So, if this made enough sense to display (and that's by no means a given), it would be easy to simply "turn on" this feature. FWIW: The other live/studio type that we tag is for field recordings.
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John, tagging track types in track listings would make more sense because many albums include a mixture of track types. See idea at https://getsatisfaction.com/allmusic/...
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Hi Rootsmusic,
We hope to be able to enable both album-level flags (like "Live") and track level flags (like "[Live]" and "[Bonus Track]" and "[Remix]").

We have requests in with our data delivery team and we'll keep you updated when they become available to us.

Thanks as always.
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Generally speaking, a studio release is meant to convey the idea that the artist has released a new album of new material -- in Zappa's case, Sheik Yerbouti is most unquestionably a proper studio release despite all the live cuts on it. In fact, even something like Cowboy Junkies' The Trinity Session, which was recorded entirely live in a church, is still a proper studio release because it contains new material and/or reworkings of old songs. In that sense, Beck's Guerolito is a proper studio release, despite the fact that it is reworkings of Guero.

A Live album, on the other hand, is pretty much when a band releases tapes from a concert or series of concerts, where all they're doing is playing live versions of previously-released songs (despite the possible presence of one or two never-before-played songs).

The other scenario is when an artist opts to basically never record in the studio, and thus releases all new material via recordings of live concerts. In that case, if it's an artist releasing all-new material, it's a proper (ie, 'studio') release, not a live album. A bit incongruous, I know, but it helps if one thinks of "studio release" as "proper release", as the latter is probably more accurate. Sheik Yerbouti is unquestionably a proper (ie, studio) release.... whereas something like the Stones' Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out is unquestionably a Live album (and a great one at that).
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I see your point, supra, but just to play devil's advocate..where do you classify Nirvana's Unplugged in New York?
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Display information about whether an album is a LIVE performance.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
What happened to "Live" designation?.