NEED IMPROVED SEARCH!!

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You still need to improve your search engine! When I type "One Line Drawing" I get one paltry return, and no alternatives. When I type "Onelinedrawing" I get what I'm looking for. You need to realize that music syntax, especially album titles and artists' names do not follow ordinary rules of grammar and syntax, and your search engine should anticipate that.
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Mike Gutierres

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Thanks for the example Mike.
You're right, our search mechanism should catch that.

I see that if I do a full search (meaning typing in One Line Drawing, hit enter and then filter on artist results), it does come back (last in the list):



http://www.allmusic.com/search/artist...

...but I would expect it to come back higher in the overall list.

I'll pass this feedback on to our Search team.
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Thanks for the VERY quick reply! Shows you guys are on your game....very impressive!

Back to my point, and for the techie guys: "One Line Drawing" should show "Onelinedrawing" at the top of the search results, as it is an exact match, except for the spaces.

Looking forward to using the updated search engine.

Mike
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Just FYI we've been working on an improved search and both One Line Drawing and Onelinedrawing appear under this search: http://www.allmusic.com/searchtest/all/One%20Line%20Drawing

More info can be found here: http://www.allmusic.com/blog/post/allmusic-search-beta
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Why are we tiptoe-ing around the fact that the original search returned the artist that the poster was looking for, the error being that his albums had been filed under two different names? If the first had not existed, would the second have been returned instead?

And should the poster expect the proper results when they knowingly type in the wrong name?

Actually, I think the proper results should be returned when a name is misspelled, but how do you deal with a search engine that is

A) Too literal. Doesn't offer the correct name if the input is misspelled.
B) Not literal enough. Returns Berlin Symphony Orchestra before Berlin.

Good luck with that one, pally.
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I think that when Mike originally said "When I type "One Line Drawing" I get one paltry return, and no alternatives" he may have been referring to the Typeahead search:



It is possible that the original Corrupted Image Records album we have listed under One Line Drawing is the same artist as onelinedrawing. It looks like we have very sparse catalog data for that album so it is possible a mistake was made (either by the label distributing the catalog or by the person who did the data entry 14 years ago when the album came out).
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I had three paragraphs about why I thought Mike's expectations were unreasonable, but I don't wish to attack a fellow reader. It suffices to say that you've got twelve spaces in that drop down bar, three of them for artists. To code the search box in a way that could vaguely associate One Line Drawing with Onelinedrawing would virtually assure that the correct answer would never appear within those three lines. The phrase "it is an exact match, except for the spaces" is misguided.

Your search engines ability to work with inexact names is often frustrates me. I made a long post about it in another thread. We need to make broader searches that can translate misspellings and match up a performer's name in a longer string. We can't expect it to read our mind and pop up the answer in the drop-down. In my opinion, by providing the answer within the Artist section, the search performed admirably in this case.

As to your second point, they are the same artist. Compare song titles on 1999's eponymous album and Sketchy EP #2 from 2000. Once again, I had a paragraph taking "the music people" to task for not realizing this. I had pieced it together within minutes, having never heard of the performer before I read the thread. But that would be wrong. You're busy answering questions, fact-checking albums is not part of the job description at the moment.

However, it's this lack of creative thinking that leaves so many errors in your database and generates empty records like Fandango. AMG won't make the jump because they only work from information given by the label or liner notes.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Bring back old search features please.


Please bring back the functionality that AllMusic had a few years ago before it was re-designed. I used to be able to look up a songwriter, for example, and see all of the songs he'd written and who recorded them. I could sort that list by title, by artist, by year, etc.

The new way search results come back on AllMusic is frustratingly difficult to use, making it almost impossible to find the info I'm looking for.

Thanks!