Search for exact match.

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Need the ability to limit searches to exact matches. I wanted to search for an album titled "Here" but the engine returned over 5000 albums with "Here" anywhere in the title.

Another example, I tried to search for the album "1+1" the search engine wouldn't even accept the string as entered.

Speaking of lists, you really need the option to return old style lists. The 5000 plus items returned for "Here" ten item per page with no option to sort by artist or title or label, this does not work.
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George, see problem about no sorting option for search results at https://getsatisfaction.com/allmusic/...
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Yes, a problem with sorting does exist, but the main topic is searching for an exact match. Following the link above Zac Johnson's response pointed out how a AMG could help with a search for an album title of "Gypsy" but it really couldn't because it returned results for any album with "Gypsy" in the title.

We really need to be able to limit the search, e.g. put Gypsy in quotes, "Gypsy" retunrs only albums titled Gypsy. And "Gypsy Rose" should only return albums with that title.

Try entering "Gypsy Rose" quoted or not and look at the album results. The real corker is the album "Prey" by "Gypsy Rose" is part of the list.
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Hi George,
Hopefully some of the info in this thread helps explain some of our logic.

If you search for "Gypsy Rose" and filter the search results on Albums you'll find the album by Prey as the 7th result.
http://www.allmusic.com/search/albums...

additionally if you do a search for "Gypsy Prey" it returns that album as the first result:

http://www.allmusic.com/search/all/gy...
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Some artists and albums are now impossible to search for. This as your search does not respect double quotes. There was a group in 1970-71 called The Albert. They put out two self titled albums. If I search with "The Albert" with the quotes I get thousands of hits for both the artist and album title. They are alphabetical It would be impossible to scroll down to where "The" starts. To sum it up, it is now impossible to find this group.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Search Problem.
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I see these have been merged. While there are related, they are not the same problem. I'm asking for a string search within the artist and title fields. It now only does a word search. The OP in this thread is requesting an exact search on the entire artist and title fields.
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Hi Don,
What you are seeing is a result of AllMusic's search doing a couple of things: Purposefully removing leading articles in the search query and not including quotes around search terms.

This allows us to do a number of things that help *most* users' searches:

1. By ignoring leading articles, we can return helpful search results for The Beatles and Beatles (since we see users enter the search both ways). The same thing works for bands like "A Perfect Circle" (with or without the "A") or song titles like "The Long and Winding Road."

2. Many song titles are listed surrounded by quotes, and even some artist names have quotes as part of the name (like Freddie "Boom-Boom" Cannon). By allowing all searches to include quotes to indicate exact match it can cause issues with finding artists and song titles like these.

If I look for the string "the albert" (with or without quotes) and then filter on the Artist results, I do see a band called "The Albert" (after I scroll past the other more well-known Alberts ...Albert Hammond, Albert Lee, etc)



Additionally, we do try to treat our auto-complete searches as exact text string matches. You'll notice if you type The Albert into the search box, the auto-complete box shows this band as the 3rd artist result:



Search is an area we're always interested in improving, but at least you can hopefully see some of the logic we've implemented.
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We've been actively working on our search engine and a beta version can be found here: http://www.allmusic.com/blog/post/allmusic-search-beta
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Okay. I thought I would again try to find the group The Albert. Entering The Albert in the new search box does not give me The Albert as one of the three artist suggestions. I pressed enter. I got 1000+ results for each category. I selected artist. One of The Alberts appears with the genre R&B. Not the one I am looking for. As there are 1000+ artists returned it still leaves me cold.

I went back to the current search. Yes, it does show The Albert as an artist suggestion, but it is that R&B The Albert and not the one with the genre: Jazz / Horn / Psychedelic Rock that I am looking for.

I am generally looking for past artists. The search is rigged to return more current artists.
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Hi Don, 
Thanks for the response.

Have you found The Albert (Jazz / Horn / Psychedelic Rock) in our database anywhere? Can you provide an album title by them?
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They had two albums in 1970 and 1971. Both were self-titled. I tried searching on some song titles. Again lots and lots of hits. Maybe not in your database. Here is a page on one of their albums:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110821065928/http://www.redtelephone66.com/2011/05/the-albert-the-alber...
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Many of our users have asked for more exact results in search and we've recently rolled out some functionality that enables exact string matches on AllMusic.

By putting your word or string in quotes, we try to find the exact match within search results.

More detail here: https://getsatisfaction.com/allmedianetwork/topics/exact-match-in-search-results