Top Artists / Albums / Songs

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I've found the lists associated with genre and sub-genre browsing very useful over the years. When exploring these sections on the beta site, I find that the information contained in these lists is drastically different than on the current site, and is not in the tiered format, which was very useful.

It would be great if the information contained in the current lists could be preserved in the new site (which looks great).

Thanks you.
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Sebastian

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Yes, that characteristic was very defining and now it's sadly lost
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rootsmusic

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Zac, this can be merged with the problem at https://getsatisfaction.com/allmusic/...
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The lists as they exist on the old site were difficult to maintain as part of the usual workload from our editorial team so the new method is deriving this information via a combination of editorial oversight and commonly known artists, albums and songs based on AllMusic page views and a number of other sources.

That said, it is still a work in progress and we are working on refining the results. Many areas are still not as good as we had on the old site, but others are more complete. If you look at the Top albums for Rap on the current AllMusic we only list 3 albums: http://www.allmusic.com/explore/genre... but the new site has several pages of good selections: http://beta.allmusic.com/genre/rap-ma...

So stick with it and we'll keep working on improving the lists.

Thanks.
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Hi Zac,

Thanks for your reply.

You are right that none of the top-level genre album lists are very complete. To my recollection however, that is a relatively recent issue. Up until a couple of years ago, those lists were very robust.
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The tiered lists were invaluable in researching music and the main reason i would visit your site
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I really enjoy the lists of top tracks and artists, with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ranking systems that were available when searching by genre. These lists seem to be unavailable in the new format. Is there any way of accessing them?

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Top Artists and Songs.
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Hi. The feature that really appeals to me about AllMusic is that I can click on a major genre category like "Jazz" and find a full list of top artists to browse through. I'm not seeing that in the beta so far. I can get something like that by clicking on various subgenres, but of course that only presents a limited picture, and the artist lists under the subgenres don't seem to be comprehensive either. Hope this feature of the old site makes it into the beta version.....

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Missing the Full Lists of Top Artists.
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Hi Digger,
We do still have this information available on the new site (using a bit of different logic):

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Yeah, I did try that out. It returned a list of 48 jazz artists, as opposed to the 17 pages of densely packed information that I get when I "click here for a full list of top artists" on the old site. An of course the same applies to the 14 pages of pop/rock, the five pages of R&B, the four pages of blues, and so on. If there are in fact only two of you guys maintaining this site, I can understand how daunting it must be to try and keep all of this info up to date. But still, there it is in all of its encyclopedic glory, and it would be a shame to lose it all. Even if you can't continue to maintain the whole thing in toto, just provide us a link to this fine old database so that it's not lost entirely.
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That's a good idea, keep the link to the old database, please!! The new top artist list sucks in most of the non commercial genres. Sure rap would be better, but try girl groups and cry. It can't be so difficult, as The Ad Libs are tagged as Girl Groups, to appears in the Girl Groups Artist list!!??!!
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I agree.Though since they ruined allmovie.com they seem to have no problem ruining great databases.
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Toni Hills

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I see NOTHING has changed in the past year. Still big problems for people using this site. But who cares not the guys that has wrecked this site.
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It would also be helpful if, after asking for the information in list format and then clicking on a specific album, I could just hit the back-page button and go back to the list, rather than it returning me to the page with all the pictures of albums.
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I can't help wondering what's the point of a list of top Pop/Rock artists that doesn't include the Beatles!
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Though I am very disappointed with the design choices, I will continue to use the site as long as no content or features are lost. And by the way, what makes an album "significant"?

DON'T TURN THIS SITE INTO A HORRIBLE MISTAKE LIKE ALLMOVIE.COM, PLEASE!
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I'm actually enjoying the new design... but I have to agree with the point Phil made about the Beatles. When I click onto the significant artists for Jazz >> Hard Bop, and names like Clifford Brown, Horace Silver, and Hank Mobley are absent, it damages the credibility of the new site.
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Same thing with Rockabilly or Garage genre.... Where are the great compilations who was listed in Top Albums on the old site ???!!!
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Hi, I too used to love the tiered lists. The new Outlaw Country list of tracks seems to think that a lot of Willie Nelson & a couple of Johnny Cash tracks is all the outlaws you need (forget Kris Kristofferson, Waylon Jennings etc, you don't need them).
Similarly the Pub Rock list is basically Elvis Costello & Nick Lowe (no Dr Feelgood, Bees Make Honey, Ducks Deluxe, Brinsley Schwartz etc).

These new lists are in no way representative of the genres. I understand the old ones were hard to maintain but the new ones are pretty much pointless so far. I'd rather have out of date but varied lists than the current waste of (cyber)space.
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The list of Top Albums by genre is no longer the same, eg for rockabilly and garage, some very interesting compilations have disappeared, and ranking (1st, 2nd, 3rd) no longer exists ...

These rankings and the presence of these compilations was really a great feature and very interesting information on the genre concerned.

Thank you in advance.
Bruno

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Top Albums by Genre.
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Why when I open for ex. "Ambient" genre tab I see only Brian Eno albums. I don't think he is the most authoritative musician. The same situation is in all other genres - Bob Dylan, Beatles, U2, Daft Punk, The Beach Boys, Moby. I'am really sick of all this junk, people. I believe that you will change lists with significant music and put more significant musicians in it. Thanks for Your time and consideration.

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Change lists with significant music!.
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When I open the Ambient</> tab, I see 72 albums. I recognize many of them as Brian Eno albums, but the majority are albums that I do not recognize. It would be excellent if I saw the artist's name for all of the others so that I didn't have to click on each album title to get a rough idea of who qualified for the genre.

It seems that I can either get pretty pictures with names but no guidance on quality, or qualitative data with with minimized pictures and no names. This may be an area where the artist name takes priority over what the cover looks like or how readers rate the album.

As to brother st's complaint, my guess is that he's interested in Ambient Techno and lacks the knowledge of where to find the listings for same. The site doesn't do a good job at presenting the different styles of music. For starters, when selecting a specific genre you've committed to that Overview idea that clutters the page and relegates significant information to the bottom.
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Hi Andy,
We've tried to provide a couple of different views for looking at this information, and sometimes things can get missed.

You are pointing out a bug that needs to be fixed.

You can see that the title of that column even says "Album/Artist" but in fact we are only showing the Album title (accidentally omitting the Artist name).



We'll get that fixed up.
Thanks.
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In the interim, you can use our hover-over tooltip to quickly see the artist's name for any album in that list:

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Thanks, but I've turned off all of that frippery. Too distracting. The boxes block out too much data and often won't go away without refreshing. I'll wait until you fix the bug.

I'm happy with your choices for the various genres, and I think that the star ratings adequately express what your 1st, 2nd, 3rd tier listings once did. I don't like the hoops I have to jump through to get that data but I'm well versed in many types of music and don't use that feature often enough to make it a major campaign.

Based on the traffic here vs. the last redesign, I think this one is better received. Maybe the flood comes when you put it into production. I strongly dislike the Overview concept but there hasn't been a consensus against that yet.
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Please don't resort to using automated classification schemes or crowdsourced stuff like lastfm. The beauty of allmusic.com is its authoritative, encyclopedic content. As soon as you resort to using popularity lists etc. rather than the input of reviewers with a lifetime's knowledge and passion for music you'll destroy the very fabric that's made allmusic.com what it is today.
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The bug with not displaying the artist names in List view has been fixed:



Thanks for your patience,
Zac
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Awesome! I may not agree with all of your stylists but the mechanics are top shelf.