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I would love to see user reviews and rates for each album. As a complement of the editor rating and review.
As in many websites (Amazon, IMDB, filmaffinity...) it gives you a more comprehensive view of each record.
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I agree, the AllMusic editorial rating is valuable and one of the main reasons I use AllMusic, however it would be lovely to have it supplemented with a user-rating and perhaps even a meta-critic rating, where the reviews from other websites are averaged out to give an overall rating for critics in general. See www.metacritic.com/albums
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I think it's a good idea a meta-critic rating (besides the fact that exists the metacritic website)
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Thanks @mortonoquilo the trouble with metacritic.com is the very limited database. It would be good to have all these features on one website so you don't need to visit a number of sites to get a balanced view and album information.
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I believe giving user rating statistics is a good idea, it will provide a truer angle to the overall review. More power to music. Yes I support this.
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Absolutely agreed. It's like the critics won't hear the common people's opinions of the music -- because, how dare we, we may challenge their opinions. But isn't this something that music appreciators all like -- a discussion?
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Zac, you can merge this idea with https://getsatisfaction.com/allmusic/...
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Allowing for user ratings is definitely planned.
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that's great to hear
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It is indeed!
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Zac, Gary's reply below is right. Few users truly understand AMG's rating standard, so most user ratings will tend to be overly weighed toward the extremes like https://getsatisfaction.com/allmusic/...
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I actually really don't want user ratings. Literally every single site has them...why do we need yet ANOTHER place to get a random smattering of people yelling at things? If I want customer reviews, I can go to every other site.
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"Ratings" are planned (according to Zac) no mention of user reviews since the original post. My understanding is that it would simply be another line of stars under the critics rating to give a more balanced view. No one yelling, I agree that would be annoying.

Zac are you able to clarify this?
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Yep.

Based on conversations with users, many people like to see a balance of the editorial/professional rating and what users think. Our editors may think that Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" is a 1-star unsufferable nightmare, but users and fans of noise-rock and experimental music might think it is a landmark genius 5-star album.

Allowing that balance can allow users to compare the expert's opinion with the fan's opinion and make their decisions accordingly.
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Yeah. I mean I see why the feature is popular--who doesn't like to hear themselves talk?--but I think, at the very least, it can work differently than a simple "let people give albums star ratings." As, say, the iTunes store shows, people tend to give things 1 star or 5 stars to try to push their opinion in one direction, because, well, what do they care?

What may make more sense if you are going to do this type of thing is something like Rotten Tomatoes does with Facebook implementation. If you go to a movie on Rotten Tomatoes, it will show all the ratings your friends have given the same movie, and then you can click on that person's user name to see what else they have rated. This also holds them a little accountable (since people see what they rate) so people are less likely to give extreme ratings arbitrarily.

I'm not saying you necessarily have to do implement Facebook connectivity. (I imagine that's a whole other thing.) But maybe at least make it so you have to sign in before giving something a rating. Then, for instance, I can check someone's user page, and if I see they like the same sorts of music based on the ratings, I can choose to follow that person. And based on what ratings the person awards different records, I get recommendations from somebody with similar music tastes. No comments or social networking, by the way, just star ratings.

This could easily be connected to the notion of listing your CD collection on allmusic, which I saw someone else suggest.
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Yes, I had assumed (below) that any sort of user rating/review would require login and thus accountability and positive aspects of community (what else do they like, I own this, etc) although hopefully avoiding/minimising the whole "look at me!, look at me! aren't I great" thing of facebook, et al.
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User ratings by themselves are fairly worthless because they are selective. People will, generally, only rate albums they like or, at the very least, only rate albums by artists they like.

So, on the whole, these things are positive and predominantly mainstream.

The big challenge in this area is for people to identify the opinions of people they trust and follow their other recommendations. These, rather than any other tenuous linkage, would be a good basis for "if you liked this, you might like this" (Lets be honest, the current "Similar Albums" section is at best amusing in its inappropriateness).

User reviews are a whole different beast. If you can support the data requirements for a lot of inane shite, then consider implementing it but _please_ include a "how useful was this review" feature. Again, such a feature would only work if it was widely adopted and it would be another vehicle for tracking "people whose opinions I trust" and thus recommendations, etc.

You'd want to take a long hard look at Amazon first and consider whether it [a] works or [b] is what you want the site to become.
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I expect the community/user star rating will end up being fairly useless. That being said, I would very much love this feature.
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I love the new design, I've given high praise before but I have an idea now. How about user reviews an/or comments on albums. It should be highly edited and moderated to make sure only relevant, useful, and insightful reviews and comments are shown but I think it would be great to show another point of view rather than that of the reviewers'.

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User reviews and/or comments.
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a good idea would be to a section after the professional review of any album to have section that opens up to a where fans could pick their favorite, or best songs on the album. not a review, but just so anyone can see what the reviewer thinks and what fans of the band think. kind of a song by song 1-100% rating system.

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Yeah this makes sense. We don't need loads of user reviews--that's not what this site is about. But I can see the use in people picking their favorite songs because it helps users see what songs are most popular and what people should start with.
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I think that you should have the same system as rottentomatoes.com - but with music instead of movies, i.e. we could rate the records ourselves (from 0,5 to 5 stars) and it would show up on our facebook profiles. That way we can also keep track of the records we've listened to, and perhaps have a "want to listen to" list, just like the "want to see" list on rottentomatoes, which would help us remember what records we want to listen to. It really is an awesome system and I would very much like to see it. They have something like that on "rateyourmusic" or something, but this website is far better.

Cheers

Raphael Gimenes

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User ratings (just like Rottentomatoes!).
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Room for user-generated content, at least until there's something non user-generated for a certain artist.

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User-generated content.
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It would be great if users could rate albums, just like users rate movies on imdb.com. That way, we'd get more than just one AllMusic critic's opinion about a record. Is this possible? If not, why not?

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Let visitors rate the albums too..
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You should add forums to the discographies so people can add info and tell what they think. For example it's obvious that Richie Unterberger hates far-out psychedelic stuff, and prefers down to earth rock'n'roll. Many of my favorite psych albums are given 1 or 2 stars... As a mainstream example, how can you give The Doors' Strange Days 3.5 stars while you give Full Circle 4 (an 70's album without Jim Morrison)? I mean, what are you smoking? In a way it works anyway: if Unterberger gives a psych album 1 star, that's probably the one you should try to get, because it's probably the best. If you had a forum you would give the readers a chance to have other opinions, I mean, who what's to read reviews of West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band's albums by a Creedence Clearwater Revival fan?

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Maybe if we were given the ability to Comment under an album or an artist ? or both ??? or give our ratings and stuff like that! it would be nice :)

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Ability to comment and share our opinions above an album or on artists' page

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It would be great to have forums or discussion boards for people to post their own opinions about ALBUMS and discuss them, so we can read what others think and not just the critic's review. And people should also be able to give their own rating of an album (then you can show the Editor Rating and the People's Rating). IMDB has something like this and its great

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User rating and reviews for albums (discussion boards).
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A gazillion people have suggested this, and they keep saying they will do it...that was many many months ago and it still hasn't been implemented. Hmmmm, I wonder how much longer they will take.
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Jaymzz,
User generated content, user ratings and other ideas are absolutely still on AllMusic's horizon, but they had to be put on the back burner for the past six weeks while the dev team built new sister site celebified.com from the ground up. Now that Celebified has launched (go take a look!), we're planning the next phase of cool things for AllMusic and going to work on it.
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referencing: http://www.celebified.com/celebs - someone needs to go through and add capital letters to some of the names, example; demi lovato, mike sorrentino, nicole polizzi, one direction, seth rogen, teresa giudice, zach galifianakis
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Hi Brad,
While our web folks built Celebified, it's our colleagues at SideReel who are supplying the content, so your catch is on the way to them.

Glad you're visiting Celebified! Tell your friends!
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I told my friends there were no caps on some of the names on Celebified.com, and they were appalled!
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Hi Brad,
Thanks. The folks who handle the day-to-day updates on Celebified have been notified of the tags issue.
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I think it would be a good idea to allow the public to weigh in on album ratings, whereas now only the editors rate them. I've noticed that there is a lot of inconsistency where ratings are concerned. Sometimes a reviewer will bestow accolades such as, "this is the album by which all future works by this artist will be judged," only to have it rated 4 stars (when previous works have up to 5 stars). And, so on. Overall, I very much appreciate the reviews, but I think it is a daunting job to have to rank all works by all artists with the size of your reviewer staff. And, I'd like to express my opinion on the subject, sometimes.

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This site so much needs reader/user reviews or comments to counter balance the often sole critic's review that functions as the site's sole description of an artist, album or song. While sometimes the single reviews reflect that they are also serving as a description, but so often they are so ridiculously personal, reflecting a single person's taste to a point bordering on being simply asinine.

Simply put - in this huge encyclopedia of music, hundreds, if not thousands of artists deserve far, far better. And short of reeling in the extremity of the review/descriptions - allowing space for more opinions would at least help provide a bit of balance.

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Either provide space for user reviews or seriously reel in the often extremely personal review offered by your single "expert"..
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The idea Is that the user send a review about the album, to work as a kind of alternative review (second review), to the other readers, but with the control of the site administrators.

Sorry for bad english.

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pls let us write user reviews, even if limited to 1000 characters

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Allmusic does not not need user reviews, there are already plenty of websites that offer that. I find the ratings to be annoying anyways, you can tell that people are already trolling, like on Justin Bieber's albums, I seriously doubt that 90% of the people who rated his discograpghy have even heard it.
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Just like you have user ratings, you should allow user reviews and not just critics' reviews.
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I'm seeing more entries that don't have proper reviews, how about starting user submitted reviews?.


So AllMusic, I take it that you think that this paragraph about the Mountain "Live the Road Goes on Forever" album is good enough to be called a review?

"Review by James Chrispell
Live performances were where Mountain always shone, and this document of some of their concert fare shows how they took a rather ordinary song and expanded it with lots of jamming and improvising. The side-long (on vinyl) "Nantucket Sleighride" does show signs of the excess that would plague the band for the rest of its career. A fair example of Mountain live."

I would expect more from AllMusic. A proper review, more than one paragraph that largely dismisses the LP, is in order. Better yet, how about you start letting users submit their own reviews of albums and have them posted on the page for that release, much like ProgArchives. So who's with me? Get rid of the "reviewers" that are supposed to be professionals, and start letting the music fans who own and listen to these albums review them.